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Post by Davef on Nov 6, 2015 12:47:53 GMT
Fair play, he's got a point. Greg Dykes response - it goes back into football at grass roots level - a bit more clarity wouldn't go amiss . Well done Tone The FA's annual reports and financial statements are freely available on line. I think it's quite clear that they spend more money on grassroots football and charity donations than they receive in fines from professional footballers and managers.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Nov 6, 2015 13:06:19 GMT
Greg Dykes response - it goes back into football at grass roots level - a bit more clarity wouldn't go amiss . Well done Tone I don't believe a word of it. The FA is a corrupt organization set up to line the pockets of the crooks that run it and offer protection to a chosen few Premier League clubs. Chelsea are now in the same boat as the rest of us, getting a bit of 'special attention' from the old boys at HQ. Pulis was bang on to challenge them, a moral dilemma is sure to put them on the spot, and Tone comes out of it all with clear conscience and a Teflon coating !! FA, it's your move !! As the supporters' rep on the FA Council I have many criticisms of the way the FA is run. But I don't believe for a moment that it is corrupt; that crooks run it; that the people who run it line their pockets or that it "offers protection" to a chosen few Premier League clubs. I have never seen any evidence of any of those things and I don't think it helps supporters to make such unfounded allegations. There is, and never has been, any secret about what happens to FA fines - they go into the general pot to be used on the things which the FA, which is of course non profit making, does, including the development of the game at all levels. As Davef says, the accounts are not secret. The FA has made the forthcoming England game against France into a fund-raising event in aid of breast cancer charities. I suspect that TP knows all this full well, and that this is a bit of a publicity stunt on his behalf. That said, I have great respect for the charity work he does.
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Nov 6, 2015 13:11:34 GMT
I don't believe a word of it. The FA is a corrupt organization set up to line the pockets of the crooks that run it and offer protection to a chosen few Premier League clubs. Chelsea are now in the same boat as the rest of us, getting a bit of 'special attention' from the old boys at HQ. Pulis was bang on to challenge them, a moral dilemma is sure to put them on the spot, and Tone comes out of it all with clear conscience and a Teflon coating !! FA, it's your move !! As the supporters' rep on the FA Council I have many criticisms of the way the FA is run. But I don't believe for a moment that it is corrupt; that crooks run it; that the people who run it line their pockets or that it "offers protection" to a chosen few Premier League clubs. I have never seen any evidence of any of those things and I don't think it helps supporters to make such unfounded allegations. There is, and never has been, any secret about what happens to FA fines - they go into the general pot to be used on the things which the FA, which is of course non profit making, does, including the development of the game at all levels. As Davef says, the accounts are not secret. The FA has made the forthcoming England game against France into a fund-raising event in aid of breast cancer charities. I suspect that TP knows all this full well, and that this is a bit of a publicity stunt on his behalf. That said, I have great respect for the charity work he does. I take on board all you've said mate. I still think however, that the FA singles out 'certain' clubs for preferential treatment, whilst offering others little to no protection. As you say though, fair play to Tone for the work he does for charity.
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Post by shakey on Nov 6, 2015 13:15:12 GMT
Goes into a Zurich bank account under the name of S Blatter!
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Post by Titan Uranus on Nov 6, 2015 14:02:11 GMT
Asked the FA to pay his fine money £8k to the Donna Louise He must be in line for an OBE soon.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 6, 2015 19:24:54 GMT
Interesting support for his challenge he knows and signed up for the rules if I was Greg dyke I'd be tempted to say .
Firstly descent fine doubled to 16k one more word and its doubled again , we realise you have no interest in developing young players but we do , if your that bothered about Donna Louise an admirable cause of cours give em another 8 k yourself , as our charitable donations are substantial and a matter of public record now shut up manage west brom and behave.
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Post by iamcliveclarke on Nov 6, 2015 21:51:31 GMT
PULIS FUCKING OUT!!!
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Nov 6, 2015 23:01:40 GMT
TP was one of our greatest managers and his views must be respected and given consideration. in. Yes! He truly is the Messiah!
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Post by njkk on Nov 6, 2015 23:24:04 GMT
Can't we have a Sub-Board for "All Things Pulis" so the Rimmers & Wankstains can carry on ripping the sheight out of each other on there instead of clogging the main board up with TP stuff, he's not ours anymore its time we moved on?
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Post by march4 on Nov 7, 2015 0:46:39 GMT
Asked the FA to pay his fine money £8k to the Donna Louise He must be in line for an OBE soon. It will be a Knighthood.
