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Post by Miles Offside on Nov 29, 2015 23:34:39 GMT
after years of supporting stoke through thick n thin,i have decided that this season is my last as a season tkt holder.i hope we get to wembley again this season so i can sign off on a high.the first few seasons in the prem were pure bliss,sadly the reality is now hitting home,i have slowly realised that the stoke i supported as a boy for 40 odd years is now gone forever,this prem bollox is too sanatised ,void of any real connection with the citys working class,too many average johnny foreigners picking up a fat wage from a club they feel nowt for,all seater stadiums where i am obliged to sit among people i would normally avoid outside the ground.i know that its not stokes fault,its just how footy is nowadays,its just not for me. raytupper,signing out There can't be many Stoke fans who haven't felt at times that they've had enough - and God knows that there have been plenty of reasons (besides the ones you've set out) over the years to feel like this. But I wouldn't paint myself into a corner if I were you - hang on to your notice for a while, keep it in your back pocket. Have a look at the alternatives and think about the good stuff - which, I know, doesn't come round often enough - and you might just change your mind. And fair dooes if you don't.
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Post by madnellie on Nov 30, 2015 1:39:16 GMT
I can see where the OP is coming from, I dislike this "modern football" crap too, but to be honest, going to watch Stoke is one of the few things I miss about the UK. I loved it before the Prem and I love it just as much now, watching on TV just doesn't compare.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Nov 30, 2015 1:43:11 GMT
I can see where the OP is coming from, I dislike this "modern football" crap too, but to be honest, going to watch Stoke is one of the few things I miss about the UK. I loved it before the Prem and I love it just as much now, watching on TV just doesn't compare. +1 The OP should try seeing 2 to 3 games live every couple of years & see how it feels. Take every chance you can to enjoy yourself, you're a long time fucking dead!
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Post by kustokie on Nov 30, 2015 1:46:29 GMT
Mr Coke An outstanding post ! Yours, too, Benji.
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 30, 2015 3:28:43 GMT
Turned into quite a good thread this.
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Post by kustokie on Nov 30, 2015 3:34:11 GMT
Turned into quite a good thread this. Could go on all season, if we have too many performances like yesterday! Sorry, just kidding.
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Post by stokeramblers on Nov 30, 2015 8:27:53 GMT
It all seems very melodramatic to me! It sounds like it's never really been about the 'football' for this chap. I mean football wise were approaching a peak in SCFC history right now.. Seemingly more important is the camaraderie of local working class men both on & off the pitch. A local club for local people There's nothing for you here average Johnny Foreigner* *Excluding Diouf, Bojan, Arnie, Pieters, Shaqiri, Muniesa, Wollschied, Haugaard You can stay as you're all slightly better than average
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Post by kentpotter on Nov 30, 2015 12:07:56 GMT
You don't mean it Ray. No, really you don't, simply because nobody can just walk away from forty years of their life like that, it's impossible. Nice little cup run and a couple of games against some hated rivals and you'll be a right as rain mar mate. Hang on in there, you know it's worth it, supposing you'd quit in '84-'85?
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Post by nott1 on Nov 30, 2015 12:41:22 GMT
What a fool, just as we are on the verge of greatness!
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Nov 30, 2015 13:17:30 GMT
Read all about it!
Read all about it!
Aging human adult in "Football/Music/Television/Cinema/Pornography/[insert pastime] was better back in my youth than it is today" shocker!!
But seriously, don't pack it in. You'll regret it.
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Post by tonytriffic on Nov 30, 2015 14:21:14 GMT
after years of supporting stoke through thick n thin,i have decided that this season is my last as a season tkt holder.i hope we get to wembley again this season so i can sign off on a high.the first few seasons in the prem were pure bliss,sadly the reality is now hitting home,i have slowly realised that the stoke i supported as a boy for 40 odd years is now gone forever,this prem bollox is too sanatised ,void of any real connection with the citys working class,too many average johnny foreigners picking up a fat wage from a club they feel nowt for,all seater stadiums where i am obliged to sit among people i would normally avoid outside the ground.i know that its not stokes fault,its just how footy is nowadays,its just not for me. raytupper,signing out I think you've been on the Garys all weekend... You'll be orate come Wednesday!!!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 30, 2015 14:27:00 GMT
(wave)
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Nov 30, 2015 15:24:53 GMT
My family have received their orders for my dying wish. When I pop my cloggs, hopefully aged 100 and with all my faculties - burn me in the latest Stoke home shirt. This Stokies will never quit... EVER !!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 17:02:52 GMT
I can see his point.
