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Post by gingerninja on Jan 26, 2016 23:03:13 GMT
Sign him up.. the boy has something. Reminds me a little of David Platt as he glides late into the box. Despite Crouch doing ok I feel Joselu would have offered us more up top
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 23:03:42 GMT
I like him as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 23:04:42 GMT
I'd sign him in a flash. I'd have sorted a deal out in August if it was in the offing.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 26, 2016 23:05:23 GMT
Could have put us through....Real shame his shot hit the post!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 23:05:50 GMT
Agreed, sign him up before he actually comes good for us and doubles his value.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 23:06:34 GMT
He's shit though, don't forget. The Oatcake said so.
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Post by stokiemarc on Jan 26, 2016 23:06:47 GMT
Adam going off did us a favour, he was so unlucky not to score.
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Post by march4 on Jan 26, 2016 23:07:42 GMT
Excellent prospect.
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Post by mamasbitch on Jan 26, 2016 23:08:06 GMT
Only one that can read Crouches flick ons apparently
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Post by dieguito88 on Jan 26, 2016 23:13:37 GMT
i'd sign him cause is a mix of all our midfielders, youngest and could improve a lot.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 26, 2016 23:45:02 GMT
Thought he looked very good tonight and on another night could have got 2. He looks like with games he'll get better. At the right price he's definitely worth pursuing.
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Post by jarhead on Jan 27, 2016 1:54:54 GMT
Always liked him summat about him.
Good energy levels in midfield.
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Post by wembley4372 on Jan 27, 2016 2:02:54 GMT
His biggest problem is who do you drop in order to play him.
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Post by jezzascfc on Jan 27, 2016 2:25:05 GMT
MvG gave us an extra dimension from midfield that Adam would not - he is a far better athlete and can break late into the box like a Lampard or (as mentioned above) Platt. If he improves his game awareness (ie when to stay, when to go) he will give us a very good option in there for when we want to play three proper midfielders in the centre of the park.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 4:47:23 GMT
I'd be looking to sign him too, but I wonder if he'd think twice about joining us - where does he fit into our starting XI?
He's a tidy player and a great athlete, and makes great runs into the box. However he does need to demonstrate that he can stick those chances away on a regular basis, but I think that would come with a run in the team.
Still the question of who makes way. He's not as creative as Bojan, not as tidy in possession as Affelay, not as good defensively as Cameron; and add Arnie, Joselu, Walters and Shaq and there are a few in the squad who might quite fancy the midfield/advanced midfielder/second striker role too.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 27, 2016 9:43:29 GMT
The more he has played the better and more confident he has become. There is an excellent player in there, it may be that past injuries have damped his confidence affecting his play. A risk worth taking as he is way ahead of Ireland.
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Post by icelandpotter on Jan 27, 2016 9:47:24 GMT
I like Marco too, particularly his confidence in the tackle. Can't beat a crunching midfield tackle from Marco
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 9:56:10 GMT
I'd be looking to sign him too, but I wonder if he'd think twice about joining us - where does he fit into our starting XI? He's a tidy player and a great athlete, and makes great runs into the box. However he does need to demonstrate that he can stick those chances away on a regular basis, but I think that would come with a run in the team. Still the question of who makes way. He's not as creative as Bojan, not as tidy in possession as Affelay, not as good defensively as Cameron; and add Arnie, Joselu, Walters and Shaq and there are a few in the squad who might quite fancy the midfield/advanced midfielder/second striker role too. Completely agree. It is a difficult one as he would ultimately be a squad player that would need to take any chances he got (he also needs to work/improve his positioning too, but that can come by playing with good players and working with good coaches, which we have here). When MvG had a small run in the side at the start of the season I think we played more a 4-1-4-1 in recognition that he's not really a CDM and is better in a more forward position; some of his thru-balls and late runs into the box are quite Lampard-esque. He does seem to lack the same technique in front of goal as Lampard though! Like you say, he's essentially competing with Afellay and Cameron, and Adam to a certain extent, for one midfield slot (none of the aforementioned do what Whelan does). He's clearly got the potential but really can't work out how he breaks into the first XI consistently. If Adam and Cameron were to move on though, it might be a different story.
