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Post by chrisparker on Aug 14, 2016 20:47:37 GMT
Defence is an absolute priority in this game. The best lineup would be -
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Glen - Shaw - Wolly - Piets
------- Allen - Whelan -------
Shaq --- Imbula ---- Arnie ----------- Diouf ------------
I'm slightly worried though that Hughes will go for a false 9 instead with Bojan up top which would be a complete disaster considering Pep likes to play a high pressure game against which the false 9 is useless, unless of course you're Barcelona and can play your way through the intense pressure.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Aug 14, 2016 20:48:54 GMT
Defence is an absolute priority in this game. The best lineup would be - ---------- Given ------------- Glen - Shaw - Wolly - Piets ------- Allen - Imbula ------- Shaq --- Imbula ---- Arnie ----------- Diouf ------------ I'm slightly worried though that Hughes will go for a false 9 instead with Bojan up top which would be a complete disaster considering Pep likes to play a high pressure game against which the false 9 is useless, unless of course you're Barcelona and can play your way through the intense pressure. Picking Imbula twice is a gamble for me
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Post by chrisparker on Aug 14, 2016 20:50:03 GMT
Defence is an absolute priority in this game. The best lineup would be - ---------- Given ------------- Glen - Shaw - Wolly - Piets ------- Allen - Imbula ------- Shaq --- Imbula ---- Arnie ----------- Diouf ------------ I'm slightly worried though that Hughes will go for a false 9 instead with Bojan up top which would be a complete disaster considering Pep likes to play a high pressure game against which the false 9 is useless, unless of course you're Barcelona and can play your way through the intense pressure. Picking Imbula twice is a gamble for me Woops sorry corrected now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 20:53:33 GMT
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Post by trentvale68 on Aug 14, 2016 20:54:57 GMT
I don't care as long as there is a new face or two either starting or on the bench
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Post by StokieNath on Aug 14, 2016 20:55:08 GMT
Whelan? No thanks, he's been a cracking servent but it's Joey's time now. Unless Les is thinking of Joe as an Afellay replacement. Anyway, I'll go for...
Shay
Glen Ryan Phil Eric
Joey Gianelli
Shaq Boj Arnie
Mame.
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Post by chrisparker on Aug 14, 2016 20:56:12 GMT
Whelan? No thanks, he's been a cracking servent but it's Joey's time now. Unless Les is thinking of Joe as an Afellay replacement. Anyway, I'll go for... Shay Glen Ryan Phil Eric Joey Gianelli Shaq Boj Arnie Mame. Have a feeling we'll get torn apart if we field out that team.
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Aug 14, 2016 21:02:36 GMT
Is Allen really a replacement for Whelan? When he was at Swansea or Liverpool I hardly saw him drop back into the defence while the fullbacks attacked, he's more of a box to box kind of player not someone who sits.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 21:08:35 GMT
Jack (hopefully)
Johnson ryan cameron pieters
Allen Whelan Imbula
Shaq arnie Bojan
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Post by ravey123 on Aug 14, 2016 22:26:54 GMT
Jack (hopefully) Johnson ryan cameron pieters Allen Whelan Imbula Shaq arnie Bojan Given Johnson Shawcross Wolly Pieters Imbula Allen Walters Shaq Arnie Bojan
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 14, 2016 22:28:37 GMT
A return to false ninery for me.
We should have beaten them 6-0 last season.
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 14, 2016 22:46:08 GMT
Given
Johnson (Cameron if not fit) Shawcross Wollscheid Muniesa
Allen Whelan Imbula
Shaqiri Bojan Arnie
Same system and tactics as we used against them last season.
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 14, 2016 22:49:54 GMT
Given
Johnson shawcross wollscied Eric
Whelan Allen
Imbula
Shaqiri Bojan Arnautovic
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 15, 2016 3:43:44 GMT
Given Johnson Shawcross Wollscheid Pieters
Allen Imbula Whelan
Shaqiri Diouf Arnautovic
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 5:49:29 GMT
Given Johnson (Cameron if not fit) Shawcross Wollscheid Muniesa Allen Whelan Imbula Shaqiri Bojan Arnie Same system and tactics as we used against them last season. I'd go with this line up. Barring injuries / new players, I'd try this selection for a good run of games too.
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Post by stokecity4life on Aug 15, 2016 5:49:49 GMT
For me it`s down to how we want to approach the game....
Personally i would play the second team of the three.....