I spent all my time and money following Stoke through the 80's and 90's. It was great on the terraces, the football wasn't always the best but it was a good day out all the same.
I sit there now and see talented players cheating and diving, spending large parts of the game trying to entice a rash tackle so they can get a free kick on the edge of the box, other players too scared of putting a tackle in incase they get booked (or worse), players on extortionate wages who can't be bothered to put a shift in etc etc. It's football, but the modern game isn't what it was. Some things had to change, I accept that, but it's changed so much there's now something missing. It really isn't the working mans game anymore and I'm not entirely sure it's changed for the better.
I've watched Stoke since the early 70's, held season tickets regularly since I was 11, seen Stoke play on over 80 different grounds from non league to Premier league but since we arrived in the Premier league things changed for me. I no longer have a season ticket, only attend just over half the home games and maybe 2 or 3 aways ( if I'm lucky enough to get a ticket off someone as, despite all my years following Stoke, I don't belong to any of the 'buy your way in' exclusive clubs that have popped up in various guises and don't have enough credits to my name on their data base to get my own ).
In all honesty, in over 40 odd years of watching Stoke City I have never felt so disconnected from the club as I do now. Maybe it's just me who feels this way but I know of plenty of other regulars in the 80's and 90's who only attend on the same basis that I do. On the other hand, I know dozens of blokes who laughed at Stoke supporters and the club in those days who now travel to every game and hold season tickets.
Funny old game innit...
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 30, 2015 20:00:09 GMT
I can see his point. I spent all my time and money following Stoke through the 80's and 90's. It was great on the terraces, the football wasn't always the best but it was a good day out all the same. I sit there now and see talented players cheating and diving, spending large parts of the game trying to entice a rash tackle so they can get a free kick on the edge of the box, other players too scared of putting a tackle in incase they get booked (or worse), players on extortionate wages who can't be bothered to put a shift in etc etc. It's football, but the modern game isn't what it was. Some things had to change, I accept that, but it's changed so much there's now something missing. It really isn't the working mans game anymore and I'm not entirely sure it's changed for the better. I've watched Stoke since the early 70's, held season tickets regularly since I was 11, seen Stoke play on over 80 different grounds from non league to Premier league but since we arrived in the Premier league things changed for me. I no longer have a season ticket, only attend just over half the home games and maybe 2 or 3 aways ( if I'm lucky enough to get a ticket off someone as, despite all my years following Stoke, I don't belong to any of the 'buy your way in' exclusive clubs that have popped up in various guises and don't have enough credits to my name on their data base to get my own ). In all honesty, in over 40 odd years of watching Stoke City I have never felt so disconnected from the club as I do now. Maybe it's just me who feels this way but I know of plenty of other regulars in the 80's and 90's who only attend on the same basis that I do. On the other hand, I know dozens of blokes who laughed at Stoke supporters and the club in those days who now travel to every game and hold season tickets. Funny old game innit... Good post, I think a lot of views expressed in this thread should find their way to the Stoke board. Is there any mechanism to make that happen?
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Post by 1raytuper on Dec 1, 2015 22:50:20 GMT
just watched us get through to a semi final and feel bemused by the lack of passion in the seats around me,i honestly dont know why some "supporters" pay their money to sit in silence and expect to be entertained,i have absolutely nothing in common with this sort of "supporter" and sadly if i want to watch stoke live i have to endure the company of these modern day "pundits". i very much doubt i will regret my decision to call it a day.
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Post by tonytriffic on Dec 1, 2015 23:01:16 GMT
just watched us get through to a semi final and feel bemused by the lack of passion in the seats around me,i honestly dont know why some "supporters" pay their money to sit in silence and expect to be entertained,i have absolutely nothing in common with this sort of "supporter" and sadly if i want to watch stoke live i have to endure the company of these modern day "pundits". i very much doubt i will regret my decision to call it a day. Think we got the point pal... Goodbye, enjoy Tesco on Saturday!!!!
