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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 13, 2016 10:31:19 GMT
Well football season has arrived and I don't think I've ever been less excited.
On the flip side, I'm really looking forward to our trip to Stevenage and the most enjoyable day out last season was away at Doncaster.
Would it really be so bad if we got relegated or am I being old, miserable and a bit daft?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2016 10:34:22 GMT
Yes
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2016 10:34:29 GMT
No Butland, no Bojan, no Shaqiri, no Arnie, no Imbula.
Yep itd be pretty fucking catastrophic
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Aug 13, 2016 10:37:09 GMT
First couple of seasons up it would have been ok ( not good but manageable) now with the wages we pay it'd smash the club to pieces
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Post by skemstokie on Aug 13, 2016 10:37:12 GMT
Well football season has arrived and I don't think I've ever been less excited. On the flip side, I'm really looking forward to our trip to Stevenage and the most enjoyable day out last season was away at Doncaster. Would it really be so bad if we got relegated or am I being old, miserable and a bit daft? You stupid boy.
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 13, 2016 10:38:01 GMT
I know what you mean, but the thought of a half empty Brit, local kids going around in gloryhunter shirts and the prospect of never coming back are enough to put me off.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2016 10:38:28 GMT
Plus no corners filled in Less support Not on match of the day Players would bugger off.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 13, 2016 10:38:51 GMT
An absolute disaster.
I can't fathom why people want to return to these shithole fixtures in the arse-end of nowhere, with a load of no-mark, vanilla players, that's my idea of hell.
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Post by silverdollar on Aug 13, 2016 10:39:02 GMT
I will not try to answer your question but ask you a question. Explain to me why you think we might finish below these teams: Hull Watford West Bromwich Burnley Swansea Bournemouth Middlesbrough?
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Post by samba :) on Aug 13, 2016 10:39:33 GMT
Le shitus binus
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 13, 2016 10:40:26 GMT
Well football season has arrived and I don't think I've ever been less excited. On the flip side, I'm really looking forward to our trip to Stevenage and the most enjoyable day out last season was away at Doncaster. Would it really be so bad if we got relegated or am I being old, miserable and a bit daft? I suppose it depends purely on how you see football. If you see it as a competitive sport (which basically it is) then aspiring to be the best you can be is what it is about. If you prefer, as a fan, to enjoy the experience of the day or where you visit or of who you meet, then perhaps yes for you it would be preferable as clearly there are more passionate fans with better stories to tell. The problem with going down now with so much cash in the game, if Bet365/Coates family were to abandon ship, it would, in all likeliness, be disastrous and I would have no doubt we would be closer to the bottom of the football league ladder than at the top. I don't think anyone wants that.
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Post by liamo on Aug 13, 2016 10:41:41 GMT
Nostalgia is a bad thing, you'd spend a season in the championship, think "fuck me this isn't how i remember it" then cry yourself to sleep and dream of finishing 9th in the Premier League
Take a step back and look at where we are compared to 10 years ago
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2016 10:43:01 GMT
Well football season has arrived and I don't think I've ever been less excited. On the flip side, I'm really looking forward to our trip to Stevenage and the most enjoyable day out last season was away at Doncaster. Would it really be so bad if we got relegated or am I being old, miserable and a bit daft? I suppose it depends purely on how you see football. If you see it as a competitive sport (which basically it is) then aspiring to be the best you can be is what it is about. If you prefer, as a fan, to enjoy the experience of the day or where you visit or of who you meet, then perhaps yes for you it would be preferable as clearly there are more passionate fans with better stories to tell. The problem with going down now with so much cash in the game, if Bet365/Coates family were to abandon ship, it would, in all likeliness, be disastrous and I would have no doubt we would be closer to the bottom of the football league ladder than at the top. I don't think anyone wants that. This.
