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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2015 0:31:46 GMT
And if we're going for the two yellow card angle on Gardner, it should have been Adam's second if you think it warranted something. Because the foul he made after his usual dallying on the ball antics was fucking shocking and he got away with that! Fook off!!!!!!!!!!!! It's though isn't it? He should have been booked for that. He fucking clattered the West Brom player after his day dreaming antics. A waste of a contract extension.
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Post by LphPotter on Aug 30, 2015 0:31:52 GMT
Never a stamp and as for Afellay's i can understand the red card although it is soft but Gardner has to get the same as Afellay, Oliver is looking right at it! I would like to hear his explanation for not sending off Gardner, but of course we won't.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2015 0:35:05 GMT
Never a stamp and as for Afellay's i can understand the red card although it is soft but Gardner has to get the same as Afellay, Oliver is looking right at it! I would like to hear his explanation for not sending off Gardner, but of course we won't. So what the fook was it? He's only done it what 6 or 7??? times now in his career. He's not that sort of player..... Well he is, he's a right dirty cunt, always has been.
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Post by mailman44 on Aug 30, 2015 0:35:37 GMT
It's though isn't it? He should have been booked for that. He fucking clattered the West Brom player after his day dreaming antics. A waste of a contract extension. Ugh .... You are sucking the life out of me ....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2015 0:40:05 GMT
It's though isn't it? He should have been booked for that. He fucking clattered the West Brom player after his day dreaming antics. A waste of a contract extension. Ugh .... You are sucking the life out of me .... The truth.........you can't handle the truth!
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Post by LphPotter on Aug 30, 2015 0:42:00 GMT
Never a stamp and as for Afellay's i can understand the red card although it is soft but Gardner has to get the same as Afellay, Oliver is looking right at it! I would like to hear his explanation for not sending off Gardner, but of course we won't. So what the fook was it? He's only done it what 6 or 7??? times now in his career. He's not that sort of player..... Well he is, he's a right dirty cunt, always has been. It isn't a stamp, is what i said, which it isn't. He didn't lift his leg up and then back down onto the player, that is a stamp, he didn't do that. He trod on him on his way down from a poor tackle by Dawson, only he knows if it was deliberate, it is hard to say. It has been given because of his reputation and who he is, would others have been sent for it?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2015 0:43:15 GMT
So what the fook was it? He's only done it what 6 or 7??? times now in his career. He's not that sort of player..... Well he is, he's a right dirty cunt, always has been. It isn't a stamp, is what i said, which it isn't. He didn't lift his leg up and then back down onto the player, that is a stamp, he didn't do that. He trod on him on his way down from a poor tackle by Dawson, only he knows if it was deliberate, it is hard to say. It has been given because of his reputation and who he is, would others have been sent for it? I'd hope so.
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Post by LphPotter on Aug 30, 2015 0:44:51 GMT
It isn't a stamp, is what i said, which it isn't. He didn't lift his leg up and then back down onto the player, that is a stamp, he didn't do that. He trod on him on his way down from a poor tackle by Dawson, only he knows if it was deliberate, it is hard to say. It has been given because of his reputation and who he is, would others have been sent for it? I'd hope so. But they wouldn't, how many times has Costa done much worse?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 30, 2015 0:46:47 GMT
So what the fook was it? He's only done it what 6 or 7??? times now in his career. He's not that sort of player..... Well he is, he's a right dirty cunt, always has been. It isn't a stamp, is what i said, which it isn't. He didn't lift his leg up and then back down onto the player, that is a stamp, he didn't do that. He trod on him on his way down from a poor tackle by Dawson, only he knows if it was deliberate, it is hard to say. It has been given because of his reputation and who he is, would others have been sent for it? Clear footage on MOTD. Adam's left foot is FIRMLY planted to the ground, with his right foot on his leg. There is then absolutely no reason for him to lift his left foot off the ground and create more weight on his right foot. Sneaky one, some you win, some you lose. He lost this time.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2015 0:47:01 GMT
But they wouldn't, how many times has Costa done much worse? Lots of times and he's been punished for it too. Charlie Adam is at a similar of dirtiness though. And along with Huth the only dirty player I think we've had in the Premier League. He does himself no favours at all.
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Post by mailman44 on Aug 30, 2015 0:49:43 GMT
Charlie Adam is a club legend.
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Post by LphPotter on Aug 30, 2015 0:52:37 GMT
But they wouldn't, how many times has Costa done much worse? Lots of times and he's been punished for it too. Charlie Adam is at a similar of dirtiness though. And along with Huth the only dirty player I think we've had in the Premier League. He does himself no favours at all. Has Costa been sent off for it? I think he got a ban afterwards once, not sure he's been sent off in the actual game, despite numerous stamps amongst others. I agree that sometimes he does not do himself any favours but i just don't think it's a red or a stamp.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2015 0:52:27 GMT
He's a 2 month a season wonder who should have been sold a long time ago. Half of that is true and pretty undeniable, half is opinion.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2015 0:53:32 GMT
Lots of times and he's been punished for it too. Charlie Adam is at a similar of dirtiness though. And along with Huth the only dirty player I think we've had in the Premier League. He does himself no favours at all. Has Costa been sent off for it? I think he got a ban afterwards once, not sure he's been sent off in the actual game, despite numerous stamps amongst others. I agree that sometimes he does not do himself any favours but i just don't think it's a red or a stamp. Well it clearly was.......
