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Post by milky on Dec 3, 2016 10:21:15 GMT
No problem. I'll leave you to continue to belittle and dismiss every victory/decent run we go on and concentrate on the negative stuff. We'll we are currently on a run of ONE game, due to our woeful capitulation against Bournemouth. Just think how good things would be looking if the players had bothered to turn up for that match. Still, that's better than the run we went on at the start of the season. Clearly you have real problems grasping things so I'll try and keep it nice and simple. Last 8 games Won 4 Drew 3 lost 1.
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Post by ryan4england on Dec 3, 2016 10:29:53 GMT
One would expect a tonking tiday, afterall a far inferior WBA put them to the sword playing pulisball so it should be childs play for mark & his team
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Post by butlerstbob on Dec 3, 2016 10:48:49 GMT
No problem. I'll leave you to continue to belittle and dismiss every victory/decent run we go on and concentrate on the negative stuff. We'll we are currently on a run of ONE game, due to our woeful capitulation against Bournemouth. Just think how good things would be looking if the players had bothered to turn up for that match. Still, that's better than the run we went on at the start of the season. What a sad sorry life you must lead if your posts reflect your outlook on life! Capitulation against Bournemouth wasn't what I witnessed, I saw a bunch of cheating diving wankers pinch the points against a side that should have scored 4 but definitely not a capitulation, and to sum our current form as a run of one game! one game fucking hell pal you really do need help, we have DDWWWDLW so just for your tiny mind that's 4 wins 3 draw and 1 loss, shit now I say it like that it does look bad eh!
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Post by milky on Dec 3, 2016 11:08:53 GMT
One would expect a tonking tiday, afterall a far inferior WBA put them to the sword playing pulisball so it should be childs play for mark & his team That will be the same West Brom who couldn't win at Hull last week ?
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 3, 2016 11:09:10 GMT
One would expect a tonking tiday, afterall a far inferior WBA put them to the sword playing pulisball so it should be childs play for mark & his team Now, now, behave yourself. Or are you suggesting we play Crouch up front and keep lobbing the ball to him? There are some unfortunate posters on here though, who think it's easy to go and win a football match and will be in an apoplectic fit if Burnley park the bus and we fail to break them down.
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Post by marwood on Dec 3, 2016 11:11:22 GMT
Thread really should anchored and these debates moved to different thread with new title. Embarrasing
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Post by milky on Dec 3, 2016 11:11:59 GMT
We'll we are currently on a run of ONE game, due to our woeful capitulation against Bournemouth. Just think how good things would be looking if the players had bothered to turn up for that match. Still, that's better than the run we went on at the start of the season. What a sad sorry life you must lead if your posts reflect your outlook on life! Capitulation against Bournemouth wasn't what I witnessed, I saw a bunch of cheating diving wankers pinch the points against a side that should have scored 4 but definitely not a capitulation, and to sum our current form as a run of one game! one game fucking hell pal you really do need help, we have DDWWWDLW so just for your tiny mind that's 4 wins 3 draw and 1 loss, shit now I say it like that it does look bad eh!
You're wasting your time mate.. He backed himself so far into a corner 2 months ago (this seasons Villa)he has to desperately cling to any negatives to try and justify himself now we are on a decent run.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 3, 2016 11:18:09 GMT
Yes please.
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Post by butlerstbob on Dec 3, 2016 11:18:44 GMT
It does seem like we are knocking on fog Milky, whenever people post facts he doesn't reply! strange that!!
