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Post by partickpotter on Aug 7, 2016 16:54:41 GMT
It's a pity we can't find a test frontline spinner,you could then move Ali up the order to replace Vince or Ballance,then just be used has a 2nd. Spinner instead of our frontline spinner. Well we could give one a chance - I.e. Rashid. Interesting that Ali got his mom award for his batting. He's more than good enough to bat at 5. So let's put him there and use the space down the order for Rashid. Great end to the third test - superb England win. Well done boys.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 17:52:21 GMT
Great England performance - eventually. After the first innings deficit I thought the best that we could hope for would be a draw but some great bowling prompted the Pakistan collapse and in the end it was a relatively comfortable win. I think I heard the Sky commentators say that if Pakistan went on to win this series they would have become the No. 1 Test Team. So if England win the series I would assume we would jump up to 2nd or 3rd. The 4th Test this week should be interesting as both teams have lots to play for.
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 12, 2016 6:23:19 GMT
It's a pity we can't find a test frontline spinner,you could then move Ali up the order to replace Vince or Ballance,then just be used has a 2nd. Spinner instead of our frontline spinner. Well we could give one a chance - I.e. Rashid. Interesting that Ali got his mom award for his batting. He's more than good enough to bat at 5. So let's put him there and use the space down the order for Rashid. Great end to the third test - superb England win. Well done boys. Lucky enough to be “working” from home again yesterday, fantastic batting by Ali after taking one on the helmet first ball, interestingly Atherton reckoned only the mixed weather in the last week or so meaning pitch wasn't bone dry meant Rashid wasn't also picked. Vince got an unplayable one but I think it's time to write him off and stick with Balance, Hales will probably get the india tour but needs to perform.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 12, 2016 6:38:50 GMT
Well we could give one a chance - I.e. Rashid. Interesting that Ali got his mom award for his batting. He's more than good enough to bat at 5. So let's put him there and use the space down the order for Rashid. Great end to the third test - superb England win. Well done boys. Lucky enough to be “working” from home again yesterday, fantastic batting by Ali after taking one on the helmet first ball, interestingly Atherton reckoned only the mixed weather in the last week or so meaning pitch wasn't bone dry meant Rashid wasn't also picked. Vince got an unplayable one but I think it's time to write him off and stick with Balance, Hales will probably get the india tour but needs to perform. Our top 5 do not score enough runs - despite having two players who would have a good shout at making the top 5 of a world 11. Arguably our two most consistent batsmen in recent times have batted at 6 and 7. I wouldn't be surprised in the upcoming winter tour that both bat higher giving space for the return of Buttler and the addition of Rashid. Meaning an 11 like this - 2 of the problem top 5 spots are solved by promoting leaving just one opening spot opening with Cook (a long standing problem). I wouldn't go with Balance and I agree about Vince (sadly). Maybe Borthwick could open? Hayles just doesn't look like a test batsman. Cook ? Root Bairstow Ali Stokes Buttler Rashid Woakes Broad Anderson
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Post by wuzza on Aug 12, 2016 7:38:40 GMT
Undoubtedly need to move the batting order up by one slot and then fit a spinner in for the winter tour. Problem is who is the spinner going to be? Far from convinced by Rashid as of yet.
(Borthwick has got to be in the frame for the Vince/Ballance spot not least because of his bowling option - need the international coaches working on him big style).
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 12, 2016 7:48:33 GMT
I keep hearing the name Zafar Ansari mentioned for a potential spin option.
