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Post by werrington on Dec 30, 2016 17:57:43 GMT
Groundhog Day ..but bizarrely because the thread has been resurrected the same things are being discussed when they've already been discussed on it already
Nzonzi is up there alongside Pulls on here
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Post by sportsman on Dec 30, 2016 18:05:16 GMT
Bloody shit bin. Not another spliff head discussion. I've brought his Prem stats up many a time. They all showed he was bang on average in the premier league, way down on a lot of midfielders.
Not doing all that again.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 30, 2016 18:09:15 GMT
Bloody shit bin. Not another spliff head discussion. I've brought his Prem stats up many a time. They all showed he was bang on average in the premier league, way down on a lot of midfielders. Not doing all that again. Stats do not tell the whole story. His last season for us, he was simply a cracking player and now he is Sevilla's best player by along way according to their own fans and given how good they are, is no mean feat Why cant some people just acknowledge we had a superb player who has gone to get better?
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Post by nutterpotter on Dec 30, 2016 18:11:09 GMT
Bloody shit bin. Not another spliff head discussion. I've brought his Prem stats up many a time. They all showed he was bang on average in the premier league, way down on a lot of midfielders. Not doing all that again. The lad is running the show for a one of the best teams in Europe- a team that has won the Europa League twice in a row and is currently third in La Liga.
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Post by mattador78 on Dec 30, 2016 18:16:47 GMT
Player leaves club plays better for new club value goes up never heard of that before.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 30, 2016 18:22:51 GMT
Bloody shit bin. Not another spliff head discussion. I've brought his Prem stats up many a time. They all showed he was bang on average in the premier league, way down on a lot of midfielders. Not doing all that again. Stats do not tell the whole story. His last season for us, he was simply a cracking player and now he is Sevilla's best player by along way according to their own fans and given how good they are, is no mean feat Why cant some people just acknowledge we had a superb player who has gone to get better? Last season, or last 6 months? I remember not that long before he left that he was splitting fans opinion. A home game I think against sunderland and he found himself in the opposition half and through on goal, and he stopped and turned back! The ground went mad, I certainly did. Him and whelan were the masters of the sideways and backwards pass. After that he did kick on for the last few months and finished string, but best outfield player in last 30 years is a disgraceful comment.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 30, 2016 18:29:55 GMT
Stats do not tell the whole story. His last season for us, he was simply a cracking player and now he is Sevilla's best player by along way according to their own fans and given how good they are, is no mean feat Why cant some people just acknowledge we had a superb player who has gone to get better? Last season, or last 6 months? I remember not that long before he left that he was splitting fans opinion. A home game I think against sunderland and he found himself in the opposition half and through on goal, and he stopped and turned back! The ground went mad, I certainly did. Him and whelan were the masters of the sideways and backwards pass. After that he did kick on for the last few months and finished string, but best outfield player in last 30 years is a disgraceful comment. I never said best in last 30 years He may have split opinions, but just like one Mr Fuller, I loved watching him since he joined us and thought he was the stand out player for Blackburn. I thought he was class and he has gone on to prove it. You thought different - that is football fella
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 18:43:08 GMT
Player leaves club plays better for new club value goes up never heard of that before. Yep, this
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Post by sportsman on Dec 30, 2016 19:00:55 GMT
Last season, or last 6 months? I remember not that long before he left that he was splitting fans opinion. A home game I think against sunderland and he found himself in the opposition half and through on goal, and he stopped and turned back! The ground went mad, I certainly did. Him and whelan were the masters of the sideways and backwards pass. After that he did kick on for the last few months and finished string, but best outfield player in last 30 years is a disgraceful comment. I never said best in last 30 years He may have split opinions, but just like one Mr Fuller, I loved watching him since he joined us and thought he was the stand out player for Blackburn. I thought he was class and he has gone on to prove it. You thought different - that is football fella Fair enough
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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 30, 2016 19:20:56 GMT
I never said best in last 30 years He may have split opinions, but just like one Mr Fuller, I loved watching him since he joined us and thought he was the stand out player for Blackburn. I thought he was class and he has gone on to prove it. You thought different - that is football fella Fair enough Happy New Year fella
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 30, 2016 19:35:45 GMT
Haha, after spending how much in trying to do so? We also had the MVG balls up to factor into the cost of replacing him which Hughes has come nowhere near.
