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Post by Billy the kid on Dec 7, 2015 22:30:07 GMT
Fuck the dirty bastards, they hate us, I hate them, would love to see them fold just so I could say thank the fuck for that. Born in 84 lived through the grief.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 7, 2015 22:34:57 GMT
Fuck the dirty bastards, they hate us, I hate them, would love to see them fold just so I could say thank the fuck for that. Born in 84 lived through the grief. If Pervez had not bailed the scrounging bastards out with public money they would have gone long ago, fuck the wankers.
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Post by Billy the kid on Dec 7, 2015 23:15:43 GMT
Fuck the dirty bastards, they hate us, I hate them, would love to see them fold just so I could say thank the fuck for that. Born in 84 lived through the grief. If Pervez had not bailed the scrounging bastards out with public money they would have gone long ago, fuck the wankers. Totally with you on that. The whinging little fags whinge about the council bailing us out with the stadium, but they got paid back, and had lucrative contracts on the back off of it. They got peddled a load of cash for next to fuck all in return, The only down point of vale folding would be we would have to find another club to piss our knickers at.... .cue Aston Villa.
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Post by Miles Offside on Dec 7, 2015 23:20:00 GMT
I think the Vale owe millions to their current owner, the Council and possibly other creditors, and they're losing thousands every week.
The only possible buyer I could see would be a Vale fan who had the money to keep the club afloat in the knowledge that he's unlikely ever to get it back.
And, other than Robbie Williams, I can't think who that might be.
A business consortium would want to know what they'd get back on their investment, so that looks unlikely.
And a buy-out by the fans would only be an option if there was a massive write-off of debts (unlikely) and the club could be sustained in a lower Division.
They're in real trouble.
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Post by dutchpeter72 on Dec 8, 2015 3:59:27 GMT
It's an open forum you muppet. It doesn't matter who you're asking. Stoke fans went to Vale park long before I did and fans will go down (providing they don't fold) long after. Again, the amount of petulant insults towards them and the fact you can't give a reasonable reply does indeed say more about you. I fail to understand how people can carry such hate for a club and their fans that are now so ridiculously far behind us. For what it's worth I'd absolutely love to go back to 94-95 and experience a derby when we were both at level footing just once more. You want to go back to 94-95!? Looked like relegation fodder until February, a revival in the spring saved us. Absolute dog shit season.
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Post by Bagwash on Dec 8, 2015 4:58:30 GMT
It's an open forum you muppet. It doesn't matter who you're asking. Stoke fans went to Vale park long before I did and fans will go down (providing they don't fold) long after. Again, the amount of petulant insults towards them and the fact you can't give a reasonable reply does indeed say more about you. I fail to understand how people can carry such hate for a club and their fans that are now so ridiculously far behind us. For what it's worth I'd absolutely love to go back to 94-95 and experience a derby when we were both at level footing just once more. I disagree with almost everything you have posted,mrred, except for the fact that it is an open forum and you are entitled to your opinion. What you shouldn't be doing is posting on a STOKE board, name calling fellow Stokies and defending our unwashed neighbours on a STOKE board. For my own part I was there in the 90's and witnessed the crap they were spouting when they finished above us for a few seasons and would not shed a tear if they perhaps,didn't fold but dropped down another couple of divisions. There is still a hell of a lot of hatred from the vale fans but it doesn't bother me one iota.
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Post by f1rew0rks on Dec 8, 2015 8:07:38 GMT
In the 70' and 80's harmony existed between the 2 clubs and the annual pre season friendly was a family day out and fans mingled with each other. Funny, I remember some proper ding dongs, olbas oil, a couple of times knives being pulled, bricks and rocks, going in the Vale part of the ground and general tear ups all around. yep ... thats the matches I remember.
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Post by StokieSC on Dec 8, 2015 8:08:49 GMT
Time for a reprise of this...