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 12, 2016 12:24:45 GMT
Lucky enough to be “working” from home again yesterday, fantastic batting by Ali after taking one on the helmet first ball, interestingly Atherton reckoned only the mixed weather in the last week or so meaning pitch wasn't bone dry meant Rashid wasn't also picked. Vince got an unplayable one but I think it's time to write him off and stick with Balance, Hales will probably get the india tour but needs to perform. Our top 5 do not score enough runs - despite having two players who would have a good shout at making the top 5 of a world 11. Arguably our two most consistent batsmen in recent times have batted at 6 and 7. I wouldn't be surprised in the upcoming winter tour that both bat higher giving space for the return of Buttler and the addition of Rashid. Meaning an 11 like this - 2 of the problem top 5 spots are solved by promoting leaving just one opening spot opening with Cook (a long standing problem). I wouldn't go with Balance and I agree about Vince (sadly). Maybe Borthwick could open? Hayles just doesn't look like a test batsman. Cook ? Root Bairstow Ali Stokes Buttler Rashid Woakes Broad Anderson Reckon Ballance for Butler and you probably have the team be a big gamble to take Butler as he is out for the season. I would pick Hildreth as a replacement for Vince in the squad, Borthwick seems to have fallen out of form just at the wrong time, 38 year old Gareth Batty was being mentioned as a likely tourist, for the openers spot Roy, Bell Drummond or Duckett are all in with a shout of being next to have a go. I'd stick with Ballance as otherwise 4-8 would all be sloggers as Geoffrey would say but should be a good test in India.
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 12, 2016 12:38:16 GMT
I keep hearing the name Zafar Ansari mentioned for a potential spin option. He was due to goto the UAE tour before he broke his hand so must be in with a shout.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 12, 2016 12:51:51 GMT
I keep hearing the name Zafar Ansari mentioned for a potential spin option. He was due to goto the UAE tour before he broke his hand so must be in with a shout. Yeah I remember that, Alec Stewart can be a tad biased but he reckons Ansari is the best spinner in the county championship right now. Can't say I've seen him tbh so not sure if he's right or not.
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 12, 2016 16:29:32 GMT
Pakistan have shown today what a good batting pitch it is. Makes our effort yesterday look pretty woeful. The fielding has once again been pathetic.
Hopefully we'll pick up a couple of wickets with the new ball tonight and keep their lead below 100, anything more and I can't see Pakistan throwing it away again like the last test.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 15, 2016 7:59:14 GMT
Well that were a right thumping!
10 wickets.
The series ends 2-2 - which seems a fair result. Both sides have strengths, and both have their weaknesses. The good news is England's weaknesses are clear - only two of our top 5 batsmen know how to play test cricket. The bad news is fixing that weakness. Let's hope the selectors start to earn their corn and come with some answers.
Onto the limited over stuff...
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 15, 2016 12:33:31 GMT
Well that were a right thumping! 10 wickets. The series ends 2-2 - which seems a fair result. Both sides have strengths, and both have their weaknesses. The good news is England's weaknesses are clear - only two of our top 5 batsmen know how to play test cricket. The bad news is fixing that weakness. Let's hope the selectors start to earn their corn and come with some answers. Onto the limited over stuff... A pretty fair assessment, listening to Bayliss on SSN just say Hales and Vince have had a fair run would expect they are toast, For India expect Ali to move up the order to bat in top 5 or 6 somewhere, be interesting to see the ODI squad as recently this seems to be the gateway to the test side.
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Post by LGH87 on Aug 16, 2016 8:48:08 GMT
Cook Roy Root Ballance Bairstow Ali Stokes Ansari Woakes Broad Anderson
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 17, 2016 11:22:23 GMT
Happy news from the other side of the world - Sri Lanka have beaten Australia in the third test in Colombo giving them a 3-0 won in the three test series. Australia also lose their no.1 test ranking spot.
Australia couldn't cope with sub continent spin.
Let's enjoy this moment.
That is before we get exposed to the same sort of stuff this winter.