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Post by Gods on Dec 30, 2016 19:48:00 GMT
I loved the Zonz he was an absolute collossus for us and he became the beating heart behind the Hughes revolution.
Frankly we look a little lost without the great man.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Dec 30, 2016 19:50:35 GMT
Player leaves club plays better for new club value goes up never heard of that before. 100% mate...Presumably Southampton have similar threads where they slag off their own transfer team for only getting 12m from Spurs for Bale. Fair play to Zonz and all that but just because he's far better now...for an entirely different team with far better players says nothing about us or our transfer team whatsoever. It just proves the power the players hold now. All these idiots who complain about the fee we got for a player with fuck all left on his contract because HE refused to extend and had put in 3 separate transfer requests are simply spunk bubbles who know fuck all about how football (or any business for that matter) works
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 30, 2016 20:00:57 GMT
Bloody shit bin. Not another spliff head discussion. I've brought his Prem stats up many a time. They all showed he was bang on average in the premier league, way down on a lot of midfielders. Not doing all that again. Bang average? Behave. You can provide all the stats you like mate, but you'll never convince me that N'Zonzi isn't head and shoulders above anyone we've had in the Stoke midfield in the last 30 odd years. It's just a shame he didn't want a future at the club because that last season with us, he was absolutely immense. We've never really fully recovered since he left, and that's not really a knock against Hughes. Replacing that kind of talent at a club like Stoke is no easy task.
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Post by crownmeking on Dec 30, 2016 20:01:33 GMT
Player leaves club plays better for new club value goes up never heard of that before. 100% mate...Presumably Southampton have similar threads where they slag off their own transfer team for only getting 12m from Spurs for Bale. Fair play to Zonz and all that but just because he's far better now...for an entirely different team with far better players says nothing about us or our transfer team whatsoever. It just proves the power the players hold now. All these idiots who complain about the fee we got for a player with fuck all left on his contract because HE refused to extend and had put in 3 separate transfer requests are simply spunk bubbles who know fuck all about how football (or any business for that matter) works bang on mate.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 30, 2016 20:05:51 GMT
Bloody shit bin. Not another spliff head discussion. I've brought his Prem stats up many a time. They all showed he was bang on average in the premier league, way down on a lot of midfielders. Not doing all that again. Bang average? Behave. You can provide all the stats you like mate, but you'll never convince me that N'Zonzi isn't head and shoulders above anyone we've had in the Stoke midfield in the last 30 odd years. It's just a shame he didn't want a future at the club because that last season with us, he was absolutely immense. We've never really fully recovered since he left, and that's not really a knock against Hughes. Replacing that kind of talent at a club like Stoke is no easy task. What a load of bollocks. Even his biggest fans have admitted it was only the twelve months, I say last 6 months, and if you're using that to say the best outfield player in 30 years you're off your head and want sectioning.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 30, 2016 20:15:16 GMT
Player leaves club plays better for new club value goes up never heard of that before. 100% mate...Presumably Southampton have similar threads where they slag off their own transfer team for only getting 12m from Spurs for Bale. Fair play to Zonz and all that but just because he's far better now...for an entirely different team with far better players says nothing about us or our transfer team whatsoever. It just proves the power the players hold now. All these idiots who complain about the fee we got for a player with fuck all left on his contract because HE refused to extend and had put in 3 separate transfer requests are simply spunk bubbles who know fuck all about how football (or any business for that matter) works He did actually have 12 months left on his contract with us !!!, we jumped the gun and sold as soon as a firm offer was tabled. Even disinterested could he have been any worse than the players bought in to supposedly replace him, Imbula coat 4.5 times more than Zonz he is about an eight of the player if that.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 30, 2016 20:16:45 GMT
Bang average? Behave. You can provide all the stats you like mate, but you'll never convince me that N'Zonzi isn't head and shoulders above anyone we've had in the Stoke midfield in the last 30 odd years. It's just a shame he didn't want a future at the club because that last season with us, he was absolutely immense. We've never really fully recovered since he left, and that's not really a knock against Hughes. Replacing that kind of talent at a club like Stoke is no easy task. What a load of bollocks. Even his biggest fans have admitted it was only the twelve months, I say last 6 months, and if you're using that to say the best outfield player in 30 years you're off your head and want sectioning. If he was as you have stated average why has Hughes been unable to replace him despite having 3 transfer windows to do so ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 30, 2016 20:18:58 GMT
Bang average? Behave. You can provide all the stats you like mate, but you'll never convince me that N'Zonzi isn't head and shoulders above anyone we've had in the Stoke midfield in the last 30 odd years. It's just a shame he didn't want a future at the club because that last season with us, he was absolutely immense. We've never really fully recovered since he left, and that's not really a knock against Hughes. Replacing that kind of talent at a club like Stoke is no easy task. What a load of bollocks. Even his biggest fans have admitted it was only the twelve months, I say last 6 months, and if you're using that to say the best outfield player in 30 years you're off your head and want sectioning. That's crap. He was a class above anything even in TPs days (check the stats). He's the best outfield player I've watched in my lifetime easily. He's just carried on that form that he showed for us. Awesome player and the biggest reason imo Hughes has struggled. He needs someone with his calmness on the ball. I just hope we put a sell on in. Now that we can call the transfer team cunts if they didn't!
