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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 23, 2016 21:55:06 GMT
No No No No No The only change should be Shaqiri in if fit. That should see our usual return of a single shot on target. I would actually find it massively more surprising if there wasn’t a change or two than if we went with an 11 that was a combination of the 12 that started the first two. The tactics need to change. We don't cross the ball in the league. I think they're told not to. That needs to change. Supply Diouf with crosses and he will flourish. We just don't. Imbula was mom in the last away game and people seem to be forgetting this. I'd drop Wolly. Hughes won't. He shouldn't start Crouch, terrible management. Walters was garbage vs Man City. Adam possibly but harsh on Imbula for me after Boro.
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 23, 2016 21:56:45 GMT
Strikers goals by Crouchie tonight. Cant see anyone else doing it
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 21:58:44 GMT
Look at it another way. If we didn't play tonight and turned up at Everton with that side would there be much to argue about? Muniesa for Pieters? I don't personally like him at left back but Pieters has been poor and it's universally been accepted as such. Cameron for Wollscheid? There'd be street parties for days! Adam for Imbula? He was slated after Saturday and rightly so. Adam can offer more defensively and offensively at times. Walters for Bojan out wide? When has Bojan ever been a wide man? The only contentious decision, ironically, would be Crouch. However, I could only see an argument for the False 9 given the team and manager's apparent lack of trust in Diouf. So going back to the original point, is it really THAT much of a daft suggestion? I think the Crouch one is because we aren't set up to play to a target man, period and regardless of what he did today. Are the other three daft individually? No not really but they would be decisions that would (and should) be made regardless of the game tonight (which wasn't ever going to tell us much). How did you think Muniesa played at left back tonight and did you see enough to think he would be better than Eric on Saturday? I think Erik needs a general kick up the backside to be totally frank, based on a longer period of time. I'd even take a risk on Taylor (at home to start with) just to freshen things up if needed. re. Crouch. I've made points previously about signing a target man type over a Berahino type, because I've always felt a target man in Hughes' team here has got the best out of our more creative players and given us a real out ball and focal point. Pelle would have been ideal had he not had a good Euro's!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 23, 2016 22:00:51 GMT
Crouch will start on Saturday.
Cameron will start as well.
Adam will be on the bench. He was very hit and miss tonight and he was blowing out of his arse at the end.
Walters will be on the bench. He was garbage tonight.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 23, 2016 22:02:10 GMT
Crouch will start on Saturday. Cameron will start as well. Adam will be on the bench. He was very hit and miss tonight and he was blowing out of his arse at the end. Walters will be on the bench. He was garbage tonight. If Crouch starts, Hughes is a bigger idiot than I'm starting to think he is.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Aug 23, 2016 22:02:46 GMT
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes recurring! Get out of that one bayern!!!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 23, 2016 22:04:57 GMT
I think the Crouch one is because we aren't set up to play to a target man, period and regardless of what he did today. Are the other three daft individually? No not really but they would be decisions that would (and should) be made regardless of the game tonight (which wasn't ever going to tell us much). How did you think Muniesa played at left back tonight and did you see enough to think he would be better than Eric on Saturday? I think Erik needs a general kick up the backside to be totally frank, based on a longer period of time. I'd even take a risk on Taylor (at home to start with) just to freshen things up if needed. re. Crouch. I've made points previously about signing a target man type over a Berahino type, because I've always felt a target man in Hughes' team here has got the best out of our more creative players and given us a real out ball and focal point. Pelle would have been ideal had he not had a good Euro's! I wouldn't argue with any of that mate but if Hughes starts Crouch in a league match on Saturday after spending the whole of the summer completely and utterly transfixed on getting Berahino as his main man up front, then it'll leave me seriously wondering what it is he's trying to achieve with his tactics?. EDIT: Yeah, pretty much what Bayern said whilst I was posting this.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 23, 2016 22:05:11 GMT
No No No No No The only change should be Shaqiri in if fit. That should see our usual return of a single shot on target. I would actually find it massively more surprising if there wasn’t a change or two than if we went with an 11 that was a combination of the 12 that started the first two. Me, too. I'm baffled that Adam can't get a start with the lack of chances being created. I'm tired of us trying to score the perfect goal; mix it up a bit!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 23, 2016 22:05:39 GMT
That's put Crouchie well and truly in the window as part of a £+ exchange deal though hasn't it ...... With Joselu seemingly trusted as much as Brian Little in a typists pool, that would be a big shout.
