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Post by cruelking on Aug 23, 2016 21:06:27 GMT
i would seriously consider starting with crouch, adam, walters & muniesa. dropping diouf, bojan, pieters & imbula/whelan.
if defenders cant foul crouch off set pieces from now on them he will score more goals then any of our other strikers. this new rule will mean that target men strikers will become a more important source of goals again from now on for all clubs. if you take your chance then you deserve to start the next match- crouch scored 3 tonight.
adam and walters would both play with a lot of heart and play their socks off and i believe that adam is a greater goal threat than bojan. pieters has had a terrible start to the season and looks slow, so muniesa deserves a turn now at left back.
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Post by boothenesque on Aug 23, 2016 21:07:23 GMT
Crouchie+Bojan 4-4-2, back to basics, get balls in the box, Crouchie either heads down to Bojan or scores himself. Yeah play decent football but try and keep it simple, a bit more direct, we have the players and quality. Allen is better at doing what Bojan is being asked to do. Liberate Bojan to be the fox in the box. Shaq and Arnie to get the balls in the box, Whelan/Imbula and Allen in the middle, concentrate on defending at the back instead of all this tippy tappy stuff. Still options on the bench to change it, with Imbula, Adam, Diouf, Walters.
Buts Bards Wolly Shawx Pieters Shaq Allen Whelan Arnie Crouchie Bojan
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 23, 2016 21:07:55 GMT
Jesus wept ...
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Post by 1963 on Aug 23, 2016 21:08:19 GMT
I love this forum. Conceed four against Man City & all our players are wank, we've lost the plot, deffo going down, it's all shit, shit, shit. Score four against Stevenage & whay-hey, these players are fucking mint, get 'em all in the team & all our problems are solved, Champions League here we come. if you can't get into the first team after scoring a competitive hattrick then what motivation is there for anyone beyond the regular 16 or so? it's pretty logical man management of any decent coach by rewarding positive performances. surely?? Totally agree. What more can the guy do? Top scorer as I say.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 23, 2016 21:09:04 GMT
All the players who've come in have seemingly put themselves in the picture for Saturday. Surely some in the starting 11 from the past two league games can't be as bulletproof in their positions as some are making out on here can they? Regardless of the opposition tonight. Why the fuck don't we cross in the league? That's my biggest takeaway from this. I assume that was a rhetorical question, Bayern. However, it is possible that the Premier League FBs get a lot tighter on our wingers. Or maybe, just maybe Hughes has given up on this reversed- wingers bollox. I hope it's the latter.
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 23, 2016 21:09:19 GMT
The lunatics are taking over the asylum......
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 23, 2016 21:11:37 GMT
The lunatics are taking over the asylum...... you guys could perhaps contribute here? you are against crouch starting? or are you commenting on the other posts that want mass changes?
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Post by coggy on Aug 23, 2016 21:11:38 GMT
Gosh !
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 23, 2016 21:15:03 GMT
The lunatics are taking over the asylum...... you guys could perhaps contribute here? you are against crouch starting? or are you commenting on the other posts that want mass changes? My original reply appeared (and was meant to appear) directly after cruelking's post suggesting that we replace 4 out of our 10 outfield players based on a performance tonight that he didn't see. Then Admin merged the threads and it got moved down and lost it's meaning. as you asked ... Would I start Crouch on Saturday? No.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 21:15:28 GMT
the guy simply should start. showing the squad that you are rewarded for good performances is a fantastic message to put across to this team right now given how many players are in really poor form. adam as well. This this and this. Now is a time for rock solid man management that could really kick start our season. 4th division or not you need to be fair and even handed and reward the lads that played tonight and played well. We'd soon be coming down on them like a ton of bricks and be demanding the fringe lot to be 'fcuked off' had we lost.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 23, 2016 21:18:25 GMT
Who is genuinely undroppable from the first team after our first ever so mindblowing two games? 12 different players have started and 14 been involved.
How many have played well and are now deemed untouchable?
Luckily I think Hughes will have a far more meritorious selection than some on here give him credit for.
