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Post by ColonelMustard on Jan 16, 2016 23:54:20 GMT
as I remember it after being nearly safe in december when the remarks were made we couldn't buy a result into the new year and the first string lost the game at home - we had a huge game following which form says we were could be losing after a Thursday night in the Europa - it wasn't a surprise at all when the team came through - anyone surprised hadn't worked him out at all
Edit- and its anything but bottling it, it might show disdane for what the fans want but it was him doing what he thought was best no matter how unpopular
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Jan 16, 2016 23:57:19 GMT
as I remember it after being nearly safe in december when the remarks were made we couldn't buy a result into the new year and the first string lost the game at home - we had a huge game following which form says we were could be losing after a Thursday night in the Europa - it wasn't a surprise at all when the team came through - anyone surprised hadn't worked him out at all The following game was home against Swansea I think.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Jan 17, 2016 0:01:48 GMT
as I remember it after being nearly safe in december when the remarks were made we couldn't buy a result into the new year and the first string lost the game at home - we had a huge game following which form says we were could be losing after a Thursday night in the Europa - it wasn't a surprise at all when the team came through - anyone surprised hadn't worked him out at all The following game was home against Swansea I think. Which in the Pulis mind is as big as it gets assuming they were also "in the mix"
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Post by BristolMick on Jan 17, 2016 1:17:05 GMT
We took over 7,000, you are correct. Not sure of the exact amount. The team we put out did us proud but I was so pissed at TP for the side he put out. I really think had we put our strongest side out we'd have gone through. Pissed at TP? That doesn't make sense. Did you go on the piss with Pulis after the game, or were you pissed off with him for taking a reserve team? Or are you just introducing inane fucking Americanisms to our language? 24/7 365 SCFC BM
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 17, 2016 1:23:33 GMT
The Bench was
01 Begovic 30 Shotton 16 Pennant 44 Dawson
Only 3 outfield players and one was Dawson!
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Post by chigstoke on Jan 17, 2016 1:45:17 GMT
If i remember the team right, Salif Diao was in center back with Huth and Woodgate. We had Delap and Collins as left and right backs. Danny fucking Collins.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 17, 2016 2:11:14 GMT
as I remember it after being nearly safe in december when the remarks were made we couldn't buy a result into the new year and the first string lost the game at home - we had a huge game following which form says we were could be losing after a Thursday night in the Europa - it wasn't a surprise at all when the team came through - anyone surprised hadn't worked him out at all Edit- and its anything but bottling it, it might show disdane for what the fans want but it was him doing what he thought was best no matter how unpopular Do you honestly believe we wouldn't have got the points required in the remaining three months of the season?
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 17, 2016 2:15:41 GMT
as I remember it after being nearly safe in december when the remarks were made we couldn't buy a result into the new year and the first string lost the game at home - we had a huge game following which form says we were could be losing after a Thursday night in the Europa - it wasn't a surprise at all when the team came through - anyone surprised hadn't worked him out at all Edit- and its anything but bottling it, it might show disdane for what the fans want but it was him doing what he thought was best no matter how unpopular It was a crap decision and an insult to us all, especially the thousands who made the trip to Spain. Inexcusably negative and indicative of the lack of ambition which eventually led to his departure.
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Post by senojbor on Jan 17, 2016 2:31:36 GMT
I remember coming to book everything, the planning, the thought, the excitement of me and my mates going to watch Stoke at European and Spanish giants Valencia in a competitive game where we had a realistic chance of getting even further, then in the days building up to the match rumours about the squad that would travel circulated, but we were all to excited to be ruffled about it. Then after a fucking brilliant night in Barcelona the night before, we woke up, hungover but running on adrenaline, buzzing our tits off. We drove to Valencia in great spirits Only on arrival at the main square did we realise that dickbrain Pulis had sent the B team because Premier League safety was more important. What a load of bollocks. It ruined the trip. Yeah we had a fantastic day out and it was great to see so many Stokies there. But the bottom line was, hundreds if not thousands of stokies saved up for that trip especially and put every effort to go over there and support the lads in red n white with the hope of overturning the first leg. Only to be greeted by TP sending a massively under strength team. Never forgive him for that, and he went down in my estimation massively that day. (and has done even more so since.. But that's another story) So I'll finally say a big fat fuck you Pulis. Hughes will get us into Europe and when he does I'll be 100% confident he'll throw the kitchen sink at it for the fans! Fuck off you went for a piss up and a good time. Pulis did everything in the interest of SCFC.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 17, 2016 3:28:35 GMT
