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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 16:01:03 GMT
Of the league .
Have we been unlucky or do we have a big problem .?
I was told we would be top six material .
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Post by nutterpotter on Sept 12, 2015 16:05:58 GMT
No problem at present.
However, we could have a very big one if the next 2 home games don't go to plan.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 16:10:45 GMT
2 huge games coming up. If we're in the bottom 3 after those then yes we're in trouble. Imo we will get 6 points.
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Post by hchpotter on Sept 12, 2015 16:11:09 GMT
No problem?!
The three teams above us have a game in hand and the team above them is Chelsea.
We can't score, we can't defend set pieces, we get overrun in midfield. No problem
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Post by march4 on Sept 12, 2015 16:12:27 GMT
We are used to defeats - that is not the problem.
The problem is the nature of the defeats. We look so physically weak. Even Arsenal were taking liberties.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 12, 2015 16:15:51 GMT
We are used to defeats - that is not the problem. The problem is the nature of the defeats. We look so physically weak. Even Arsenal were taking liberties. Have you got this drivel on a permanent cut and paste? You've been saying EXACTLY the same thing for 3 years and you have and will be proved wrong again. Come on mate ffs. |
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Post by sportsman on Sept 12, 2015 16:16:36 GMT
Just on results if you break them down we've got three tough games on paper: Liverpool,and spurs and arsenal away. We pick up a point away at Norwich which is not the easiest place to go. Its the wba game that's done us.
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Bottom .
Sept 12, 2015 16:16:55 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Sept 12, 2015 16:16:55 GMT
Bit of both. We haven't replaced N'Zonzi and yet we're not using the players who could do a half decent job in that role.
And yes, we've been unlucky. Very unlucky to lose to Liverpool, could have beaten Spurs and Michael Olivier'd against West Brom.
For me, the season has to start next week with 3 points against Leicester.
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Post by stokeoptimist on Sept 12, 2015 16:18:50 GMT
Just on results if you break them down we've got three tough games on paper: Liverpool,and spurs and arsenal away. We pick up a point away at Norwich which is not the easiest place to go. Its the wba game that's done us. Where we had them wasting time with only nine men We had a bad day at the office, but when didn't we away at Arsenal? |
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Bottom .
Sept 12, 2015 16:19:21 GMT
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Post by philb on Sept 12, 2015 16:19:21 GMT
For me we have to simply get a win next week and ideally the next three home games need to wield a maximum nine.
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Bottom .
Sept 12, 2015 16:19:27 GMT
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Post by Dave the Rave on Sept 12, 2015 16:19:27 GMT
They always say you should judge the league table after 10 games.
Well, we're half way there and its looking grim.
The way we've played at home against average sides in the past has me incredibly worried about the next 2 home games.
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Bottom .
Sept 12, 2015 16:21:50 GMT
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Post by chicagostokie on Sept 12, 2015 16:21:50 GMT
They always say you should judge the league table after 10 games. Well, we're half way there and its looking grim. The way we've played at home against average sides in the past has me incredibly worried about the next 2 home games. Contradicted your own post. Judge after 10 games but after half of them you're worried. Why not wait for the next 5? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 16:23:47 GMT
The next two games are big. Honestly if we lose either then I'd say yes we are in trouble, I wouldn't think we will get relegated but I can imagine a bit of a battle. Which can in itself be really satisfying if you make it out of!  but I don't fancy taking the risk  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 12, 2015 16:24:48 GMT
Not arsed.
4 points from the next 2 games though is pretty vital.
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Bottom .
Sept 12, 2015 16:24:45 GMT
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Post by Dave the Rave on Sept 12, 2015 16:24:45 GMT
They always say you should judge the league table after 10 games. Well, we're half way there and its looking grim. The way we've played at home against average sides in the past has me incredibly worried about the next 2 home games. Contradicted your own post. Judge after 10 games but after half of them you're worried. Why not wait for the next 5? The first 5 games make up 50% of those 10. We'd need to have an awesome next 5 games to be where we want to be. Given our next two home games are against the sort of teams we've struggled against at home, I am indeed a little worried. |
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Post by MilanStokie on Sept 12, 2015 16:24:32 GMT
No problem?! The three teams above us have a game in hand and the team above them is Chelsea. We can't score, we can't defend set pieces, we get overrun in midfield. No problem Seriously? Are you 1 of the types that thinks after a team wins the 1st game they are title contenders regardless? Please think your reply through after seeing Palace sitting in 3rd. 2 wins after today and we could be top 10 already. Calm... down... |
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 12, 2015 16:25:17 GMT
No problem?! The three teams above us have a game in hand and the team above them is Chelsea. We can't score, we can't defend set pieces, we get overrun in midfield. No problem Yeh... no problem. That's what Chef Delilah and Davef been saying this last week or so. I think we've got a fookin massive problem actually. The team is unbalanced, lacking in steel in important areas and seemingly now unable to string a series of passes together. Told you so. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 16:26:12 GMT
I'd get used to looking at the bottom half of the table as we aint any top half team!