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Post by blackpoolred on Dec 3, 2016 11:53:58 GMT
Some of you think that MH isn't planning for next season or the one after, right now. Or that he doesn't have a plan to change our playing style, address weaknesses, or replacement plan for current players. You have a very low opinion of the man. He shouldn't have to cater to such ignorance, but I suppose that goes with the job. Thicko football fans and FM know it alls.... Generally speaking my opinion of the man for his 1st 2 years here were very high. Since the window where we sold Huth, Begovic, Nzonzi etc I have been struggling with what his plans are and as a result my opinions of him have changed a little and maybe a bit more toward the negative side these days. I dont see that as ignorance, just an opinion. At the moment we have 1 full time centre half at the club and he is injury prone. As result of that today we have to pitch Muniesa up against Vokes. I think if you were to ask Hughes his honest opinion then his 5ft 10(6 stone when wet) Spaniard would be an absolute last resort in that position - for me never a premiership centre half. We find ourselves in that position because Hughes has now sold 3 centre halves and not replaced a single 1 of them - I still find it totally baffling if I am honest and I dont think I am alone. That said we played a superb controlling game of footie last week of which Hughes must get massive praise for and of course Muni was a part of. However at home I think without Whelan/Cam partnership in front of the back four and our captain at the back we are going to struggle to be competitive and Muni may be a little more exposed also. The whole of the back 7 from keeper to the holding midfielders are positions that really need improving on and where the squad in general is threadbare. Do think Muni(like Cam) is somebody who could play in the holding position. What are your thoughts on Muni as a C/H and the current depth of the squad?
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Post by skip on Dec 3, 2016 12:15:14 GMT
The excuses for our deplorably shit start this year do make me larf. Why can't we just accept we were utter Shite, and stop making excuses. I'm not sure people are making excuses, rather, trying to understand the reasons why we had such a poor start.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 3, 2016 12:17:40 GMT
The way expectations have changed since May 2013 never ceases to amaze me.
That and how thick as shit some of our "support" is.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 3, 2016 12:20:48 GMT
The way expectations have changed since May 2013 never ceases to amaze me. That and how thick as shit some of our "support" is. Benitez in. It is amusing re the change in expectation. But mine has only changed with where we've been. TP not finishing top 10 will always be a blemish on his copy book with us. Hughes not getting to Europe will be if he doesn't manage it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 3, 2016 12:21:55 GMT
The excuses for our deplorably shit start this year do make me larf. Why can't we just accept we were utter Shite, and stop making excuses. I'm not sure people are making excuses, rather, trying to understand the reasons why we had such a poor start. It's how Hughes works. It's that simple isn't it?
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Post by milky on Dec 3, 2016 12:29:51 GMT
I'm not sure people are making excuses, rather, trying to understand the reasons why we had such a poor start. It's how Hughes works. It's that simple isn't it? Yes it is that simple. Try telling that to a few on here though...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 3, 2016 12:36:59 GMT
It's how Hughes works. It's that simple isn't it? Yes it is that simple. Try telling that to a few on here though... I think it's shit and it's part of the reason I want him sacked owd!
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Post by milky on Dec 3, 2016 12:46:18 GMT
Yes it is that simple. Try telling that to a few on here though... I think it's shit and it's part of the reason I want him sacked owd! That's fair enough,you're entitled to your opinion and at least you're consistent and stick by your guns. I don't like the poor starts same as anyone but I'll always judge him on our final position 😊
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 3, 2016 12:48:13 GMT
I think it's shit and it's part of the reason I want him sacked owd! That's fair enough,you're entitled to your opinion and at least you're consistent and stick by your guns. I don't like the poor starts same as anyone but I'll always judge him on our final position 😊 But it could be so much better if he didn't just treat those games as an extended pre season. TP was rightly bashed for his sides going in holiday from April. This is nothing different. It's a failure in what he's doing as it limits what we can do.
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Post by milky on Dec 3, 2016 12:52:14 GMT
That's fair enough,you're entitled to your opinion and at least you're consistent and stick by your guns. I don't like the poor starts same as anyone but I'll always judge him on our final position 😊 But it could be so much better if he didn't just treat those games as an extended pre season. TP was rightly bashed for his sides going in holiday from April. This is nothing different. It's a failure in what he's doing as it limits what we can do. As far as I'm aware it's something he has done all his career. I'm not expecting it to change while he is at the helm...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 3, 2016 12:53:56 GMT
But it could be so much better if he didn't just treat those games as an extended pre season. TP was rightly bashed for his sides going in holiday from April. This is nothing different. It's a failure in what he's doing as it limits what we can do. As far as I'm aware it's something he has done all his career. I'm not expecting it to change while he is at the helm... It is and its wank and it makes no sense to stick to it.