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Post by kustokie on Nov 7, 2015 2:53:04 GMT
Foreign players. It does take a while for them to bed in and in some cases its a huge gamble. You could argue that all our summer signings have yet to impress and we are relying on players who have been at the club for a while so far this season as the new players have contributed little in my view. Thank goodness Ryan's back, along with Butland we have a solid combination there and we are starting to concede less and keep clean sheets. Arnie, Diouf and SJW are our main threat still going forward and even Bojan is misfiring a little but Glen remains a rock for us. Don't read me wrong I am not here to shout up for Pulis his time came and went and I love watching us now it's not about that, but bringing in foreign players into our climate and culture and expecting them to get on with it may not be the best option as a complete transfer policy I think we need tried and tested players from these islands in order to maintain a little bit of steel in the side. It was thanks to Butland we managed to secure a point yesterday and again I didn't see much from our new players, some of who I am very disappointed with so far if I am honest and I can only imagine it is because they aren't settling in as we know they are talented individuals. Whelan took a while to shine too. I dont think it matters what land you come from, but more to do with the individual. None of our summer signings, in my opinion, have improved the side though - like you say. To a degree, for me, Hughes has to try and prove he can build a new side by himself. Whereas Pulis picked his players based on character, Hughes will always go for talent and skill, even if they lack character and dont want to play for us. Character is making Pulis sides unrelegatable, but he struggles to entertain and take his side to the next level, wheras as Hughes sides are more purist and pleasing on the eye, but when he gets it wrong it could potentially be a disaster, if he can get it right then we could potentially hit the heights of the 70's. We lost 3 talented players from our squad this summer and apart from our goalkeeper the others have not been anywhere near replaced. He has to try and fight to keep his best players, he should no pursue characters that dont want to play for us and he needs to prove he can buy players with a bit of bite and determination and a natural born leader, his purchases are normally decent footballers, but all a bit passive and this spills through to the terraces. It was a very poor window for us and a poor pre-season too and the side lacks a bit of direction. I am not sure where Hughes is going with the current squad and we desperately need some grit and quality down the spine of our side. We ended the season with such optimism and, for me, were not far off a regular top half team, but this season we have gone backwards - which is frustrating more than anything else I assume by "3 talented players" you mean Bego, N'zonzi and Moses. Butland is defintely an upgrade and we did better in the second half of the season without Moses, who wasn't ours to start with. So the only real loss is N'zonzi, who is a quality player but grit isn't something that I would say was his strong point. Also, we were a house built of straw if we believe our success was dependent on one player.
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Post by blackpoolred on Nov 7, 2015 10:13:05 GMT
Whelan took a while to shine too. I dont think it matters what land you come from, but more to do with the individual. None of our summer signings, in my opinion, have improved the side though - like you say. To a degree, for me, Hughes has to try and prove he can build a new side by himself. Whereas Pulis picked his players based on character, Hughes will always go for talent and skill, even if they lack character and dont want to play for us. Character is making Pulis sides unrelegatable, but he struggles to entertain and take his side to the next level, wheras as Hughes sides are more purist and pleasing on the eye, but when he gets it wrong it could potentially be a disaster, if he can get it right then we could potentially hit the heights of the 70's. We lost 3 talented players from our squad this summer and apart from our goalkeeper the others have not been anywhere near replaced. He has to try and fight to keep his best players, he should no pursue characters that dont want to play for us and he needs to prove he can buy players with a bit of bite and determination and a natural born leader, his purchases are normally decent footballers, but all a bit passive and this spills through to the terraces. It was a very poor window for us and a poor pre-season too and the side lacks a bit of direction. I am not sure where Hughes is going with the current squad and we desperately need some grit and quality down the spine of our side. We ended the season with such optimism and, for me, were not far off a regular top half team, but this season we have gone backwards - which is frustrating more than anything else I assume by "3 talented players" you mean Bego, N'zonzi and Moses. Butland is defintely an upgrade and we did better in the second half of the season without Moses, who wasn't ours to start with. So the only real loss is N'zonzi, who is a quality player but grit isn't something that I would say was his strong point. Also, we were a house built of straw if we believe our success was dependent on one player. No - the three I had in mind was Huth, Bego & Nzonzi. I know Huth did not play last year, but what a player to have in your squad when needed, players of his quality do not come round to often and wont be cheap for Stoke to replace - could not understand why he was let go to our rivals so easily, especially in light of the fact we had no intention of replacing him and were short in this position. For me Muni, Cameron and Wilson are poor replacements and yes lack the grit and determination of a player like Huth. Nzonzi covered every blade of grass, helped going forward and at the back and also was good with the ball at his feet. He is massively missed, had a great season last year, hence being the player of the season - his energy, commitment and quality is being missed and has left a gaping hole in that midfield position Hughes new signings, for me, have been a bit benign and uninspiring and all much of a muchness. All his players, as stated, are good with the ball at their feet, but he needs to start bringing in a couple of hard hitters and leaders. Nzonzi, Huth gone this year and if Whelan, Shawcross and Walters were to move on next year, what type of player would they be replaced with? For quite a few years now there has always been talk of a few of our players moving on to bigger and better things, but we have always some how managed to keep them. So it came as a bit of a shock to lose 3 in one season. 2 I can understand, but Huth was a mystery to me. Hughes has been a great manager for us, but for me personally, leaves me worried about the future of our team - when match of the day pundits say our central defenders were bullied(re Watford) It does leave me thinking we have gone from 1 extreme to another and quickly need to re-address the balance.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 11:00:39 GMT
He must be in line for an OBE soon. It will be a Knighthood. Well it certainly wouldn't be for his services to football.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 12:13:24 GMT
Well it certainly wouldn't be for his services to football. It will be if he takes West Brom down.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 12:15:25 GMT
Well it certainly wouldn't be for his services to football. It will be if he takes West Brom down. Ha ha very true
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 7, 2015 16:00:22 GMT
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Post by underdog on Nov 7, 2015 17:09:15 GMT
Another Pulis classic performance today. Fuck all posession, 4 shots, none on target. Thank fuck we dunner av watch that dross any more
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Post by Linx on Nov 8, 2015 12:08:34 GMT
Yesterday was just a little bit in the finest traditions of Mr Pulis' philosophy. Superb defensive work, with a well-marshalled back four and a defensive midfield, and a couple of flair players to create the opportunities to score on the break. Even our defence of set-pieces looks like LMH has been boning up on Mr Pulis' Big Compendium of How to Work 'Ard and Win With a Cage. All we needed was a big centre forward to nod down a few crosses and punts and it would have been 2008 all over again. We're even having a bit of a binary season in terms of results........ .
