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Post by Pugsley on Sept 12, 2015 16:09:12 GMT
To all the mentally challenged out there in la la land, according to you all the manager is clueless and the players are shit.
What's the solution to get us out of the trouble you think we are in?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 12, 2015 16:11:13 GMT
Signing a centre back, central midfielder and fast left winger in the 2/3 months we had to do such things would have made it a tad better ah!
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 12, 2015 16:11:40 GMT
Get Cameron in midfield to shore thing up alongside Whelan.
Its not that we are losing the midfield battle. We are not even COMPETING in midfield.
When Arsenal have more fight than you its time to worry
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 12, 2015 16:12:24 GMT
Signing a centre back, central midfielder and fast left winger in the 2/3 months we had to do such things would have made it a tad better ah! That's not a solution, it's what we SHOULD of done. Come on you fuckers, you can do better than TfP
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Post by bertiestan on Sept 12, 2015 16:12:28 GMT
The manager isn't shit n neither are the players imo mate, 4 points at least out of the next two games n it will all settle down, we dropped a major bollock not signing a holding midfielder but we'll be ok.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 16:12:25 GMT
We just have to do everything to stay up
I think we are bottom five material. Too many changes too soon and Shakiri and Bojan are not firing yet.
Need the old guard back - Ryan and the likes of Walters.
Sorry all you Stokies who think we can turn into Barcelona just like that are dreaming.
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Post by bertiestan on Sept 12, 2015 16:14:07 GMT
The solution should be a raucous atmosphere at the Brit getting behind the lads, they'll know the next 2 games are massive.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 12, 2015 16:14:24 GMT
Signing a centre back, central midfielder and fast left winger in the 2/3 months we had to do such things would have made it a tad better ah! That's not a solution, it's what we SHOULD of done. Come on you fuckers, you can do better than TfP Which was obviously what we should have done and would have been a solution. He needs to start Ireland for a start, that's absolutely fucking mind blowingly stupid that he isn't. Bardsley today? Cameron on the right and Wilson. Fucked if I know what the solution is to the midfield hole. Praying? Pray that Van Ginkel can come good and find a spine?
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Post by Roger Everyone on Sept 12, 2015 16:15:20 GMT
Not worried at all, we will get going. People need to calm down.
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Post by Bowyer83 on Sept 12, 2015 16:15:48 GMT
Simple win the next two games and don't shit you pants looking at the league table after 5 games.
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Post by hchpotter on Sept 12, 2015 16:15:49 GMT
How about setting some time aside in training to learn how to defend against set pieces?
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Post by Jimm on Sept 12, 2015 16:15:41 GMT
Not replacing Nzonzi (the lazy, shit, mardarse) was criminal.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 12, 2015 16:16:20 GMT
I think the biggest problem is MH doesn't still know his best team and formation. There's almost too many options. For me it has to be 42321 with this lineup. He needs to stick with it injuries allowing
Jack
Glen Wilson Muni Eric
GCam Whelan
Shaq Bojan Arni
Diouf
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 12, 2015 16:18:17 GMT
I think the biggest problem is MH doesn't still know his best team and formation. There's almost too many options. For me it has to be 42321 with this lineup. He needs to stick with it injuries allowing Jack Glen Wilson Muni Eric GCam Whelan Shaq Bojan Arni Diouf What he said.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 12, 2015 16:19:42 GMT
He does need to play that but not with Bojan yet. Ireland has to play.
Hughes so far this season has been the biggest problem. It's been like having the capped one back with his team selections and subs. He's just been bizarre.
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Post by march4 on Sept 12, 2015 16:21:09 GMT
I think the biggest problem is MH doesn't still know his best team and formation. There's almost too many options. For me it has to be 42321 with this lineup. He needs to stick with it injuries allowing Jack Glen Wilson Muni Eric GCam Whelan Shaq Bojan Arni Diouf Sorry mate, that team is so physically weak, every other team will laugh at them. Even Arsenal were taking liberties today. LMH has got himself into a bit of a pickle here and he has to get the balance right between fancy and vicious.
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Post by metalhead on Sept 12, 2015 16:23:42 GMT
I don't for a second think we're relegation material and we'll prove it next week. I hope Bojan starts. He might not be fit enough for 9 minutes but if he can handle 60, he could well be the difference.
I would move Geoff into midfield though. Mvg needs time to settle.