I remember coming to book everything, the planning, the thought, the excitement of me and my mates going to watch Stoke at European and Spanish giants Valencia in a competitive game where we had a realistic chance of getting even further, then in the days building up to the match rumours about the squad that would travel circulated, but we were all to excited to be ruffled about it. Then after a fucking brilliant night in Barcelona the night before, we woke up, hungover but running on adrenaline, buzzing our tits off. We drove to Valencia in great spirits Only on arrival at the main square did we realise that dickbrain Pulis had sent the B team because Premier League safety was more important. What a load of bollocks. It ruined the trip. Yeah we had a fantastic day out and it was great to see so many Stokies there. But the bottom line was, hundreds if not thousands of stokies saved up for that trip especially and put every effort to go over there and support the lads in red n white with the hope of overturning the first leg. Only to be greeted by TP sending a massively under strength team. Never forgive him for that, and he went down in my estimation massively that day. (and has done even more so since.. But that's another story) So I'll finally say a big fat fuck you Pulis. Hughes will get us into Europe and when he does I'll be 100% confident he'll throw the kitchen sink at it for the fans! Fuck off you went for a piss up and a good time. Pulis did everything in the interest of SCFC. He did what he considered to be in the best interest of SCFC but in the end what he considered to be in our best interests was proving damaging.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 17, 2016 9:44:51 GMT
I remember coming to book everything, the planning, the thought, the excitement of me and my mates going to watch Stoke at European and Spanish giants Valencia in a competitive game where we had a realistic chance of getting even further, then in the days building up to the match rumours about the squad that would travel circulated, but we were all to excited to be ruffled about it. Then after a fucking brilliant night in Barcelona the night before, we woke up, hungover but running on adrenaline, buzzing our tits off. We drove to Valencia in great spirits Only on arrival at the main square did we realise that dickbrain Pulis had sent the B team because Premier League safety was more important. What a load of bollocks. It ruined the trip. Yeah we had a fantastic day out and it was great to see so many Stokies there. But the bottom line was, hundreds if not thousands of stokies saved up for that trip especially and put every effort to go over there and support the lads in red n white with the hope of overturning the first leg. Only to be greeted by TP sending a massively under strength team. Never forgive him for that, and he went down in my estimation massively that day. (and has done even more so since.. But that's another story) So I'll finally say a big fat fuck you Pulis. Hughes will get us into Europe and when he does I'll be 100% confident he'll throw the kitchen sink at it for the fans! Fuck off you went for a piss up and a good time. Pulis did everything in the interest of SCFC. There was no need for him to do it.
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Post by werrington on Jan 17, 2016 9:52:22 GMT
I remember coming to book everything, the planning, the thought, the excitement of me and my mates going to watch Stoke at European and Spanish giants Valencia in a competitive game where we had a realistic chance of getting even further, then in the days building up to the match rumours about the squad that would travel circulated, but we were all to excited to be ruffled about it. Then after a fucking brilliant night in Barcelona the night before, we woke up, hungover but running on adrenaline, buzzing our tits off. We drove to Valencia in great spirits Only on arrival at the main square did we realise that dickbrain Pulis had sent the B team because Premier League safety was more important. What a load of bollocks. It ruined the trip. Yeah we had a fantastic day out and it was great to see so many Stokies there. But the bottom line was, hundreds if not thousands of stokies saved up for that trip especially and put every effort to go over there and support the lads in red n white with the hope of overturning the first leg. Only to be greeted by TP sending a massively under strength team. Never forgive him for that, and he went down in my estimation massively that day. (and has done even more so since.. But that's another story) So I'll finally say a big fat fuck you Pulis. Hughes will get us into Europe and when he does I'll be 100% confident he'll throw the kitchen sink at it for the fans! Fuck off you went for a piss up and a good time. Pulis did everything in the interest of SCFC. He did it in the best interests of Tony Pulis ...He was/is only interested in his £1m+ bonus he gets every season for survival We had 32 points going into that game and he didn't back HIS expensively assembled squad to get his mythical 40 points DISGRACEFUL and with still 3 months of the season remaining
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Post by lordb on Jan 17, 2016 10:04:30 GMT
Quite a few managers have done similar things.
It always leads to mass disaffection in the support.
As such it's a stupid thing to do.
Hughes is a different kind of manager (not just to Pulis), seems clear he is desperate to have a go against foreign teams.
We need to make Europe this year or next to keep Hughes.
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Post by djduncanjames on Jan 17, 2016 10:17:38 GMT
Wasn't every away game in Europe followed by an away game in the league? Remember Tony moaning about it and wanting help from the FA
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 17, 2016 10:31:14 GMT
as I remember it after being nearly safe in december when the remarks were made we couldn't buy a result into the new year and the first string lost the game at home - we had a huge game following which form says we were could be losing after a Thursday night in the Europa - it wasn't a surprise at all when the team came through - anyone surprised hadn't worked him out at all Edit- and its anything but bottling it, it might show disdane for what the fans want but it was him doing what he thought was best no matter how unpopular What was the excuse for shitting himself in the FA Cup final held in May? The one where we never had a go and went down to the tamest of tame 1..0 defeats? The one where the mighty Wigan showed us how to go about a cup final a year later.