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Post by metalhead on Nov 8, 2015 12:24:53 GMT
Yesterday was just a little bit in the finest traditions of Mr Pulis' philosophy. Superb defensive work, with a well-marshalled back four and a defensive midfield, and a couple of flair players to create the opportunities to score on the break. Even our defence of set-pieces looks like LMH has been boning up on Mr Pulis' Big Compendium of How to Work 'Ard and Win With a Cage. All we needed was a big centre forward to nod down a few crosses and punts and it would have been 2008 all over again. We're even having a bit of a binary season in terms of results........ . Is this another one of those, we won because of Tony moments?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 8, 2015 12:24:52 GMT
Yesterday was just a little bit in the finest traditions of Mr Pulis' philosophy. Superb defensive work, with a well-marshalled back four and a defensive midfield, and a couple of flair players to create the opportunities to score on the break. Even our defence of set-pieces looks like LMH has been boning up on Mr Pulis' Big Compendium of How to Work 'Ard and Win With a Cage. All we needed was a big centre forward to nod down a few crosses and punts and it would have been 2008 all over again. We're even having a bit of a binary season in terms of results........ . Is this another one of those, we won because of Tony moments? Clearly not.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Nov 8, 2015 12:28:39 GMT
Hughes is a pragmatic manager at his best and yesterday his tactics were spot on , I thought they would take us apart when i saw his team but we managed to get the points , he now needs to devise a system to play at home against the sides who come and sit back
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Post by metalhead on Nov 8, 2015 12:28:43 GMT
Is this another one of those, we won because of Tony moments? Clearly not. I know, I just wanted the OP to make a knob of himself.... If he hasn't already.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 8, 2015 12:30:41 GMT
I know, I just wanted the OP to make a knob of himself.... If he hasn't already. such a twat.
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Post by milky on Nov 8, 2015 12:32:10 GMT
Apart from the fact that at least three players started yesterday that I doubt Tone would have had any where near the club
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Nov 10, 2015 18:13:48 GMT
Getting a hammering on talk sport at the minute. Dinosaur, a different sport etc.
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Post by werrington on Nov 10, 2015 18:29:44 GMT
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Post by mattador78 on Nov 10, 2015 18:31:49 GMT
Getting a hammering on talk sport at the minute. Dinosaur, a different sport etc. Thats bollox and unfair hes left this club far better off than he had any right too and crystal palace the same. Many foreign and domestic managers have tried to match the success of pulis in our time in the prem and many have failed but jose and van gaal dont play much different to pulis ball at its best solid at the back quick breaks nippy wingers and a big man up front the difference is how effective the team is at producing it. Unfortunately what ultimately cost him his job here was he seemed scared to set his sights higher after the cup final.
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Post by mattador78 on Nov 10, 2015 18:37:57 GMT
Just read the comments to this article and someones having a pop at stoke wtf
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 18:42:00 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Nov 10, 2015 18:56:59 GMT
Agreed. Never a fan of Durham. He writes click bait, but can anyone actually argue with his article? Yes, he left stoke in a much better state than when he arrived and we owe much of our current position to him. However, the last season under his management was extremely tiring. It was hard work. I have some family friends who are West Brom fans. Six months ago, they loved him and tore me apart when I suggested Abou Diaby was a typical Pulis signing (injury prone, ageing, high wage, and probably won't fit into their system). Now? Football under Pulis is the worst they've ever witnessed as long time supporters. They were visibly embarrassed about the way they beat us and didn't dish out anywhere near the stick they would have usually. Tony is a safe bet for relegation survival. I won a few quid when he kept Palace up, but he doesn't seem to carry a team on. It's as if he has already assumed relegation is inevitable which for a solid team like West Brom is nuts.
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