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Post by werrington on Aug 23, 2016 21:19:25 GMT
the guy simply should start. showing the squad that you are rewarded for good performances is a fantastic message to put across to this team right now given how many players are in really poor form. adam as well. This this and this. Now is a time for rock solid man management that could really kick start our season. 4th division or not you need to be fair and even handed and reward the lads that played tonight and played well. We'd soon be coming down on them like a ton of bricks and be demanding the fringe lot to be 'fcuked off' had we lost. So what you are saying is we should be unchanged v Everton ? Jesus I'll take me calculator
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 21:20:13 GMT
This this and this. Now is a time for rock solid man management that could really kick start our season. 4th division or not you need to be fair and even handed and reward the lads that played tonight and played well. We'd soon be coming down on them like a ton of bricks and be demanding the fringe lot to be 'fcuked off' had we lost. So what you are saying is we should be unchanged v Everton ? Jesus I'll take me calculator Take it anyway after Saturday!? ;D
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 23, 2016 21:21:28 GMT
the guy simply should start. showing the squad that you are rewarded for good performances is a fantastic message to put across to this team right now given how many players are in really poor form. adam as well. This this and this. Now is a time for rock solid man management that could really kick start our season. 4th division or not you need to be fair and even handed and reward the lads that played tonight and played well. We'd soon be coming down on them like a ton of bricks and be demanding the fringe lot to be 'fcuked off' had we lost. Which ones didn't play well tonight then and as such shouldn't start at Everton?
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Post by 1963 on Aug 23, 2016 21:22:04 GMT
The lunatics are taking over the asylum...... Thought they did this on the 23rd June
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 21:23:04 GMT
This this and this. Now is a time for rock solid man management that could really kick start our season. 4th division or not you need to be fair and even handed and reward the lads that played tonight and played well. We'd soon be coming down on them like a ton of bricks and be demanding the fringe lot to be 'fcuked off' had we lost. Which ones didn't play well tonight then and as such shouldn't start at Everton? What would your team be for Everton?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 23, 2016 21:25:21 GMT
Which ones didn't play well tonight then and as such shouldn't start at Everton? What would your team be for Everton? It wouldn't be the team that played against Stevenage, which is what you are implying it should be if you follow your logic through.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 21:26:17 GMT
What would your team be for Everton? It wouldn't be the team that played against Stevenage, which is what you are implying it should be if you follow your logic through. Who deserves to keep their place after Saturday?
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Post by coggy on Aug 23, 2016 21:32:59 GMT
What would your team be for Everton? It wouldn't be the team that played against Stevenage, which is what you are implying it should be if you follow your logic through. 😂😂😂
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 23, 2016 21:33:11 GMT
It wouldn't be the team that played against Stevenage, which is what you are implying it should be if you follow your logic through. Who deserves to keep their place after Saturday? How many straw mans are you going to chuck out mate? We just beat a fourth tier side, which most of us didn't even see and yet you're advocating that the players who played 'well' HAVE to start, over players who didn't play 'well' against the favourites to the win league? Come on mate, you're better than that sort of argument.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 23, 2016 21:33:31 GMT
It wouldn't be the team that played against Stevenage, which is what you are implying it should be if you follow your logic through. Who deserves to keep their place after Saturday? Middlesbrough was worse in my view. There wont be mass changes but surely shaking things up with a couple of changes isn't as ludicrous as is being painted.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 21:40:17 GMT
Who deserves to keep their place after Saturday? How many straw mans are you going to chuck out mate? We just beat a fourth tier side, which most of us didn't even see and yet you're advocating that the players who played 'well' HAVE to start, over players who didn't play 'well' against the favourites to the win league? Come on mate, you're better than that sort of argument. Look at it another way. If we didn't play tonight and turned up at Everton with that side would there be much to argue about? Muniesa for Pieters? I don't personally like him at left back but Pieters has been poor and it's universally been accepted as such. Cameron for Wollscheid? There'd be street parties for days! Adam for Imbula? He was slated after Saturday and rightly so. Adam can offer more defensively and offensively at times. Walters for Bojan out wide? When has Bojan ever been a wide man? The only contentious decision, ironically, would be Crouch. However, I could only see an argument for the False 9 given the team and manager's apparent lack of trust in Diouf. So going back to the original point, is it really THAT much of a daft suggestion?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 23, 2016 21:41:07 GMT
The evidence of the previous 3 seasons suggests crouch will start on Saturday.
Cameron probably has earnt a,start as,well.
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Post by skelman on Aug 23, 2016 21:43:22 GMT
That's put Crouchie well and truly in the window as part of a £+ exchange deal though hasn't it ......