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Post by werrington on Jan 17, 2016 10:36:56 GMT
Wasn't every away game in Europe followed by an away game in the league? Remember Tony moaning about it and wanting help from the FA Why would he complain ? I went to a Thun Istanbul and Valencia and he played the 2nd string in all of them with the first 11 not even travelling
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Post by ColonelMustard on Jan 17, 2016 10:39:05 GMT
as I remember it after being nearly safe in december when the remarks were made we couldn't buy a result into the new year and the first string lost the game at home - we had a huge game following which form says we were could be losing after a Thursday night in the Europa - it wasn't a surprise at all when the team came through - anyone surprised hadn't worked him out at all Edit- and its anything but bottling it, it might show disdane for what the fans want but it was him doing what he thought was best no matter how unpopular Do you honestly believe we wouldn't have got the points required in the remaining three months of the season? In the same way when we booked outlr trips it looked odds on wed be going with the shackles offbut we picked up next to nothing. Anyway I didnt defend the decision. I just said it was absolutely no surprise. If the players had managed a few points post Christmas it would have been different. It would have been interesting what he would have done had we won the firstleg.
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Post by skip on Jan 17, 2016 10:42:02 GMT
He as good as threw the tie. Disgraceful.
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Post by djduncanjames on Jan 17, 2016 10:46:36 GMT
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Post by tony harrison on Jan 17, 2016 10:53:09 GMT
Thats the where he said it sorted but what did he say? Judging by the OP somthing along the lines of Stoke is a good club and Pulis shit on the fans by taking a weak team to Valencia There or there abouts Regards Spot on, brilliant trip let down by Pulis and his team selection.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 17, 2016 10:57:21 GMT
We all say 40m pointes but it rarely needs that many. QPR stayed up with 37 in 2012. By definition he didn't trust himself to get 5 points from the remaning games.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 17, 2016 11:07:27 GMT
We all say 40m pointes but it rarely needs that many. QPR stayed up with 37 in 2012. By definition he didn't trust himself to get 5 points from the remaning games. Crikey Joe 40 million points? That's a bit of a steep target.
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Post by werrington on Jan 17, 2016 11:15:53 GMT
I never said he never said it mate ....I asked why he would as the main squad never travelled so they wouldn't be affected
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Post by djduncanjames on Jan 17, 2016 11:16:58 GMT
I never said he never said it mate ....I asked why he would as the main squad never travelled so they wouldn't be affected I know fella, I thought I would post it for the sake of discourse.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Jan 17, 2016 11:18:00 GMT
as I remember it after being nearly safe in december when the remarks were made we couldn't buy a result into the new year and the first string lost the game at home - we had a huge game following which form says we were could be losing after a Thursday night in the Europa - it wasn't a surprise at all when the team came through - anyone surprised hadn't worked him out at all Edit- and its anything but bottling it, it might show disdane for what the fans want but it was him doing what he thought was best no matter how unpopular What was the excuse for shitting himself in the FA Cup final held in May? The one where we never had a go and went down to the tamest of tame 1..0 defeats? The one where the mighty Wigan showed us how to go about a cup final a year later. a very disappointing day for everyone but Im failing to see any connection other than we lost
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Post by djduncanjames on Jan 17, 2016 11:19:10 GMT
Werrington it just demonstrates there was always an excuse, always something holding us back from any glimmer of expectation.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 17, 2016 11:19:37 GMT
Do you honestly believe we wouldn't have got the points required in the remaining three months of the season? In the same way when we booked outlr trips it looked odds on wed be going with the shackles offbut we picked up next to nothing. Anyway I didnt defend the decision. I just said it was absolutely no surprise. If the players had managed a few points post Christmas it would have been different. It would have been interesting what he would have done had we won the firstleg. There was still no need for him to do it though. We had three months of the season left. It was ludicrous.
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Post by Davef on Jan 17, 2016 11:19:50 GMT
Fuck off you went for a piss up and a good time. Pulis did everything in the interest of SCFC. He did it in the best interests of Tony Pulis ...He was/is only interested in his £1m+ bonus he gets every season for survival We had 32 points going into that game and he didn't back HIS expensively assembled squad to get his mythical 40 points DISGRACEFUL and with still 3 months of the season remaining We were actually on 30 points going into the Valencia second leg mate, but your point is still valid and is one that Merson made on the Saturday after the game. 37 points (or 36 with a better goal difference than -31!) kept you up that season, and we were on 36 after the win against Norwich the week after we beat Swansea!
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Post by ColonelMustard on Jan 17, 2016 11:19:59 GMT
Wasn't every away game in Europe followed by an away game in the league? Remember Tony moaning about it and wanting help from the FA Why would he complain ? I went to a Thun Istanbul and Valencia and he played the 2nd string in all of them with the first 11 not even travelling Exactly. It was absolutely no surprise what happened in Valencia. The only way we were taking the first team was if we were over 40 points
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 17, 2016 11:23:55 GMT
What was the excuse for shitting himself in the FA Cup final held in May? The one where we never had a go and went down to the tamest of tame 1..0 defeats? The one where the mighty Wigan showed us how to go about a cup final a year later. a very disappointing day for everyone but Im failing to see any connection other than we lost Depends on your point of view. If you wish to lay every misfortune that ever affected Stoke at Pulis's feet then clearly he was to blame for failing to win that FA Cup Final. And probably to blame for the fact that we've never won the FA Cup.
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