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 23, 2016 22:06:00 GMT
This this and this. Now is a time for rock solid man management that could really kick start our season. 4th division or not you need to be fair and even handed and reward the lads that played tonight and played well. We'd soon be coming down on them like a ton of bricks and be demanding the fringe lot to be 'fcuked off' had we lost. So what you are saying is we should be unchanged v Everton ? Jesus I'll take me calculator Thats not what I said though was it. the team is simply not scoring goals and our strikers have been average for a long time now. someone comes along, given a chance and has more than taken it. do you not believe in rewarding players who do well? no need for same lineup stuff. just the star player on the night being man managed appropriately.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 23, 2016 22:06:45 GMT
That should see our usual return of a single shot on target. I would actually find it massively more surprising if there wasn’t a change or two than if we went with an 11 that was a combination of the 12 that started the first two. Me, too. I'm baffled that Adam can't get a start with the lack of chances being created. I'm tired of us trying to score the perfect goal; mix it up a bit! Again isn't that the managers fault? The players can do it. They're clearly not instructed to so don't.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 23, 2016 22:06:53 GMT
Crouch will start on Saturday. Cameron will start as well.
Adam will be on the bench. He was very hit and miss tonight and he was blowing out of his arse at the end. Walters will be on the bench. He was garbage tonight. Why? Looks like Bards played well today, and wasn't all that bad on Sat.
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Post by silverdollar on Aug 23, 2016 22:06:57 GMT
Really pleased for Crouchy! Nice for him to get a hat trick against Stevenage in the cup! Saturday's game is in the Premiership! Peter will not be in the starting eleven!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 23, 2016 22:08:07 GMT
Crouch will start on Saturday. Cameron will start as well. Adam will be on the bench. He was very hit and miss tonight and he was blowing out of his arse at the end. Walters will be on the bench. He was garbage tonight. If Crouch starts, Hughes is a bigger idiot than I'm starting to think he is. You've got 3 seasons worth of history to use. Kj, Walters and crouch all earned starts in the next league game after goals and good performances in league cup ties against lower league opposition
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Post by 1963 on Aug 23, 2016 22:08:44 GMT
A few stats re SCFC: if my Maths is right (but not checked)
Crouch: goals per game = 0.27 Diouf 0.24 Walters 0.23 Joselu 0.15
Ritchie 0.50
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 23, 2016 22:09:01 GMT
Crouch will start on Saturday. Cameron will start as well.
Adam will be on the bench. He was very hit and miss tonight and he was blowing out of his arse at the end. Walters will be on the bench. He was garbage tonight. Why? Looks like Bards played well today, and wasn't all that bad on Sat. At centre half
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 23, 2016 22:09:36 GMT
He chased Diouf for 18 months and was prepared to pay £8M for him who doesn't really fit his main playing style either.
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Post by happyending on Aug 23, 2016 22:09:49 GMT
Every time crouch plays he causes problems for the opposition and carries out his duties at set pieces attacking and defending. It's not about winning ugly or pretty,just winning and he's an absolute pro who never gives up. Would be nice to go to Goodison and play them off the park but I don't think it's likely...and if scoring a hat trick doesn't put you in contention then what does that do for team morale?
I do wonder if there's some kind of stigma attached to winning with Crouch,almost like it's not how we want to win matches - hitting it up to the big man. He is so much more than that and still fit and effective. The players and fans love him and we do still pay him a handsome wage. If Adam or Shaquiri play then every set piece becomes a real opportunity,even more so considering the shirt pulling crackdown. I'd start him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 22:10:11 GMT
I think Erik needs a general kick up the backside to be totally frank, based on a longer period of time. I'd even take a risk on Taylor (at home to start with) just to freshen things up if needed. re. Crouch. I've made points previously about signing a target man type over a Berahino type, because I've always felt a target man in Hughes' team here has got the best out of our more creative players and given us a real out ball and focal point. Pelle would have been ideal had he not had a good Euro's! I wouldn't argue with any of that mate but if Hughes starts Crouch in a league match on Saturday after spending the whole of the summer completely and utterly transfixed on getting Berahino as his main man up front, then it'll leave me seriously wondering what it is he's trying to achieve with his tactics. EDIT: Yeah, pretty much what Bayern said whilst I was posting this. He obviously wants a target man in his squad, else he wouldn't have signed Joselu, who was well known for his aerial stats in Germany If I'm not mistaken? Safe to assume he was ear marked to replace Crouch? I don't really know where that fits in with this summer though, given he seems to have given up on him totally, whilst chasing a glorified poacher?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 23, 2016 22:10:33 GMT
If Crouch starts, Hughes is a bigger idiot than I'm starting to think he is. You've got 3 seasons worth of history to use. Kj, Walters and crouch all earned starts in the next league game after goals and good performances in league cup ties against lower league opposition He rarely did it last year.