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Post by sportsman on Dec 30, 2016 20:23:27 GMT
What a load of bollocks. Even his biggest fans have admitted it was only the twelve months, I say last 6 months, and if you're using that to say the best outfield player in 30 years you're off your head and want sectioning. That's crap. He was a class above anything even in TPs days (check the stats). He's the best outfield player I've watched in my lifetime easily. He's just carried on that form that he showed for us. Awesome player and the biggest reason imo Hughes has struggled. He needs someone with his calmness on the ball. I just hope we put a sell on in. Now that we can call the transfer team cunts if they didn't! Wow! That's embarrassing to admit that. Best outfield player you've watched in your lifetime! Even with bang average premier league stats to back it up? On that note your honour, I have no further questions.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 30, 2016 20:25:40 GMT
What a load of bollocks. Even his biggest fans have admitted it was only the twelve months, I say last 6 months, and if you're using that to say the best outfield player in 30 years you're off your head and want sectioning. That's crap. He was a class above anything even in TPs days (check the stats). He's the best outfield player I've watched in my lifetime easily. He's just carried on that form that he showed for us. Awesome player and the biggest reason imo Hughes has struggled. He needs someone with his calmness on the ball. I just hope we put a sell on in. Now that we can call the transfer team cunts if they didn't!
When I saw this thread back at the top of the board, I thought, I bet you a pound to a penny that sportsman is on it, claiming N'Zonzi was nowhere near as good as he actually was!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 30, 2016 20:26:51 GMT
That's crap. He was a class above anything even in TPs days (check the stats). He's the best outfield player I've watched in my lifetime easily. He's just carried on that form that he showed for us. Awesome player and the biggest reason imo Hughes has struggled. He needs someone with his calmness on the ball. I just hope we put a sell on in. Now that we can call the transfer team cunts if they didn't! Wow! That's embarrassing to admit that. Best outfield player you've watched in your lifetime! Even with bang average premier league stats to back it up? On that note your honour, I have no further questions. Go on then who's been better? He's the best footballer we've had in the Premier League. Therefore he's the best footballer we've had in 30 years. What's embarrassing is this little caper you're up to as the player you dismissed has moved on and is fast becoming one of the hottest properties in European football. It's pretty amusing! I'm just glad he's doing well and gutted we still haven't got him or anyone close to him.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 30, 2016 20:31:02 GMT
Wow! That's embarrassing to admit that. Best outfield player you've watched in your lifetime! Even with bang average premier league stats to back it up? On that note your honour, I have no further questions. Go on then who's been better? He's the best footballer we've had in the Premier League. Therefore he's the best footballer we've had in 30 years. What's embarrassing is this little caper you're up to as the player you dismissed has moved on and is fast becoming one of the hottest properties in European football. It's pretty amusing! I'm just glad he's doing well and gutted we still haven't got him or anyone close to him. Like I said, if and when he signs for a Chelsea or man city, and he then tears the Prem a new one, then I'll believe it. Knowing nzonzi, China is my bet.