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 17, 2016 13:43:52 GMT
Happy news from the other side of the world - Sri Lanka have beaten Australia in the third test in Colombo giving them a 3-0 won in the three test series. Australia also lose their no.1 test ranking spot. Australia couldn't cope with sub continent spin. Let's enjoy this moment. That is before we get exposed to the same sort of stuff this winter. Quite an achievement to lose a test when you had the opposition 26-5 first innings and were then 267-1 replying !!! Outside of their own conditions, which is pretty much everywhere but South Africa they are a pretty ordinary team against well matched opposition. Bad decision to have no warm up games, at least England will be going to India after almost a month in Bangladesh (security issues permitting) but lack of spinner will probably cost England in India. Hameed getting lots of mentions for the opener slot with Telegraph claiming Jack Leach will be the third spinner.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 24, 2016 19:45:24 GMT
ODIs underway.
And England look set for a win in the first game.
Straightforward so far and following form; bowling looks good (great to see Wood back), catching not up to scratch and the batting it's normal mixed bag.
The big question is why do we still pick Morgan. He looks completely shot. Scores too slowly, very tentative. And managed to run out Root. There is no way he hould br in the team denying the likes of Bairstow a place. His time has come and gone.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 20:14:50 GMT
ODIs underway. And England look set for a win in the first game. Straightforward so far and following form; bowling looks good (great to see Wood back), catching not up to scratch and the batting it's normal mixed bag. The big question is why do we still pick Morgan. He looks completely shot. Scores too slowly, very tentative. And managed to run out Root. There is no way he hould br in the team denying the likes of Bairstow a place. His time has come and gone. I agree completely about Morgan - when he first burst onto the scene I thought he was really aggressive and attacking but now he just seems too frightened to attack. Looks like England were going to win fairly easily before the rain intervened and now with the D/L score of 252 it's fairly academic as we should win either way.
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 29, 2016 21:27:20 GMT
Telegraph reckon Haseeb Hameed will be going to Bangladesh to open with Cook, he's a proper batsman, hope it's not too soon for him at test level.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 22:31:20 GMT
Telegraph reckon Haseeb Hameed will be going to Bangladesh to open with Cook, he's a proper batsman, hope it's not too soon for him at test level. You could actually play a shed load of spin options and still have a decent batting line up on Bangladesh: Cook Hameed Borthwick Root Bairstow Stokes Ansari Ali Woakes Rashid Wood Rest Broad and Anderson as they both have injuries, 3 quicks, 2 leggies a left arm and an orthodox spinner can all share the load!!
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 30, 2016 6:24:11 GMT
Telegraph reckon Haseeb Hameed will be going to Bangladesh to open with Cook, he's a proper batsman, hope it's not too soon for him at test level. You could actually play a shed load of spin options and still have a decent batting line up on Bangladesh: Cook Hameed Borthwick Root Bairstow Stokes Ansari Ali Woakes Rashid Wood Rest Broad and Anderson as they both have injuries, 3 quicks, 2 leggies a left arm and an orthodox spinner can all share the load!! And Root too! Being England I reckon we might be a bit more conservative, Borthwick has fallen out of form at the wrong time so it looks like Bell will be back and Leach is getting a few shouts as the spinner now. Quickies will be interesting Woakes is probably the certainity, so going to be 3 from wood \ stokes \ broad and jimmy. You'd think Wood has to play for his extra pace but will his fitness hold up, could be Stokes missing out. Cook Hameed Root Ali Bell Bairstow Woakes 3 from Stokes \ Wood \ Broad and Anderson Leach
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 30, 2016 16:58:52 GMT
Blimey.
3rd ODI v Pakistan.
England innings just concluded.
444-3
That's worth repeating.
444-3
Absolutely sensational. The biggest ODI score ever.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 17:25:22 GMT
Fantastic performance with the bat - even Morgan hit a rapid 50 odd. Can't see Pakistan being able to come anywhere near that score.
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Post by Inverness Stokie on Aug 30, 2016 22:19:27 GMT
Thought I would post this here.
I'm travelling to India in November, coincides with the India test series.
Has anyone been away with England and bought tickets?
I'm not sure if I have to go through the India Cricket Council or if I can buy them off a website? Or if I can pay on the gate?