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Post by mrred on Dec 8, 2015 9:51:03 GMT
It's an open forum you muppet. It doesn't matter who you're asking. Stoke fans went to Vale park long before I did and fans will go down (providing they don't fold) long after. Again, the amount of petulant insults towards them and the fact you can't give a reasonable reply does indeed say more about you. I fail to understand how people can carry such hate for a club and their fans that are now so ridiculously far behind us. For what it's worth I'd absolutely love to go back to 94-95 and experience a derby when we were both at level footing just once more. I disagree with almost everything you have posted,mrred, except for the fact that it is an open forum and you are entitled to your opinion. What you shouldn't be doing is posting on a STOKE board, name calling fellow Stokies and defending our unwashed neighbours on a STOKE board. For my own part I was there in the 90's and witnessed the crap they were spouting when they finished above us for a few seasons and would not shed a tear if they perhaps,didn't fold but dropped down another couple of divisions. There is still a hell of a lot of hatred from the vale fans but it doesn't bother me one iota. Again, I haven't come on here to outright support Vale, I've come on here as someone clearly a little more level headed than some of you lot that are happy to have hate boiling away in the back of your mind for a club with absolutely no relevance to us, and haven't for the last what, 11 years? Maybe the yearning for derby days stems from football as a kid, when everything was that bit better through young eyes and the excitement of the unknown that came with it.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 8, 2015 10:14:02 GMT
We cant own another club outright in the English leagues BUT
I would suggest we use Vale as a proper feeder club we can send our youngsters out on loan to get some real experience.
The likes of Ollie Shenton would be better served spending a season there rather than the nothing U21 games that we try to organise.
Its a no-brainer really. Vale need better players but cant afford them. We need to give our youngsters some game time. Perfect bridge between the academy and our first team.
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Post by Gods on Dec 8, 2015 10:32:06 GMT
I disagree with almost everything you have posted,mrred, except for the fact that it is an open forum and you are entitled to your opinion. What you shouldn't be doing is posting on a STOKE board, name calling fellow Stokies and defending our unwashed neighbours on a STOKE board. For my own part I was there in the 90's and witnessed the crap they were spouting when they finished above us for a few seasons and would not shed a tear if they perhaps,didn't fold but dropped down another couple of divisions. There is still a hell of a lot of hatred from the vale fans but it doesn't bother me one iota. Again, I haven't come on here to outright support Vale, I've come on here as someone clearly a little more level headed than some of you lot that are happy to have hate boiling away in the back of your mind for a club with absolutely no relevance to us, and haven't for the last what, 11 years? Maybe the yearning for derby days stems from football as a kid, when everything was that bit better through young eyes and the excitement of the unknown that came with it. I don't agree with the out and out hatred but I am happy that we poke fun at them. I am not sure you can say they have no relevance to us today though. I fancy they still effectively have about one third of our catchment area for supporters tied up. Yes I know they get more like one quarter of our gates but to compare like with like you have to consider what Vale would get in the Prem or us in Division 1 and then I think you would get to about one third. Add the 15,000 or so Vale would get in the Prem to our gates today and we would all of a sudden have Sunderland type attendances. So not immediate rivals in a football sense but they sure as heck matter to us.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 8, 2015 10:46:12 GMT
We cant own another club outright in the English leagues BUT I would suggest we use Vale as a proper feeder club we can send our youngsters out on loan to get some real experience. The likes of Ollie Shenton would be better served spending a season there rather than the nothing U21 games that we try to organise. Its a no-brainer really. Vale need better players but cant afford them. We need to give our youngsters some game time. Perfect bridge between the academy and our first team. Why in God's name would we want Stoke City associated in any way with a club that relies on bail outs from the Council, lest we forget this is a club that has resorted to administration twice, how many business's have they damaged in the process.