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Post by milky on Dec 3, 2016 12:58:19 GMT
As far as I'm aware it's something he has done all his career. I'm not expecting it to change while he is at the helm... It is and its wank and it makes no sense to stick to it. I'm guessing he'd use his overall record as a premiership manager to defend his ways 😊
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 3, 2016 12:59:51 GMT
It is and its wank and it makes no sense to stick to it. I'm guessing he'd use his overall record as a premiership manager to defend his ways 😊 He would and I'd argue back that if you tried in those first games you'd be higher in the league. It's a failure of his methods.
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Post by milky on Dec 3, 2016 13:05:51 GMT
I'm guessing he'd use his overall record as a premiership manager to defend his ways 😊 He would and I'd argue back that if you tried in those first games you'd be higher in the league. It's a failure of his methods. If only it were that black and white. Having played a lot of his career under Ferguson I'm guessing he has taken on board a lot of his methods..including pre season preparation maybe ??
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Post by enuntio on Dec 3, 2016 13:06:32 GMT
There is a difficult bunch of games coming up. Hughes has a perfect opportunity to show his managerial mettle
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 3, 2016 13:07:55 GMT
Bayern, Sorry if this has already been asked, but just out of interest who would you want as manager if/when Hughes leaves ? No idea. Sean Dyche would be on the list though. I just don't get what Hughes is trying to do. We don't seem to have a plan or way of playing and just seem to wing it. The striker situation in his time shows that nicely. It's all as hoc with little purpose. We could be so much better with the attackers we have.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 3, 2016 13:08:52 GMT
He would and I'd argue back that if you tried in those first games you'd be higher in the league. It's a failure of his methods. If only it were that black and white. Having played a lot of his career under Ferguson I'm guessing he has taken on board a lot of his methods..including pre season preparation maybe ?? And it fails every time we start slowly. He needs to reassess it because if he's happy with how we start then he has zero ambition.
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Post by milky on Dec 3, 2016 13:25:53 GMT
If only it were that black and white. Having played a lot of his career under Ferguson I'm guessing he has taken on board a lot of his methods..including pre season preparation maybe ?? And it fails every time we start slowly. He needs to reassess it because if he's happy with how we start then he has zero ambition. I'm just not convinced it's so black and white.That a good start will automatically mean a better season. So I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one..He knows more about football management than I do....and you !😆
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 3, 2016 13:28:13 GMT
And it fails every time we start slowly. He needs to reassess it because if he's happy with how we start then he has zero ambition. I'm just not convinced it's so black and white.That a good start will automatically mean a better season. So I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one..He knows more about football management than I do....and you !😆 But wasting 6 games isn't acceptable is it? He can't be happy with that?? There has to be some happy medium. And it's not like we stay fresh. We have so many muscle injuries and training injuries. They're not a coincidence.
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Post by milky on Dec 3, 2016 13:31:49 GMT
I'm just not convinced it's so black and white.That a good start will automatically mean a better season. So I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one..He knows more about football management than I do....and you !😆 But wasting 6 games isn't acceptable is it? He can't be happy with that?? There has to be some happy medium. And it's not like we stay fresh. We have so many muscle injuries and training injuries. They're not a coincidence. Is it reasonable to expect a club like Stoke to not have a dodgy spell of half a dozen games during a season? I'm not sure it's relevant whether it's at the start ,in the middle or at the end.All of our peers will have one !
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 3, 2016 13:36:58 GMT
But wasting 6 games isn't acceptable is it? He can't be happy with that?? There has to be some happy medium. And it's not like we stay fresh. We have so many muscle injuries and training injuries. They're not a coincidence. Is it reasonable to expect a club like Stoke to not have a dodgy spell of half a dozen games during a season? I'm not sure it's relevant whether it's at the start ,in the middle or at the end.All of our peers will have one ! Of course not but its part of the plan and that is unacceptable. We know it's going to happen and we do nothing to change that. That to me isn't acceptable and I don't get why anyone would find it so.
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