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Post by Davef on Dec 30, 2016 20:31:13 GMT
What a load of bollocks. Even his biggest fans have admitted it was only the twelve months, I say last 6 months, and if you're using that to say the best outfield player in 30 years you're off your head and want sectioning. That's crap. He was a class above anything even in TPs days (check the stats). He's the best outfield player I've watched in my lifetime easily. He's just carried on that form that he showed for us. Awesome player and the biggest reason imo Hughes has struggled. He needs someone with his calmness on the ball. I just hope we put a sell on in. Now that we can call the transfer team cunts if they didn't! If you want to call current players or employees of SCFC a cunt then set up your own message board. You're not doing it on ours.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 30, 2016 20:31:53 GMT
Bang average? Behave. You can provide all the stats you like mate, but you'll never convince me that N'Zonzi isn't head and shoulders above anyone we've had in the Stoke midfield in the last 30 odd years. It's just a shame he didn't want a future at the club because that last season with us, he was absolutely immense. We've never really fully recovered since he left, and that's not really a knock against Hughes. Replacing that kind of talent at a club like Stoke is no easy task. What a load of bollocks. Even his biggest fans have admitted it was only the twelve months, I say last 6 months, and if you're using that to say the best outfield player in 30 years you're off your head and want sectioning.
No, actually you spent his whole time here arguing with people who could see he was the dogs bollocks and you just didn't get it but then finally you had to concede because he was playing at a totally different level.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 30, 2016 20:34:02 GMT
That's crap. He was a class above anything even in TPs days (check the stats). He's the best outfield player I've watched in my lifetime easily. He's just carried on that form that he showed for us. Awesome player and the biggest reason imo Hughes has struggled. He needs someone with his calmness on the ball. I just hope we put a sell on in. Now that we can call the transfer team cunts if they didn't!
When I saw this thread back at the top of the board, I thought, I bet you a pound to a penny that sportsman is on it, claiming N'Zonzi was nowhere near as good as he actually was!
The stats back up what I thought of him other than the last 6 months. You think he was good before that? He never even got a mention in previews before games live on sky. He was no way a superstar player for us you make him out to be.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 30, 2016 20:38:05 GMT
What a load of bollocks. Even his biggest fans have admitted it was only the twelve months, I say last 6 months, and if you're using that to say the best outfield player in 30 years you're off your head and want sectioning.
No, actually you spent his whole time here arguing with people who could see he was the dogs bollocks and you just didn't get it but then finally you had to concede because he was playing at a totally different level.
What the hell are you on about man? I said he was bang average and frustrating passing sideways and backwards until the last 6 months, when he actually started to dictate a game. What part of that makes me wrong and finally concede? I'm stating what I saw.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 30, 2016 20:41:11 GMT
When I saw this thread back at the top of the board, I thought, I bet you a pound to a penny that sportsman is on it, claiming N'Zonzi was nowhere near as good as he actually was!
The stats back up what I thought of him other than the last 6 months. You think he was good before that? He never even got a mention in previews before games live on sky. He was no way a superstar player for us you make him out to be.
I was repeatedly banging on about him for 18 months before we signed him, I don't need mentions on Sky of a player to help me work out if he's any good or not.
He was excellent for us and was paramount to us playing the way Hughes wanted the team to play, we have completely struggled to replace him.
There was bugger all Hughes could have done to have kept him but if he could have done, there's no doubt he would have done so.
I can't think of a better midfielder at Stoke in the last thirty years, which ones are you thinking of exactly?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 30, 2016 20:41:15 GMT
I thought n,zonzi was good in his first season with us, excellent in his second season and quite superb in his 3rd season.
He was a super player who wouldn't have looked out of place in any top side in England. It was only because he played for us that his outstanding ability was largely overlooked.
Easily one of the best players we've had at stoke in my lifetime.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 30, 2016 20:46:11 GMT
I'm amazed people are so praising of him. I respect people views even if I do think they're bollocks, and I'll leave it at that, other than I await the big Prem move for him and watch him rip the Prem to bits.
I won't convince you, you won't convince me. Bottom line is, a player said to be the best in 30 years splits opinion between fans. Figure that out.
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