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Post by JC9 on Aug 13, 2016 10:44:37 GMT
Bloody hell seasons not even kicked off yet
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2016 10:44:56 GMT
It would be a disaster, as I am not convinced we would be a yoyo team, and it would be by no means certain that we'd be straight back up, look at the likes of Bolton, Forest, Leeds, even Coventry, spent years at the top table and now well and truly also rans living on memories of years gone by... Personally now i'd put us in the same bracket as Everton, not by any means certain to stay up, but really well established and not likely to go down.. There are 3 tiers in the Prem, and we are probably in the top half of tier 2. And indeed have been for 3 seasons now.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 13, 2016 10:46:15 GMT
I will not try to answer your question but ask you a question. Explain to me why you think we might finish below these teams: Hull Watford West Bromwich Burnley Swansea Bournemouth Middlesbrough? I don't for one minute think we'll go down or finish below those teams. More commenting on being uninspired by a 30th consecutive season following stoke city home and away. I'm normally like a kid at Christmas as the first day arrives. Today, I'm seriously not bothered. I'm en route to boro but feel its out of habit more than anything else.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 13, 2016 10:48:23 GMT
The only place I have ever wanted to be is at the top level. During the 23 years in the wilderness some of us said they weren't arsed about getting promoted anyway which I thought was utter bollox. Yes relegation would be shit. We are in a golden age and it should be treasured. Live in the moment and enjoy it.
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 13, 2016 10:50:07 GMT
I will not try to answer your question but ask you a question. Explain to me why you think we might finish below these teams: Hull Watford West Bromwich Burnley Swansea Bournemouth Middlesbrough? I don't for one minute think we'll go down or finish below those teams. More commenting on being uninspired by a 30th consecutive season following stoke city home and away. I'm normally like a kid at Christmas as the first day arrives. Today, I'm seriously not bothered. I'm en route to boro but feel its out of habit more than anything else. I think the more money sploshing around the game is nullifying the important parts of a season. To be honest, even the friendlies used to be a bit more interesting, now you see anyone popping up randonly against a decent team. The season start, Christmas period and end of year run in are dull now so I just take each game as it comes and rely on the cups a bit more for the buzz factor. I really dont know how they will fix football, but it is getting beyond recovery IMO (For Wrestling fans, think nWo takeover of old WCW before it killled it off completely )
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Post by charlesjefferson on Aug 13, 2016 10:50:29 GMT
I didn't get where I am today without remembering a post made on here about 7 years ago.
I forget who posted it but it was a quote from the James song 'Sit Down' and the reason I remember it is because whenever this kind of question pops up it sums up my feelings on the matter perfectly.
"If I hadn't seen such riches I could live with being poor"
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 13, 2016 10:51:39 GMT
Good fucking Lord above, it would be an absolute catastrophe. More than that, a calamatous fucking disaster that would basically be suicide.
Add in that the Championship is the fucking worst division for enjoyment in probably the whole world and the club would be on its knees.
That suggestion can go and fuck then kill itself, the Premier League is the only place to be.
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Post by pigshead on Aug 13, 2016 10:51:51 GMT
Is this a serious question?....Or are you under the influence of chemicals ? 😏
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 13, 2016 10:53:35 GMT
I said to the resident Villa fans on here that they would probably end up enjoying it more than they think after the misery of relegation. There’s no doubt that the football league has an integrity the Premier League can only dream of and there would be at least a dozen away days less than 90 minutes away and they would all be cracking.
The problem is, the way that football is set up at the minute, the minute you step away from the trough you become light years away from the top end of it again. The cracking away days and more enjoyable experience would soon become tired and the desire to finish in the top half of the biggest show in the world would soon seem like heaven and be a million miles away.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 13, 2016 10:58:10 GMT
I would be happier than a Pig in shit, if we could finish anywhere above the bottom 3 in the Premiership for years to come, so long as we win the odd cup or two.