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Post by dieguito88 on Aug 23, 2016 22:13:17 GMT
In the first mh season here Kenwyne Jones has scorre an hattrick in the League Cup midweek match, same round as this. He starter the follow weekend match against city ended 0 - 0
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Post by sufolkstokie on Aug 23, 2016 22:13:38 GMT
Crouch will start on Saturday. Cameron will start as well. Adam will be on the bench. He was very hit and miss tonight and he was blowing out of his arse at the end. Walters will be on the bench. He was garbage tonight. Adam still had an influence on the game Walters as you say was poor again
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 23, 2016 22:13:40 GMT
You've got 3 seasons worth of history to use. Kj, Walters and crouch all earned starts in the next league game after goals and good performances in league cup ties against lower league opposition He rarely did it last year. Adam in particular was a victim of his change of attitude in this regard last season.
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Post by TexasPotter on Aug 23, 2016 22:15:00 GMT
Was Whelan wank again or did he show some pep in the step?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 23, 2016 22:17:06 GMT
He chased Diouf for 18 months and was prepared to pay £8M for him who doesn't really fit his main playing style either. Surely your game plan and tactics for virtually every player on the pitch is completely different if you're playing with Crouch as your sole striker rather than (say) Berahino?
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Post by samba :) on Aug 23, 2016 22:19:12 GMT
You love starting threads don't you. dont we all
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 23, 2016 22:21:58 GMT
You've got 3 seasons worth of history to use. Kj, Walters and crouch all earned starts in the next league game after goals and good performances in league cup ties against lower league opposition He rarely did it last year. He's,always done it with the forwards. Kenwyne after Walsall, crouch after Tranmere and Walters after Luton
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 23, 2016 22:24:08 GMT
He rarely did it last year. He's,always done it with the forwards. Kenwyne after Walsall, crouch after Tranmere and Walters after Luton Ireland after Luton? Much better than Walters. Nadder. He's getting very annoying with his inconsistency.
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 23, 2016 22:25:00 GMT
That should see our usual return of a single shot on target. I would actually find it massively more surprising if there wasn’t a change or two than if we went with an 11 that was a combination of the 12 that started the first two. The tactics need to change. We don't cross the ball in the league. I think they're told not to. That needs to change. Supply Diouf with crosses and he will flourish. We just don't. Imbula was mom in the last away game and people seem to be forgetting this. I'd drop Wolly. Hughes won't. He shouldn't start Crouch, terrible management. Walters was garbage vs Man City. Adam possibly but harsh on Imbula for me after Boro. what an absolutely ridiculous statement that is. terrible management to ignore a high performance? what kind of bullshit message does this give to ANY player not currently getting a game? don't worry boys even if you play a fucking blinder you won't get a league game here.... as usual, bayern talking out of his arsehole
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 23, 2016 22:29:56 GMT
The tactics need to change. We don't cross the ball in the league. I think they're told not to. That needs to change. Supply Diouf with crosses and he will flourish. We just don't. Imbula was mom in the last away game and people seem to be forgetting this. I'd drop Wolly. Hughes won't. He shouldn't start Crouch, terrible management. Walters was garbage vs Man City. Adam possibly but harsh on Imbula for me after Boro. what an absolutely ridiculous statement that is. terrible management to ignore a high performance? what kind of bullshit message does this give to ANY player not currently getting a game? don't worry boys even if you play a fucking blinder you won't get a league game here.... as usual, bayern talking out of his arsehole Starting someone who just isn't suited to what we need and the tactic we want is bad management. His performance against a League 2 side in a second rate cup mean nothing.
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