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Post by Skankmonkey on Dec 1, 2015 23:15:23 GMT
just watched us get through to a semi final and feel bemused by the lack of passion in the seats around me,i honestly dont know why some "supporters" pay their money to sit in silence and expect to be entertained,i have absolutely nothing in common with this sort of "supporter" and sadly if i want to watch stoke live i have to endure the company of these modern day "pundits". i very much doubt i will regret my decision to call it a day. I get yer point. I agree largely. There's much I find disagreeable about modern times and following the club. I'll not give up on Stoke though. Life is what you make of it. Move seats or summat! Come and sit with us in the Seddon. You are a long time dead mate.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 1, 2015 23:18:06 GMT
just watched us get through to a semi final and feel bemused by the lack of passion in the seats around me,i honestly dont know why some "supporters" pay their money to sit in silence and expect to be entertained,i have absolutely nothing in common with this sort of "supporter" and sadly if i want to watch stoke live i have to endure the company of these modern day "pundits". i very much doubt i will regret my decision to call it a day. I get yer point. I agree largely. There's much I find disagreeable about modern times and following the club. I'll not give up on Stoke though. Life is what you make of it. Move seats or summat! Come and sit with us in the Seddon. You are a long time dead mate. Ooh no we don't want his type in the Seddon. His moaning would spoil the taste of my prawn sandwiches.
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Post by miltonstokie on Dec 1, 2015 23:21:41 GMT
just watched us get through to a semi final and feel bemused by the lack of passion in the seats around me,i honestly dont know why some "supporters" pay their money to sit in silence and expect to be entertained,i have absolutely nothing in common with this sort of "supporter" and sadly if i want to watch stoke live i have to endure the company of these modern day "pundits". i very much doubt i will regret my decision to call it a day. Think I knew your sister Poppy ... She was right whinging moanbag too
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Post by bringmesunshine on Dec 1, 2015 23:27:36 GMT
just watched us get through to a semi final and feel bemused by the lack of passion in the seats around me,i honestly dont know why some "supporters" pay their money to sit in silence and expect to be entertained,i have absolutely nothing in common with this sort of "supporter" and sadly if i want to watch stoke live i have to endure the company of these modern day "pundits". i very much doubt i will regret my decision to call it a day. I know what you mean but its been going this way for a number of years, the atmosphere at the Watford game was dead but Chelsea was rocking and Sheffield Wednesday at home was hardly going to be a riotous occasion, however if you can't savour the fact that we have a real chance of actually winning a major competition for only the second time in our long history then maybe you should, as another poster put it, enjoy Tesco on a Saturday afternoon.
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Post by stokeramblers on Dec 1, 2015 23:59:01 GMT
Awkward conversation with the boss when we get to Wembley;
"So...that notice I handed in...can I have it back please...would it be at all possible to unhand it in...?"
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Post by 1raytuper on Dec 2, 2015 18:48:20 GMT
Awkward conversation with the boss when we get to Wembley; "So...that notice I handed in...can I have it back please...would it be at all possible to unhand it in...?" read my first post duck, i hope to finish off on a high,i am the total opposite to a "moaner" as a few of the misguided posters have typed.im not enjoying the match experience half as much as i used to,i actually think im attending now as a force of habit,too many passionless pundits in the stadium are spoiling the atmosphere.il avoid tesco at all cost,i do have other interests
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Post by nott1 on Dec 2, 2015 18:51:01 GMT
just watched us get through to a semi final and feel bemused by the lack of passion in the seats around me,i honestly dont know why some "supporters" pay their money to sit in silence and expect to be entertained,i have absolutely nothing in common with this sort of "supporter" and sadly if i want to watch stoke live i have to endure the company of these modern day "pundits". i very much doubt i will regret my decision to call it a day. Think we got the point pal... Goodbye, enjoy Tesco on Saturday!!!! Obviously under the wife's thumb big time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 18:52:52 GMT
I can see his point. I spent all my time and money following Stoke through the 80's and 90's. It was great on the terraces, the football wasn't always the best but it was a good day out all the same. I sit there now and see talented players cheating and diving, spending large parts of the game trying to entice a rash tackle so they can get a free kick on the edge of the box, other players too scared of putting a tackle in incase they get booked (or worse), players on extortionate wages who can't be bothered to put a shift in etc etc. It's football, but the modern game isn't what it was. Some things had to change, I accept that, but it's changed so much there's now something missing. It really isn't the working mans game anymore and I'm not entirely sure it's changed for the better. I've watched Stoke since the early 70's, held season tickets regularly since I was 11, seen Stoke play on over 80 different grounds from non league to Premier league but since we arrived in the Premier league things changed for me. I no longer have a season ticket, only attend just over half the home games and maybe 2 or 3 aways ( if I'm lucky enough to get a ticket off someone as, despite all my years following Stoke, I don't belong to any of the 'buy your way in' exclusive clubs that have popped up in various guises and don't have enough credits to my name on their data base to get my own ). In all honesty, in over 40 odd years of watching Stoke City I have never felt so disconnected from the club as I do now. Maybe it's just me who feels this way but I know of plenty of other regulars in the 80's and 90's who only attend on the same basis that I do. On the other hand, I know dozens of blokes who laughed at Stoke supporters and the club in those days who now travel to every game and hold season tickets. Funny old game innit... That's me GD
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 22:34:41 GMT
I think that if the truth be known, there are a lot of supporters that have resigned. This modern version of football (Sky & Premier League) isn't to everyone's taste. JCLs have taken up the slack though.