Any tips would be grateful.
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 31, 2016 6:19:38 GMT
Thought I would post this here. I'm travelling to India in November, coincides with the India test series. Has anyone been away with England and bought tickets? I'm not sure if I have to go through the India Cricket Council or if I can buy them off a website? Or if I can pay on the gate? Any tips would be grateful. Yes i've been to Australia twice for the Ashes, I think for India you'll have no problem paying on the gate for tests, massive grounds but little interest in test matches. ODI's will be much more difficult. Best to check ECB and Barmy Army websites from vague memory some mentions on Twitter of India not having announced venues yet but that might have changed.
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 31, 2016 6:22:41 GMT
Blimey. 3rd ODI v Pakistan. England innings just concluded. 444-3 That's worth repeating. 444-3 Absolutely sensational. The biggest ODI score ever. Amazing batting, probably too late for Hales unless he does it again. Just a shame they couldn't run the four of the last ball before getting run out to make it 444-4 to follow up Pakistan 2-2 off 2.2 overs in the previous match!
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Post by AlliG on Aug 31, 2016 9:11:25 GMT
Blimey. 3rd ODI v Pakistan. England innings just concluded. 444-3 That's worth repeating. 444-3 Absolutely sensational. The biggest ODI score ever. Amazing batting, probably too late for Hales unless he does it again. Just a shame they couldn't run the four of the last ball before getting run out to make it 444-4 to follow up Pakistan 2-2 off 2.2 overs in the previous match! Not quite sure what is expected from Hales in ODIs. His last 10 ODI innings are 99, 65, 50, 112, 4, 133*, 0, 7, 14, 171 at an average of 72.7. Good luck at finding someone better!
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Post by Inverness Stokie on Aug 31, 2016 10:06:15 GMT
Thought I would post this here. I'm travelling to India in November, coincides with the India test series. Has anyone been away with England and bought tickets? I'm not sure if I have to go through the India Cricket Council or if I can buy them off a website? Or if I can pay on the gate? Any tips would be grateful. Yes i've been to Australia twice for the Ashes, I think for India you'll have no problem paying on the gate for tests, massive grounds but little interest in test matches. ODI's will be much more difficult. Best to check ECB and Barmy Army websites from vague memory some mentions on Twitter of India not having announced venues yet but that might have changed. The venues have all been announced, think I will be going to Mohali for the 3rd test. I am travelling India from November to December and it falls in place pretty well. Thanks for the top on the Barmy Army forum, loads of details on there regarding tickets etc.
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 31, 2016 12:12:21 GMT
Amazing batting, probably too late for Hales unless he does it again. Just a shame they couldn't run the four of the last ball before getting run out to make it 444-4 to follow up Pakistan 2-2 off 2.2 overs in the previous match! Not quite sure what is expected from Hales in ODIs. His last 10 ODI innings are 99, 65, 50, 112, 4, 133*, 0, 7, 14, 171 at an average of 72.7. Good luck at finding someone better! Sorry, I was talking about for the tests in India, I think he's in the ODI team for a while.
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 3, 2016 6:22:46 GMT
4-0 with one to play tomorrow in Cardiff
After a well matched test series, the ODIs have proved to be something of a mismatch. No doubt this is down to Pakistan being poor, but it shouldn't mask the fact that England are close to being awesome in this format. Explosive batting right down the order and a wonderful mix of pace and spin. The only area for improvement is in the fielding (which is disappointing, but easily fixed) and the continued selection of a captain because he is the captain rather than being the best batsmen. Meaning, Morgan is keeping Bairstow out of the side.
This is an awesome 11. I reckon it will be the first team to post a score of 500 in an ODI.
Roy Hayles Root Bairstow Stokes Butler Ali Woakes Plunkett Rashid Wood
And there is plenty in reserve.
Happy days for England
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 22:36:43 GMT
No 5-0 whitewash , what a pity .....a fine performance from the boys nevertheless .
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