I'd be happy to stay up in 17th.
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Post by malteser68 on Sept 12, 2015 16:26:42 GMT
Of the league . Have we been unlucky or do we have a big problem .? I was told we would be top six material . I think we've been lucky so far
Norwich could easily have been a loss and today could easily have been a mauling
Butland has been outstanding so far and when your keeper is your best player on the pitch week in week out you know that you're in rather deep shit
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 12, 2015 16:29:16 GMT
No problem?! The three teams above us have a game in hand and the team above them is Chelsea. We can't score, we can't defend set pieces, we get overrun in midfield. No problem Yeh... no problem. That's what Chef Delilah and Davef been saying this last week or so. I think we've got a fookin massive problem actually. The team is unbalanced, lacking in steel in important areas and seemingly now unable to string a series of passes together. Told you so. Have I fallen asleep and woken up in April? |
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Post by Miles Offside on Sept 12, 2015 16:35:35 GMT
No problem at present. However, we could have a very big one if the next 2 home games don't go to plan. It'll be harder for us to put things right the longer this goes on. Performances are just as worrying as results a present. But I'm optimistic that there's enough quality in the squad to finish mid table-ish. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 12, 2015 16:36:35 GMT
I don't think performances overall have been that bad.
Today was shocking mind.
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Post by no1972 on Sept 12, 2015 16:40:30 GMT
It's not the results that worry me it is the performances,90min against a shit Liverpool side one shot on target,Out played for 75min against a Spurs side that's not that good,out played at Norwich if it was not for Jack it would of been a defeat,the first 20 min against WBA we did not look like we were going to break them down,the sending off helped us in a strange way the crowd lifted the team befor that it was like a funeral parlour .And today we could of conceded 8 against a team that has not scored in 5 of its 6 games.
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Post by armitagestokie on Sept 12, 2015 16:41:56 GMT
We have a problem and don't think Leics and bornmouth will be easy matches.
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Post by songthrush01 on Sept 12, 2015 16:46:17 GMT
Of the league . Have we been unlucky or do we have a big problem .? I was told we would be top six material . I think we've been lucky so far
Norwich could easily have been a loss and today could easily have been a mauling
Butland has been outstanding so far and when your keeper is your best player on the pitch week in week out you know that you're in rather deep shit
spot on mate it tells yer everything about how the team are performing every week jack is man of the match |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 16:46:24 GMT
Watched 2nd half on some weird feed that kept buffering but with UK commentary. OK Ars were better than us (as if they wern't at home) but for a couple of periods we had them defending (not quite panicking) but for F sake if we went at them and again and again with PASSION then maybe just maybe we could have scored.
Same old shit Arne gets an elbow not even a fkg yellow, I am sure there are 2 leagues in the Prem and we aint in the in the 'upper class' one.
Still dont panic, cant ever remember us being bottom but hopefully not for long. Oh and PS Shawcross would have stopped the 2nd no fear!!!
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Post by hchpotter on Sept 12, 2015 16:47:10 GMT
Milan - take your point but the performances worry me. We created little against Liverpool. We were woeful today and at Luton. We were mediocre for 65 minutes against Norwich and we were unfortunate against West Brom.
For all the flair players we have what did we create against Liverpool, Arsenal, Norwich and Luton?
The defence is a complete shambles and we look as though we lack fitness and fight. If we are to make the next step up I Would have thought the management would look to improve on two things quite quickly.
1. Be better organised in defence - we conceded too many from set pieces last season and look to have learned nothing.
2. We started very slowly last season and are even worse at the start of this season. Do we just assume that a slow start means we'll be stronger later in the season? Is that what QPR assumed?
I agree it's too early to write us off as relegation certainties but it's surely not too early to be concerned.
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Post by oatcakesteve on Sept 12, 2015 16:48:14 GMT
Minimum 4 points from the next two, anything less then I will be worried.
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Bottom .
Sept 12, 2015 16:48:46 GMT
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 12, 2015 16:48:46 GMT
Not arsed. 4 points from the next 2 games though is pretty vital. No - 6 points are vital and nothing less than acceptable against mediocre opposition - Hughes needs to get his finger out and quickly. |
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Post by richardparker on Sept 12, 2015 16:49:07 GMT
We did not play as a cohesive unit today.
Giving the ball away very cheaply, poor first touch and control, not knowing each others' game ...
This undoubtedly affects confidence.
As people have said, next couple of games are massive.
Having said that, it's not the time to panic!
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but I don't fancy taking the risk 