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Post by foster on Jan 27, 2016 10:21:22 GMT
He's shit though, don't forget. The Oatcake said so. To be fair, our results when he has started games have been shit. It's not 'The Oatcake', it's facts. If he continues to improve then fair enough, but don't bullshit like he's been decent since day 1.
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Post by jeycov on Jan 27, 2016 10:27:48 GMT
His biggest problem is who do you drop in order to play him. He's one for the not too distant future imo surely surplus to Chelsea's plans
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jan 27, 2016 11:00:49 GMT
Honestly given the fact hes Chelseas player, gonna cost a fair whack and hasnt pulled up any trees.
I would prefer to see someone like Shenton given his place in the squad and on the bench.
Homegrown, bags of potential, and will be happy to get a few minutes here and there.
MVG had the chance to become a hero last night and fluffed the chance again. Im not a fan
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 27, 2016 11:16:32 GMT
Honestly given the fact hes Chelseas player, gonna cost a fair whack and hasnt pulled up any trees. I would prefer to see someone like Shenton given his place in the squad and on the bench. Homegrown, bags of potential, and will be happy to get a few minutes here and there. MVG had the chance to become a hero last night and fluffed the chance again. Im not a fan What are your views on Walters miss first half then if MVG fluffed his lines?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jan 27, 2016 11:23:11 GMT
Honestly given the fact hes Chelseas player, gonna cost a fair whack and hasnt pulled up any trees. I would prefer to see someone like Shenton given his place in the squad and on the bench. Homegrown, bags of potential, and will be happy to get a few minutes here and there. MVG had the chance to become a hero last night and fluffed the chance again. Im not a fan What are your views on Walters miss first half then if MVG fluffed his lines? Was an even worse miss he should have scored. But Walters has enough credit in the bank, hes scored goals and won us games before. I just find this a strange thread when I dont see what MVG has actually contributed to Stoke City over the whole season so far. Can anyone tell me?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 27, 2016 11:29:36 GMT
What are your views on Walters miss first half then if MVG fluffed his lines? Was an even worse miss he should have scored. But Walters has enough credit in the bank, hes scored goals and won us games before. I just find this a strange thread when I dont see what MVG has actually contributed to Stoke City over the whole season so far. Can anyone tell me? I think most are acknowledging that he hasn't contributed as much as both he himself and we all hoped he would. That doesn't hide the fact that he is a player of enormous potential. He's a great athlete, he can do a bit of everything in midfield, he is a goal threat (if he gets one, a few will follow) and his first touch ALWAYS takes him forward. At times he has flashes of the pre-injury "John Eustace" about him. He's 22 years old and whilst we might not see it in a Stoke shirt, I fully expect him to go on to become a very good player. If we could get him on the cheap, courtesy of his loan not going all that swimmingly, I'd sign him in a heartbeat.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jan 27, 2016 11:36:54 GMT
Was an even worse miss he should have scored. But Walters has enough credit in the bank, hes scored goals and won us games before. I just find this a strange thread when I dont see what MVG has actually contributed to Stoke City over the whole season so far. Can anyone tell me? I think most are acknowledging that he hasn't contributed as much as both he himself and we all hoped he would. That doesn't hide the fact that he is a player of enormous potential. He's a great athlete, he can do a bit of everything in midfield, he is a goal threat (if he gets one, a few will follow) and his first touch ALWAYS takes him forward. At times he has flashes of the pre-injury "John Eustace" about him. He's 22 years old and whilst we might not see it in a Stoke shirt, I fully expect him to go on to become a very good player. If we could get him on the cheap, courtesy of his loan not going all that swimmingly, I'd sign him in a heartbeat. you think? He does seem the glide into the penalty area late a'la Lampard. But his shooting has been absolutely woeful. In midfield he looks more like a Joe Allen continuity type player. Doesnt really tackle hard and makes simple passes to his team-mates. The guy has some talent and a good engine but I dont see him making it in the Premier League with us or anybody else. Bookmark this thread for 5 years davejohnno when he wins the Champions League with Chelsea and Ill gladly admit I was hasty. My prediction is he'll end up back in Eredivisie in 2 years and have an average career there