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Post by foster on Dec 8, 2015 10:48:38 GMT
Again, I haven't come on here to outright support Vale, I've come on here as someone clearly a little more level headed than some of you lot that are happy to have hate boiling away in the back of your mind for a club with absolutely no relevance to us, and haven't for the last what, 11 years? Maybe the yearning for derby days stems from football as a kid, when everything was that bit better through young eyes and the excitement of the unknown that came with it. I don't agree with the out and out hatred but I am happy that we poke fun at them. I am not sure you can say they have no relevance to us today though. I fancy they still effectively have about one third of our catchment area for supporters tied up. Yes I know they get more like one quarter of our gates but to compare like with like you have to consider what Vale would get in the Prem or us in Division 1 and then I think you would get to about one third. Add the 15,000 or so Vale would get in the Prem to our gates today and we would all of a sudden have Sunderland type attendances. So not immediate rivals in a football sense but they sure as heck matter to us. How would plan on convincing them to support us? My guess is that they'd start supporting Man United.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 8, 2015 10:53:38 GMT
The whole situation can be summed up in one paragraph, and that is:
If this situation was the other way round the Valeites would be absolutely pissing themselves and wanting nothing more than for us to fold, indeed if you gave them the choice of achieving promotion to the Championship or Stoke going out of business they'd pick the latter every single time, such is their worrying obsession with seeing us fail rather than their own team succeed, so for me the fuckers can go into administration, get liquidated, get sold on I don't really care, they're a ship that is definitely on its way to the bottom and will not last much longer.
Good riddance.
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Post by Fenparkpotter on Dec 8, 2015 10:57:57 GMT
We cant own another club outright in the English leagues BUT I would suggest we use Vale as a proper feeder club we can send our youngsters out on loan to get some real experience. The likes of Ollie Shenton would be better served spending a season there rather than the nothing U21 games that we try to organise. Its a no-brainer really. Vale need better players but cant afford them. We need to give our youngsters some game time. Perfect bridge between the academy and our first team. Nice idea but imagine the vitriol from the Vale fans towards Stoke players playing for them. One misplaced pass and they'd be given both barrels, could be very damaging to a young players confidence! Didn't the Icelanders once try to buy the Vale? Might come back in so that Gudjon can walk into a job!
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Post by bubbleblower on Dec 8, 2015 11:53:41 GMT
At one time the company i worked for did a lot of work at the vale so i spent a lot of time there during the late 80s and most of the 90s. most of the people who worked there knew i was a stokie and we had friendly banter until about 91 when there attitude changed. One day i was working in the club shop above the ceiling when i over heard the then club secretary ( think his name was Bill Loade ) the club shop manager and some other guy talking about Stoke, the bile that was coming out of them was unreal i jumped down my steps and confronted them, Bill went bright red but the other carried on. In the end i ending up being restrained by two work mates and never worked there again (my choice) Bill did apologise, but since then I have no time for them what so ever and hope they go out of businesses. I see so many people at the Brit these days who I know are Fail fans maybe we've had the last laugh, what would they do if it was happening to us?
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Post by Davef on Dec 8, 2015 12:23:40 GMT
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Post by GlennA on Dec 8, 2015 12:27:37 GMT
If you want a local football club and business to cease to exist then that's your prerogative, but can people please stop saying 'I was there in the 90s' as if they fought in the fucking Boer War?
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Post by kentpotter on Dec 8, 2015 12:33:16 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 8, 2015 12:34:33 GMT
If you want a local football club and business to cease to exist then that's your prerogative, but can people please stop saying 'I was there in the 90s' as if they fought in the fucking Boer War? I was there in the 90's
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Post by Ayupshag on Dec 8, 2015 12:34:09 GMT
Time for a reprise of this... That's hilarious. What a fuckin melt he is in that video. Never seen anything so cringeworthy
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Post by Ayupshag on Dec 8, 2015 12:36:28 GMT
If you want a local football club and business to cease to exist then that's your prerogative, but can people please stop saying 'I was there in the 90s' as if they fought in the fucking Boer War? I was there in the 90s in the Waterloo Road war.
