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Post by jwhpotter on Aug 29, 2015 17:30:21 GMT
After seen that I'm not so sure if its a red
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 29, 2015 17:33:33 GMT
It's not exactly blatant, is it? I bet Rooney would have got the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Aug 29, 2015 17:36:22 GMT
It's just not a red in any way, is it?
The bloke almost hurricanranas Charlie's body and he (obviously knocked off balance) accidentally steps on his leg.
That decision was a fucking joke.
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Post by StoKeith on Aug 29, 2015 17:37:18 GMT
I tried to look at it as objectively as possible and although it's not blatant, it does look like he had a little stamp. Can't blame the ref for that one I'm afraid.
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 29, 2015 17:37:18 GMT
What about the scissor kick on him? Didn't look deliberate from that.
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Post by 2004 on Aug 29, 2015 17:38:02 GMT
So what did he actually do there that got the linesman excited? Can't believe a red card has been given for that.
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Post by michelle1863 on Aug 29, 2015 17:38:53 GMT
It's very harsh and i think there was no common sense shown...I'm absolutely gutted, but I do think that luck evens itself out over the course of a season and there was only 1 team that deep served the three points today & it wasn't them!!!!
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Post by scfc5 on Aug 29, 2015 17:40:40 GMT
His weight is going backwards in the last part before he removes his leg - hard to say it was deliberate in such a short space of time.
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 29, 2015 17:41:21 GMT
It certainly wasn't accidental but it was still a ridiculous overreaction from the lino.
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Post by michelle1863 on Aug 29, 2015 17:41:37 GMT
I tried to look at it as objectively as possible and although it's not blatant, it does look like he had a little stamp. Can't blame the ref for that one I'm afraid. I think He's trying to get his balance, problem is unless the officials are 100% sure they shouldn't show a red! and I don't know how they can claim to be sure! I've watched it over and over and am still undecided...
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Post by malteser68 on Aug 29, 2015 17:42:27 GMT
A manure player wouldn't even get a yellow for that
These shit linesmen want to Play the part against teams like Us and stain their pants in the process with The excitement they get but if he saw that happening at old traffiord he wouldn't have been waving his flag so hard the bastard
I wish some day some one would stuff that flag up his arse and wave his hands with the same vigor until his intestines come out of his mouth
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Post by mrred on Aug 29, 2015 17:43:59 GMT
It's easy to manipulate something to look worse than it is. But having seen that from the south stand and from that video, if thats deemed as malicious, I'm fucking done with football.
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Post by owdmanjovi on Aug 29, 2015 17:45:17 GMT
Over excited linesman and reputation going before, if only he could do the honourable thing and rollover dying.
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 29, 2015 17:46:59 GMT
Did Gardener slap Affelay first as suggested?
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Post by lawrieleslie on Aug 29, 2015 17:46:51 GMT
Unfortunately Charlie's reputation precedes him and the Lino saw an opportunity for some limelight. Never a red in fact the baggies player should have been penalised for the scissor challenge that resulted in Charlie losing his balance. Problem with these fucking look at me official is that they ruined what was developing into a great game.
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Post by hooftastic on Aug 29, 2015 17:47:32 GMT
How is that in anyway even a foul?
He tries to put his foot down naturally. No stamping motion or even any appeals from the WBA player.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 29, 2015 17:47:49 GMT
It certainly wasn't accidental but it was still a ridiculous overreaction from the lino. If it certainly wasn't accidental, then it's certainly deliberate, isn't it? Ergo the liner called it right?
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Post by andystokey on Aug 29, 2015 17:50:39 GMT
The lino wanted banning for his crazy over the top intervention. What's wrong with a simple wave of the flag?
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Post by Stokie Mcpot on Aug 29, 2015 17:52:09 GMT
Did Gardener slap Affelay first as suggested? Yes with the same amount of so called "force" too.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 29, 2015 17:52:37 GMT
Sadly, think Charlie knew what he was doing.
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Post by Gods on Aug 29, 2015 17:54:03 GMT
yeah it's a bit of not much really but if they re-run the tread he got retrospectively done for last season where you couldn't prove culpability or otherwise but he still got the full 3 game suspension as they no doubt will on MOTD tonight the 2 incidents are going to look so similar he's going to get hung out to dry again, no point in appealing.
It's a bit of petulance really but it was petulance that finished us off today.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 17:55:34 GMT
For a start Adam was fouled but to me it looked like he was going to stamp but then thought better of it.Should have been a yellow
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 29, 2015 17:56:27 GMT
It certainly wasn't accidental but it was still a ridiculous overreaction from the lino. If it certainly wasn't accidental, then it's certainly deliberate, isn't it? Ergo the liner called it right? The decision is justifiable yes. I more meant the ridiculous flagging and scampering over as if it was all kicking off, when neither player had really reacted at all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 17:56:31 GMT
Oh dear !!!! clanger by the ref 9and lino) - judged the players reputation not the incident before them
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 17:57:19 GMT
Did Gardener slap Affelay first as suggested? Yes with the same amount of so called "force" too. It clearly wasn't the same force,Gardener put his finger to Affelays face quite gently, Affelay slapped him
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Post by AdderleyGreenStokie on Aug 29, 2015 17:57:53 GMT
Couldn't tell at the time and off that video I cannot see how it's a red card.
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 29, 2015 17:58:05 GMT
Did Gardener slap Affelay first as suggested? Yes,flicked him in the face when he was on the ground,did it to provoke a reaction and for the first time in his career Affelay was red carded.Cowardly, snide and underhand is Gardener.
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 29, 2015 18:00:50 GMT
Yes with the same amount of so called "force" too. It clearly wasn't the same force,Gardener put his finger to Affelays face quite gently, Affelay slapped him If contact was made no matter what it's a red though it's the rule of the game so why wasn't he shown red?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 29, 2015 18:02:57 GMT
If it certainly wasn't accidental, then it's certainly deliberate, isn't it? Ergo the liner called it right? The decision is justifiable yes. I more meant the ridiculous flagging and scampering over as if it was all kicking off, when neither player had really reacted at all. Got yer chap.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 29, 2015 18:05:39 GMT
Instinct.
I'd like to see a bit more context than the limited clip. There was a build up. We'd effectively and brilliantly avoided getting into a scrap with them and were passing them off the park. We were pulling them apart and to me it felt like a matter of time before Diouf, Shaqiri, Adam, Cameron, Jack or whoever would bost through, and they'd then crumble. When Afellay got clattered it switched the mood and momentum, they momentarily pulled us into a bit of a scrap. And he got sent off. My impression at the time Adam charged over. A bit of over enthusiastic jockeying. At the time I took a sharp intake, but there were heads so I missed the detail of the clip. Easy to see why it was interpreted as a Red, but it was more of a tangle than a stamp. He shouldn't have got involved in the battle we were cutting them apart. They'd hardly touched the bow.
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