To play defensively and cautiously:
---------- Given -------------
Glen - Shaw - Wolly - Piets
------- Allen - Whelan -------
Shaq --- Imbula ---- Arnie ----------- Diouf ------------
To take the game to them and try and win:
---------- Given -------------
Glen - Shaw - Wolly - Piets
------- Allen - Imbula -------
Shaq --- Bojan ---- Arnie ----------- Diouf ------------
Or a combination of both and to adopt the approach from last season
---------- Given -------------
Glen - Shaw - Wolly - Piets
------- Allen - Whelan -------
---------- Imbula ------------ --Shaq----- Bojan -----Arnie-
Notes
- Need to give Pieters at least this game to redeem himself, if he gets ruined in this match then Muniesa comes in for the next game - Glen replaced Bardo if fit, if not then i would play Cameron due to Bardo`s poor performance against Middlesboro - Whelan looked very poor in preseason and against Middlesboro so unless we play all three CMs then he`s the one to drop out for me
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Post by rich0529 on Aug 15, 2016 6:38:15 GMT
Butland
Johnson(Hopefully) - Shawcross - Wollscheid - Pieters
Allen - Imbula
Sobhi Shaqiri Arnautovic
Bojan
Be nice to se this formation not everyone would agree but I think starting sobhi making him feel important I think he would shine. For me Shaqiri needs to be central (again not everyone will agree)
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 15, 2016 13:00:39 GMT
Butland
Johnson(Hopefully) - Shawcross - Wollscheid - Pieters
Allen - Imbula
Sobhi Shaqiri Arnautovic
Bojan
Be nice to se this formation not everyone would agree but I think starting sobhi making him feel important I think he would shine. For me Shaqiri needs to be central (again not everyone will agree) I like that option, save that, for now, I'd pick Walters ahead of Sobhi, who needs time to settle in and adjust to the English game. Walters will also give us a out ball long to his head and using his upper body strength, which we sacrifice with Bojan up top. Given (Butland once fit) Johnson (Cameron if unfit) - Shawcross - Wollscheid - Pieters Allen - Imbula Walters Shaqiri Arnautovic Bojan
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Post by that's our Ric on Aug 15, 2016 14:23:53 GMT
Butland
Johnson(Hopefully) - Shawcross - Wollscheid - Pieters
Allen - Imbula
Sobhi Shaqiri Arnautovic
Bojan
Be nice to se this formation not everyone would agree but I think starting sobhi making him feel important I think he would shine. For me Shaqiri needs to be central (again not everyone will agree) I like that option, save that, for now, I'd pick Walters ahead of Sobhi, who needs time to settle in and adjust to the English game. Walters will also give us a out ball long to his head and using his upper body strength, which we sacrifice with Bojan up top. Given (Butland once fit) Johnson (Cameron if unfit) - Shawcross - Wollscheid - Pieters Allen - Imbula Walters Shaqiri Arnautovic Bojan Like the look of that too. Maybe Whelan for Allen just for extra defensive security Imbula needs to be in there, and playing Shaq centrally could be a magic ingredient akin to the false 9 we shone with last year
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 14:42:37 GMT
Could be a massive victory if we manage it. Early kickoff too so could cause ripples.
Come on Boj, show that charlatan wannabe-tactician that he's overrated tat. You deserve it lad
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Post by rich0529 on Aug 15, 2016 14:45:01 GMT
Butland
Johnson(Hopefully) - Shawcross - Wollscheid - Pieters
Allen - Imbula
Sobhi Shaqiri Arnautovic
Bojan
Be nice to se this formation not everyone would agree but I think starting sobhi making him feel important I think he would shine. For me Shaqiri needs to be central (again not everyone will agree) I like that option, save that, for now, I'd pick Walters ahead of Sobhi, who needs time to settle in and adjust to the English game. Walters will also give us a out ball long to his head and using his upper body strength, which we sacrifice with Bojan up top. Given (Butland once fit) Johnson (Cameron if unfit) - Shawcross - Wollscheid - Pieters Allen - Imbula Walters Shaqiri Arnautovic Bojan Yeh totally agree mate, Given will be good cover for Butland for now (forgot jack was injured), seemed pretty switched on against Middlesbrough.
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Post by ruts66 on Aug 15, 2016 14:50:50 GMT
Not sure how you counter some of Guardiola's formations.
Against Sunderland his fullbacks were often ahead of and central to the two centre halves.
Weird shit... :-)
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Post by multiplescoregasms on Aug 15, 2016 14:51:33 GMT
Given Cameron Shawcross Wollscheid Pieters Allen Whelan Shaqiri Imbula Arnautovic Walters
For me this is the best, bit of extra defensive work from the front, imbula dropping to help out and Walters to get in and around stones to force a mistake, last 20 minutes put diouf on for counter attack and direct running at stones/kolarov who started their game this weekend, both of which are capable of making mistakes.
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Post by ryan4england on Aug 15, 2016 15:00:58 GMT
Man city will score at least 3
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Post by jwhpotter on Aug 15, 2016 18:20:19 GMT
Never claimed to be ITK but heard that Johnson will definitely be fit! He could have played Saturday but wasn't risked
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 18:31:23 GMT
Man city will score at least 3 That's a strange starting line up.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 15, 2016 19:06:49 GMT
Given Johnson Shawlacross Wolly Pieters Imbula Whelan Walters Allen Arnie Diouf
Harass them early on and go for it late on.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 15, 2016 20:04:15 GMT
Its interesting to see the line ups , having seen Citeh on Saturday as is the Pep way they will flood midfield and try to dominate possession by closing us down so as far as I can see it I would go with as close a team as possible to the one we played at Anfield in the semi and play direct . 1, To avoid being dominated by them in midfield 2, Their Centre halves are a weakness
Shay Glenn / Cam Eric Ryan Wolly
SJW Whelan Allen Arnie
Bojan / Shaq
Crouch
I would play the ball up to Crouch and SJW as often as possible and get the others to try and support them .
If we try to outpass a Pep team I can only see them winning , I expect them to be much more aggressive in closing us down than they were last season
Id star Whelan over Imbula because in a game like this the two holding midfielders will have to be good defensively
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Post by RichJonesy on Aug 15, 2016 20:59:35 GMT
Defence is an absolute priority in this game. The best lineup would be - ---------- Given ------------- Glen - Shaw - Wolly - Piets ------- Allen - Imbula ------- Shaq --- Imbula ---- Arnie ----------- Diouf ------------ I'm slightly worried though that Hughes will go for a false 9 instead with Bojan up top which would be a complete disaster considering Pep likes to play a high pressure game against which the false 9 is useless, unless of course you're Barcelona and can play your way through the intense pressure. Picking Imbula twice is a gamble for me Two Imbula's is better than one
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Post by ncstokie on Aug 15, 2016 21:00:43 GMT
Given Johnson (Cameron if not fit) Shawcross Wollscheid Muniesa Allen Whelan Imbula Shaqiri Bojan Arnie Same system and tactics as we used against them last season. I like this one, especially since watching a game may give Pieters a kick in the ass!
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