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Post by metalhead on Sept 12, 2015 16:24:54 GMT
He does need to play that but not with Bojan yet. Ireland has to play. Hughes so far this season has been the biggest problem. It's been like having the capped one back with his team selections and subs. He's just been bizarre. The simple fact is Mark doesn't know his best team and results have gone against us
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 12, 2015 16:26:33 GMT
I don't think things are anywhere near as bad as are being painted but he has to get back to 4-2-3-1 and I honestly don't know what he's playing at by not doing.
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Post by Miles Offside on Sept 12, 2015 16:27:00 GMT
To all the mentally challenged out there in la la land, according to you all the manager is clueless and the players are shit. What's the solution to get us out of the trouble you think we are in? As everyone else is too thick to think straight, perhaps you could put us all out of our misery and tell us your solution. Edit: or too thick to spell "thick"
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 12, 2015 16:28:23 GMT
He does need to play that but not with Bojan yet. Ireland has to play. Hughes so far this season has been the biggest problem. It's been like having the capped one back with his team selections and subs. He's just been bizarre. The simple fact is Mark doesn't know his best team and results have gone against us His best team is imo pretty obvious. I don't know why he's trying to be clever.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 12, 2015 16:28:40 GMT
To all the mentally challenged out there in la la land, according to you all the manager is clueless and the players are shit. What's the solution to get us out of the trouble you think we are in? As everyone else is too think to think straight, perhaps you could put us all out of our misery and tell us your solution. Ooohhh precious.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 16:29:36 GMT
He does need to play that but not with Bojan yet. Ireland has to play. Hughes so far this season has been the biggest problem. It's been like having the capped one back with his team selections and subs. He's just been bizarre. Then what do you do when Ireland comes in and is Mr Inconsistency as usual?
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Post by Miles Offside on Sept 12, 2015 16:29:59 GMT
As everyone else is too think to think straight, perhaps you could put us all out of our misery and tell us your solution. Ooohhh precious. Not at all. Just waiting for your solution.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 12, 2015 16:29:42 GMT
I think the biggest problem is MH doesn't still know his best team and formation. There's almost too many options. For me it has to be 42321 with this lineup. He needs to stick with it injuries allowing Jack Glen Wilson Muni Eric GCam Whelan Shaq Bojan Arni Diouf Sorry mate, that team is so physically weak, every other team will laugh at them. Even Arsenal were taking liberties today. LMH has got himself into a bit of a pickle here and he has to get the balance right between fancy and vicious. The problem is March other than Ryan (injured) and maybe Walters who out of our current crop will make us physicaly stronger?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 12, 2015 16:30:14 GMT
He does need to play that but not with Bojan yet. Ireland has to play. Hughes so far this season has been the biggest problem. It's been like having the capped one back with his team selections and subs. He's just been bizarre. Then what do you do when Ireland comes in and is Mr Inconsistency as usual? He's in form and deserves a chance, just like Charlie, another 'mr inconsistent ' does when he's playing well.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Sept 12, 2015 16:30:28 GMT
No option but go with two defensive midfielders for most games. Cameron and Sidwell should be no where near a premierleague midfield but at least you notice they are on the pitch. Put Charlie in for the games at home against the smaller clubs. Struggle till january where on the 1st we sign a Midfielder and if Shawcross isn't back a centre half too. I'd even be tempted give Wilson a game at centre midfield.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 12, 2015 16:30:42 GMT
Not at all. Just waiting for your solution. I haven't got one. I think we're doomed.
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Post by stokemark on Sept 12, 2015 16:31:03 GMT
Too late now
We should have properly replaced Nzonzi - we are stuck with an alternative who, if he doesn't play, we have to pay his parent club £60,0000
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Post by MilanStokie on Sept 12, 2015 16:31:08 GMT
Today was just riddled with mistake after mistake.
- We seemed to play a 4-4-1-1 when Arnie and Shaqiri are not particularly your 'hug the touchline' type wingers and are wide forwards in a 4-3-3 or other.
- We then interchanged them all game so no one had a chance to settle. Ok do this when you are competing in the game, but we were overrun from the get go.
- Ireland should have started so we had a 3 man midfield, not Joselu trotting around like he did today, contributing nothing (not his fault).
- We then decided, for some ungodly reason, to play Arnie up top when Diouf was still on the pitch. I will never understand why.
- Bardsley should not have started, Cameron to RB and bring in Wollscheid or Wilson would have been the best move.
- Bojan came on and I still don't know what role he had. diouf should have stayed on, upfront and Bojan behind with Shaq and Arnie out wide. Van Ginkel or Whelan should have come off for Bojan to take the game to them. Ireland in CM with 1 of the 2.
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