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 21:44:05 GMT
I hope he doesn't start, shown he's still valuable off the bench with good service though. I'd still start Diouf.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 23, 2016 21:44:09 GMT
How many straw mans are you going to chuck out mate? We just beat a fourth tier side, which most of us didn't even see and yet you're advocating that the players who played 'well' HAVE to start, over players who didn't play 'well' against the favourites to the win league? Come on mate, you're better than that sort of argument. Look at it another way. If we didn't play tonight and turned up at Everton with that side would there be much to argue about? Muniesa for Pieters? I don't personally like him at left back but Pieters has been poor and it's universally been accepted as such. Cameron for Wollscheid? There'd be street parties for days! Adam for Imbula? He was slated after Saturday and rightly so. Adam can offer more defensively and offensively at times. Walters for Bojan out wide? When has Bojan ever been a wide man? The only contentious decision, ironically, would be Crouch. However, I could only see an argument for the False 9 given the team and manager's apparent lack of trust in Diouf. So going back to the original point, is it really THAT much of a daft suggestion? No No No No No The only change should be Shaqiri in if fit.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 23, 2016 21:48:39 GMT
Look at it another way. If we didn't play tonight and turned up at Everton with that side would there be much to argue about? Muniesa for Pieters? I don't personally like him at left back but Pieters has been poor and it's universally been accepted as such. Cameron for Wollscheid? There'd be street parties for days! Adam for Imbula? He was slated after Saturday and rightly so. Adam can offer more defensively and offensively at times. Walters for Bojan out wide? When has Bojan ever been a wide man? The only contentious decision, ironically, would be Crouch. However, I could only see an argument for the False 9 given the team and manager's apparent lack of trust in Diouf. So going back to the original point, is it really THAT much of a daft suggestion? No No No No No The only change should be Shaqiri in if fit. That should see our usual return of a single shot on target. I would actually find it massively more surprising if there wasn’t a change or two than if we went with an 11 that was a combination of the 12 that started the first two.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 23, 2016 21:48:57 GMT
How many straw mans are you going to chuck out mate? We just beat a fourth tier side, which most of us didn't even see and yet you're advocating that the players who played 'well' HAVE to start, over players who didn't play 'well' against the favourites to the win league? Come on mate, you're better than that sort of argument. Look at it another way. If we didn't play tonight and turned up at Everton with that side would there be much to argue about? Muniesa for Pieters? I don't personally like him at left back but Pieters has been poor and it's universally been accepted as such. Cameron for Wollscheid? There'd be street parties for days! Adam for Imbula? He was slated after Saturday and rightly so. Adam can offer more defensively and offensively at times. Walters for Bojan out wide? When has Bojan ever been a wide man? The only contentious decision, ironically, would be Crouch. However, I could only see an argument for the False 9 given the team and manager's apparent lack of trust in Diouf. So going back to the original point, is it really THAT much of a daft suggestion? I think the Crouch one is because we aren't set up to play to a target man, period and regardless of what he did today. Are the other three daft individually? No not really but they would be decisions that would (and should) be made regardless of the game tonight (which wasn't ever going to tell us much). How did you think Muniesa played at left back tonight and did you see enough to think he would be better than Eric on Saturday?
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 23, 2016 21:53:20 GMT
I would put Cameron in instead of wolly, muni for pieters, walters for bojan,
Butland
Johnson Cameron shawx Muni
Allen Imbula/bojan Whelan Walters Diouf Arnie
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Post by lordb on Aug 23, 2016 21:54:20 GMT
Look at it another way. If we didn't play tonight and turned up at Everton with that side would there be much to argue about? Muniesa for Pieters? I don't personally like him at left back but Pieters has been poor and it's universally been accepted as such. Cameron for Wollscheid? There'd be street parties for days! Adam for Imbula? He was slated after Saturday and rightly so. Adam can offer more defensively and offensively at times. Walters for Bojan out wide? When has Bojan ever been a wide man? The only contentious decision, ironically, would be Crouch. However, I could only see an argument for the False 9 given the team and manager's apparent lack of trust in Diouf. So going back to the original point, is it really THAT much of a daft suggestion? I think the Crouch one is because we aren't set up to play to a target man, period and regardless of what he did today. Are the other three daft individually? No not really but they would be decisions that would (and should) be made regardless of the game tonight (which wasn't ever going to tell us much). How did you think Muniesa played at left back tonight and did you see enough to think he would be better than Eric on Saturday? Eric had a shocker at Middlesbrough but I thought he had a decent game v Manchester City. So irrespective of what Muniesa did Eric should play this one. Crouch on the other hand has a stronger case. I really want to see Adam in the side. Could live with 4411 with Arnie given a licence to roam,Charlie on the left. We don't really have a right sided midfielder to do that though.
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