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 30, 2015 1:01:27 GMT
He's a 2 month a season wonder who should have been sold a long time ago. Half of that is true and pretty undeniable, half is opinion. I thought it was a thread on Arnie when I read that. Looking at it now it was a definite red but I'm not sure the linesman could have been sure on that split second.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2015 1:05:01 GMT
He's a 2 month a season wonder who should have been sold a long time ago. Half of that is true and pretty undeniable, half is opinion. I thought it was a thread on Arnie when I read that. Looking at it now it was a definite red but I'm not sure the linesman could have been sure on that split second. I was on the same split second, he got the decision right, what's the issue?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 30, 2015 1:10:02 GMT
I thought it was a thread on Arnie when I read that. Looking at it now it was a definite red but I'm not sure the linesman could have been sure on that split second. I was on the same split second, he got the decision right, what's the issue? No issue just thought he couldn't be sure and maybe his reputation went before him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2015 1:11:41 GMT
I was on the same split second, he got the decision right, what's the issue? No issue just thought he couldn't be sure and maybe his reputation went before him. Maybe it did but I think he saw it, it was pretty obvious from the angle I had.
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Post by lee1982 on Aug 30, 2015 7:22:16 GMT
So what the fook was it? He's only done it what 6 or 7??? times now in his career. He's not that sort of player..... Well he is, he's a right dirty cunt, always has been. It isn't a stamp, is what i said, which it isn't. He didn't lift his leg up and then back down onto the player, that is a stamp, he didn't do that. He trod on him on his way down from a poor tackle by Dawson, only he knows if it was deliberate, it is hard to say. It has been given because of his reputation and who he is, would others have been sent for it? absolutely spot on
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Post by lee1982 on Aug 30, 2015 7:38:00 GMT
Watched it again this morning with a clear head, and i still dont see it as a red card. Adam has been done by his reputation and i include many of our fans in that. Nothing othe than a coming together, legs getting tangled, adam stumbling backwards ( watch his arms ) and trying to regain his balance, no stamping motion, the player is lying in the floor underneath his feet, likelyhood is he will get trodden on.
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Post by harrysburrow on Aug 30, 2015 7:45:17 GMT
Probably been mentioned already, but has anyone ever seen a linesman run on the pitch waving his flag frantically like that before? It really does make you wonder about Mark Hughes' post match comments regarding official's attitudes when they come to Stoke.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 7:45:54 GMT
It isn't a stamp, is what i said, which it isn't. He didn't lift his leg up and then back down onto the player, that is a stamp, he didn't do that. He trod on him on his way down from a poor tackle by Dawson, only he knows if it was deliberate, it is hard to say. It has been given because of his reputation and who he is, would others have been sent for it? Clear footage on MOTD. Adam's left foot is FIRMLY planted to the ground, with his right foot on his leg. There is then absolutely no reason for him to lift his left foot off the ground and create more weight on his right foot. Sneaky one, some you win, some you lose. He lost this time. What was the linesman sprinting onto the pitch for BEFORE Adam even made contact with the player, that's the bit I don't understand?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 7:48:01 GMT
Clear footage on MOTD. Adam's left foot is FIRMLY planted to the ground, with his right foot on his leg. There is then absolutely no reason for him to lift his left foot off the ground and create more weight on his right foot. Sneaky one, some you win, some you lose. He lost this time. What was the linesman sprinting onto the pitch for BEFORE Adam even made contact with the player, that's the bit I don't understand? This is the key question that nobody but the linesman can answer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 7:49:42 GMT
He will say he ran on to split up a potential melee, and then witnessed the stamp. Looking at him at the time of the alleged stamp I think that's bollocks but it will be enough for his pay masters to swallow when they trot out the usual crap
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 7:50:46 GMT
I wondered the same thing. Overzealous doesn't cover the half of it.
He just couldn't wait to tell his little friend about what he assumed he saw - juat to make his own little pathetic impact on the game.
Still seething. Self-interested cunts.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Aug 30, 2015 7:52:28 GMT
Looking at the vid, my personal feeling is that the ref should have had a word with BOTH players......nothing more!!! Nothings been mentioned about the unnecessary high scissor challenge from the West Brom player that put Adam in that position in the first place, the West Brom player had cleared the ball, so it was a pointless action.......
Well, as things turned out, it proved not to be pointless for West Brom!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 8:39:54 GMT
The more times I see it the more it looks deliberate. Like others have said Adam is standing with his left foot firmly planted on the turf.He could have taken his right foot off their player but instead he leans in,puts all his weight on his right foot and even stands on 1 leg momentarily.
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Post by Billy the kid on Aug 30, 2015 8:44:54 GMT
no how that can be judged to be deliberate? look at the horrendous tackle he is being subjected to, it looks to me like he was more interested in staying on his feet. If he had gone down that would have been a red the other way two footed studs showing.
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 30, 2015 8:56:27 GMT
by the letter of the law both are probably red cards. so if oliver is being pedantic with the law of the game the Gardner should go as well.
in fact if you apply the law so efficiently then you will see multiple red cards in all games. this is where you would expect a bit if common sense for the good of the game. for me both probably warranted a talking to and yellow cards all round.
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Post by swede on Aug 30, 2015 8:57:33 GMT
Charlie should have dived and screamed like a Chelsky player instead of trying to regain his balance. The Stoke players should then have surrounded the linesman like spoiled frustrated schoolboys, just like Chelsky players would have done. Then the WBA player would have gotten a yellow card and everybody would be happy.
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