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Post by mattador78 on Aug 13, 2016 11:04:44 GMT
Well football season has arrived and I don't think I've ever been less excited. On the flip side, I'm really looking forward to our trip to Stevenage and the most enjoyable day out last season was away at Doncaster. Would it really be so bad if we got relegated or am I being old, miserable and a bit daft? Fuck it would be horrible but id still be there with you moaning about what it was like when we were good. Also moaning about what it would be like when we were now shit, but i wouldnt honestly care because some twats arent happy now which i cant believe so you cant please everybody. As long as who ever wanted support the team where there thats all that counts. Im one of the unfortunate who have had it a lot worse than the good so i am immune to div1 football 😉
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Post by mattador78 on Aug 13, 2016 11:07:48 GMT
I said to the resident Villa fans on here that they would probably end up enjoying it more than they think after the misery of relegation. There’s no doubt that the football league has an integrity the Premier League can only dream of and there would be at least a dozen away days less than 90 minutes away and they would all be cracking. The problem is, the way that football is set up at the minute, the minute you step away from the trough you become light years away from the top end of it again. The cracking away days and more enjoyable experience would soon become tired and the desire to finish in the top half of the biggest show in the world would soon seem like heaven and be a million miles away. Probably one if the most succinct and hinest post im ever likely to see you post. Other than calling scholes a twat 👍
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Post by ruts66 on Aug 13, 2016 11:09:37 GMT
You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone, dj.
I'm so desperate for another crack at European football it hurts...
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Post by blackpoolred on Aug 13, 2016 11:29:28 GMT
Well football season has arrived and I don't think I've ever been less excited. On the flip side, I'm really looking forward to our trip to Stevenage and the most enjoyable day out last season was away at Doncaster. Would it really be so bad if we got relegated or am I being old, miserable and a bit daft? If you are old enough then you will remember that last time we got relegated to tier 2 football it took us 23 years to get back to tier 1. Not sure what you are meaning, why on earth would you want to get relegated. I do reminisce about being able to wake up on the morning of the game and deciding whether to go to the game or not. Football has got it totally wrong and is getting worse as far as the experience goes. Shitty small cold seats with bad views of the game and sitting on a phone line for 20 mins to try and get a ticket for a game 8 months in the future.. You pay a fortune in petrol and for a ticket and refreshments only to watch over paid prima-donnas diving and cheating and end up invariably watching a game with 10 vs 11 or a the team in the lead clock wasting for the last 30 mins. The powers that be have forgot it is actually a spectator sport.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Aug 13, 2016 11:43:49 GMT
It'd be a disaster. There would be a few small upsides such as more games, more midweek games, the odd chance to visit an away terrace when a minnow comes up from League One but in general it would be a disaster.
The Premier League has restored our respect after it had been damaged by years outside of the top flight where a whole generation had grown up thinking of us as a yo yo Championship-League One side rather than a club capable of comfortably surviving in the Premier League. The money keeps us sustainable and allows us to buy players like Bojan and Imbula rather than Brammer and Russell. While our crowds would hold up for a couple of seasons thanks to the residual impact of our near decade in the Premier League and wouldn't instantly drop down to 14,000 again there would definitely be a gradual drop off and it would be sad to see swathes of empty seats once again. Then of course there's the impact on our finances if we didn't make a quick return.
We wouldn't even get cheaper ticket prices. In the Championship now prices are pretty much the same and in some cases higher than the Premier League because they don't have the TV money coming in to subsidise them. Sheffield Wednesday were charging Aston Villa over £40 on the first day whilst our tickets are capped at £30. So we'd be paying more to travel to half empty grounds and we would almost certainly lose the free coach travel too because we wouldn't be able to afford to subsidise that any more.
Constant mid table can get a bit boring sometimes, but when that happens if you give your head a quick wobble and remember just how much worse it can be then you'll soon start to appreciate it more.
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Post by ianstokie on Aug 13, 2016 11:46:12 GMT
Being down is OK, you still get competitive football, but it's getting there that hurts.
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Post by xchpotter on Aug 13, 2016 11:48:34 GMT
Stupid question.....of course it would. Despite the gluttony of the premier league and everything else wrong with it I'd much rather be sat at this table than not. We have the opportunity to secure the club's future for another fifty years with a whole new fan base coming in that is more attracted by the status of the premier league.
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