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Post by Bagwash on Dec 8, 2015 12:39:26 GMT
If you want a local football club and business to cease to exist then that's your prerogative, but can people please stop saying 'I was there in the 90s' as if they fought in the fucking Boer War? I was there in the 90's And me
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2015 12:55:56 GMT
I'm sorry. I don't want the great unwashed to go bust. it's part of Stoke on Trent. Why would you wish death on them ? GD Did you live in Stoke in the 90's ?, maybe the way they behaved when they had their brief period above us would explain many people's feelings towards the feckers. No, I left Stoke in the very early 80's. So they took this piss. I don't blame them. We were shite and they were punching above their weight. Ultimately at the end of the day I have way more respect for a delusional Vale fan than I do for some cunt 'up hanley duck' wearing his Shit, Chelsea or Man City shirt. GD
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 8, 2015 13:00:24 GMT
Did you live in Stoke in the 90's ?, maybe the way they behaved when they had their brief period above us would explain many people's feelings towards the feckers. No, I left Stoke in the very early 80's. So they took this piss. I don't blame them. We were shite and they were punching above their weight. Ultimately at the end of the day I have way more respect for a delusional Vale fan than I do for some cunt 'up hanley duck' wearing his Shit, Chelsea or Man City shirt. GD No that explains why then.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2015 13:08:35 GMT
No, I left Stoke in the very early 80's. So they took this piss. I don't blame them. We were shite and they were punching above their weight. Ultimately at the end of the day I have way more respect for a delusional Vale fan than I do for some cunt 'up hanley duck' wearing his Shit, Chelsea or Man City shirt. GD No that explains why then. Not really, I maintained contact with Stoke my family live there and still going home and away, (I lived in Stafford). I didn't leave the UK till 1993 and even then came back regulary. I am surprised a certain moderator hasn't taken the piss out of me yet with my Vale 'sympathies' GD
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Post by eddyclamp on Dec 8, 2015 13:10:20 GMT
We cant own another club outright in the English leagues BUT I would suggest we use Vale as a proper feeder club we can send our youngsters out on loan to get some real experience. The likes of Ollie Shenton would be better served spending a season there rather than the nothing U21 games that we try to organise. Its a no-brainer really. Vale need better players but cant afford them. We need to give our youngsters some game time. Perfect bridge between the academy and our first team. That would make sense . But I feel Uncle Peter like many in here has a long memory and remembers the shit that came his way . Never once has he ever looked like throwing the vale a bone. So I reckon he and his football club are in the fuck `em group as well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2015 13:11:41 GMT
I was there in the 90s in the Waterloo Road war. The Middleport Massacre? The Hassel Street hammering? No wonder they're so bitter.
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Post by eddyclamp on Dec 8, 2015 13:15:11 GMT
I was there in the 90s in the Waterloo Road war. The Middleport Massacre? The Hassel Street hammering? No wonder they're so bitter. Don`t forget the Moorland Road Mellee
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Post by lordb on Dec 8, 2015 13:15:33 GMT
One of the best things that could happen to Stoke City moving forward would be for these no hopers to go bust. Would probably put 5-10K on our crowds within a decade as the youngsters coming through would have no choice other than to jump on the SCFC bandwagon rather than being brainwashed into a life of no hope by their die hard parents Vale allegiance. Supply and Demand basically. In the 70' and 80's harmony existed between the 2 clubs and the annual pre season friendly was a family day out and fans mingled with each other. Then they had their 5 minutes of glory above us and wished nothing but ill upon us and laughed at our financial plight. They had zero sympathy for us and everyone of the feckers hoped we would die a slow agonising painful death. But what goes around, goes around and now the historical pecking order has very much returned, as we all deep down knew it would, lest we forget folk lest we forget! Bradford used to have two clubs Bradford Park Avenue fans did not start support Bradford City once they went bust However their kids did Might take longer than a decade but no longer than two Personally I don’t want them to go bust Down into non-league for a generation though…
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