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Post by elystokie on Dec 3, 2015 8:49:23 GMT
I have to say, as an exile (155 miles) I treasure every game I get to see, I enjoy the games, just in a different way I suppose it's especially good this season cos my youngest is old enough for us to go for a beer before the game :)
It still seems pretty passionate where we sit, to me anyway, I'm loving some of the stuff we play and Bojan can be worth the entrance money on his own.
I haven't always had the time (shifts at weekends) or the money to get to every game and for a while in the mid to late 90s I listened to most games on t'internet or over the phone (mum put her phone next to the radio) so nowadays I feel privileged to get to as many games as I do.
Your call Mr Tuper but why not try a different part of the ground before you hang up your scarf?
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Post by stokiejoe on Dec 3, 2015 8:59:49 GMT
Believe me the years race by, the bad times will fade and if you perservere there will be lots of happy memories to look back on.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Dec 3, 2015 15:20:11 GMT
I have a great deal of sympathy for the OP and others who have expressed their reservations about the football on offer today. The truth is, and I've said it many times, what we now watch is a completely different sport altogether and, sad though many may find me, I preferred the version that was, to me, a much more 'rounded' game. As a young lad, like many others, I could be found outside the Vic's main entrance after every home game to talk to the players as they left, get autographs etc and I always believed that they were just like the rest of us but had a better job. The modern day pro is just so completely detached from the public and, even if I understand the reasons for that, it was better IMO when they weren't.
Having said all of the above, I'd like to think I'm at least a little realistic and people can only live in their own times. The game is where it is and I'd still much rather be watching today's football than not taking part at all. It pains me to see a game where the CHs see more of the ball, and make more passes that the 'creators' but that's where we're at and millions consider it 'good football'. It's still better than NO football.
I'm right with you Ray in many respects but, however hard it is to do, we have to accept what IS rather than longing for what WAS. The past can be a very wonderful place and we all love to visit there now and again but it's not a place that anyone should live in mate.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 15:29:05 GMT
I have a great deal of sympathy for the OP and others who have expressed their reservations about the football on offer today. The truth is, and I've said it many times, what we now watch is a completely different sport altogether and, sad though many may find me, I preferred the version that was, to me, a much more 'rounded' game. As a young lad, like many others, I could be found outside the Vic's main entrance after every home game to talk to the players as they left, get autographs etc and I always believed that they were just like the rest of us but had a better job. The modern day pro is just so completely detached from the public and, even if I understand the reasons for that, it was better IMO when they weren't. Having said all of the above, I'd like to think I'm at least a little realistic and people can only live in their own times. The game is where it is and I'd still much rather be watching today's football than not taking part at all. It pains me to see a game where the CHs see more of the ball, and make more passes that the 'creators' but that's where we're at and millions consider it 'good football'. It's still better than NO football. I'm right with you Ray in many respects but, however hard it is to do, we have to accept what IS rather than longing for what WAS. The past can be a very wonderful place and we all love to visit there now and again but it's not a place that anyone should live in mate. How long will the present version of the game be available though? Will the bubble eventually burst, and we get our old game back? I'm referring to top level football here. The football that is (IMO) insanely driven by £££s. If the bubble is going to burst, it can't come soon enough.
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