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Post by march4 on Jan 27, 2016 11:39:41 GMT
MVG is going to be a top player in 5 years time.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 27, 2016 11:42:56 GMT
I think most are acknowledging that he hasn't contributed as much as both he himself and we all hoped he would. That doesn't hide the fact that he is a player of enormous potential. He's a great athlete, he can do a bit of everything in midfield, he is a goal threat (if he gets one, a few will follow) and his first touch ALWAYS takes him forward. At times he has flashes of the pre-injury "John Eustace" about him. He's 22 years old and whilst we might not see it in a Stoke shirt, I fully expect him to go on to become a very good player. If we could get him on the cheap, courtesy of his loan not going all that swimmingly, I'd sign him in a heartbeat. you think? He does seem the glide into the penalty area late a'la Lampard. But his shooting has been absolutely woeful. In midfield he looks more like a Joe Allen continuity type player. Doesnt really tackle hard and makes simple passes to his team-mates. The guy has some talent and a good engine but I dont see him making it in the Premier League with us or anybody else. Bookmark this thread for 5 years davejohnno when he wins the Champions League with Chelsea and Ill gladly admit I was hasty. My prediction is he'll end up back in Eredivisie in 2 years and have an average career there I most definitely think yes. I think he has loads of potential. If we could get him for less than 5m, he will prove to be an absolute bargain.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jan 27, 2016 11:49:47 GMT
MVG is going to be a top player in 5 years time. What happens in the interim? Let's sign him now in case he becomes a world beater at 27. For us to sign him I'd let Adam and Ireland go and still look to sign someone like Imbula and a more defensive midfielder.
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Post by foster on Jan 27, 2016 11:50:20 GMT
Hits the post for us and all of a sudden he's a future superstar.
Why do people assume that he'd sign for us even if we tried to get him on a permanent deal.
He's gotten better as the season has progressed but I'd want to see more before trying to sign him.
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Post by stoneroses on Jan 27, 2016 11:55:54 GMT
I think most are acknowledging that he hasn't contributed as much as both he himself and we all hoped he would. That doesn't hide the fact that he is a player of enormous potential. He's a great athlete, he can do a bit of everything in midfield, he is a goal threat (if he gets one, a few will follow) and his first touch ALWAYS takes him forward. At times he has flashes of the pre-injury "John Eustace" about him. He's 22 years old and whilst we might not see it in a Stoke shirt, I fully expect him to go on to become a very good player. If we could get him on the cheap, courtesy of his loan not going all that swimmingly, I'd sign him in a heartbeat. you think? He does seem the glide into the penalty area late a'la Lampard. But his shooting has been absolutely woeful. In midfield he looks more like a Joe Allen continuity type player. Doesnt really tackle hard and makes simple passes to his team-mates. The guy has some talent and a good engine but I dont see him making it in the Premier League with us or anybody else. Bookmark this thread for 5 years davejohnno when he wins the Champions League with Chelsea and Ill gladly admit I was hasty. My prediction is he'll end up back in Eredivisie in 2 years and have an average career there For his age he has absolutely everything, quick, pass, timing of runs, tackles, heads box to box.. He will go to the very top, which ever club lends him the time and patience will be laughing by the time he is 24-25. I would bet everything I own that the last thing he will be doing is having average career in the eridivisie, he was already the best player in that league at 18.
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