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Post by Rick Grimes on Aug 29, 2015 18:06:56 GMT
Not a red card for me.
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Post by luke2u on Aug 29, 2015 18:08:36 GMT
I've seen it in replay from different angles, and it's deliberate, no doubt, so red card is correct.
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Post by admiral on Aug 29, 2015 18:09:21 GMT
Now that I've seen the video, it's a disgraceful decision by the linesman and referee. We would have won this game with ten men. Much more difficult with nine but we gave it a damned good go and I was proud of each of the players on the pitch. These referees need to be punished for this sort of decision..
Gutted about the result but proud of our team. At half time I said to those around me that the second half would define our season. Did we have the fight in the squad or not? We saw the answer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 18:09:25 GMT
It clearly wasn't the same force,Gardener put his finger to Affelays face quite gently, Affelay slapped him If contact was made no matter what it's a red though it's the rule of the game so why wasn't he shown red? I'n not sure what the rule is but I reckon if the roles had been reversed we'd all be saying the 1st 'slap' wasn't worthy of a red would we not ? There has to be some degree of comon sense in the rules,it can't always be black and white.Inerpretation I believe they call it |
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Post by owdmanjovi on Aug 29, 2015 18:11:25 GMT
So split board do we gamble on the extra game frivolous appeal
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 29, 2015 18:13:00 GMT
If contact was made no matter what it's a red though it's the rule of the game so why wasn't he shown red? I'n not sure what the rule is but I reckon if the roles had been reversed we'd all be saying the 1st 'slap' wasn't worthy of a red would we not ? There has to be some degree of comon sense in the rules,it can't always be black and white.Inerpretation I believe they call it You can't raise your hands to a players face in any instance though that's why Affelay's red card was correct but it should of been a red for both and having seen the Adam challenge for me no red it should of been a free kick to us and at the very least a yellow for the West Brom player so common sense shown there. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 18:14:54 GMT
I hope the ref and official face some accountability for that rediculous decision
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Post by Gods on Aug 29, 2015 18:18:13 GMT
So split board do we gamble on the extra game frivolous appeal Nope, this one failed with Charlie and Oliver Giroud last year didn't it? And this will also go on the pile marked 'failed appeal', in fact I could almost see them putting it up on the grounds of 'previous'. We just need to move on.  |
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 29, 2015 18:19:58 GMT
I'n not sure what the rule is but I reckon if the roles had been reversed we'd all be saying the 1st 'slap' wasn't worthy of a red would we not ? There has to be some degree of comon sense in the rules,it can't always be black and white.Inerpretation I believe they call it You can't raise your hands to a players face in any instance though that's why Affelay's red card was correct but it should of been a red for both and having seen the Adam challenge for me no red it should of been a free kick to us and at the very least a yellow for the West Brom player so common sense shown there. Just seen it and he slaps Affelay around the face in the challenge then again a flick in the face so for me he too should of gone. |
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Post by spongebobflathead on Aug 29, 2015 18:20:11 GMT
As objective and fair as I want to be
It's never a red in a million years , firstly -there is as much evidence that he's stumbling than there is that it's deliberate and secondly - it's not even a stamp
Saying "I think he knew exactly what he was doing " just ain't good enough , wank decision
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Post by jeycov on Aug 29, 2015 18:22:21 GMT
I don't think it resulted in a free kick, a throw in?
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 29, 2015 18:24:23 GMT
I don't think it resulted in a free kick, a throw in? Yes. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 18:24:25 GMT
Doesn't matter how 'bad' a stamp it is you can't go intentionally stamping on people...
He's got a history for it Charlie so it's hard to complain when he does get sent off for it, considering he's gotten away with it a fair few times!
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Post by owdmanjovi on Aug 29, 2015 18:24:41 GMT
I don't think it resulted in a free kick, a throw in? Correct the game restarted with a throw in. |
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 29, 2015 18:32:44 GMT
Doesn't matter how 'bad' a stamp it is you can't go intentionally stamping on people... He's got a history for it Charlie so it's hard to complain when he does get sent off for it, considering he's gotten away with it a fair few times! He just never learns does he? A liability is Charlie, most games he's a red card waiting to happen. |
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Post by kustokie on Aug 29, 2015 18:32:49 GMT
Watched it several times. Charlie was clearly fouled and their legs got a bit tangled. Not sure sure if Charlie stepped on his leg intentionally. But if that's the way the Lino saw it, then it's a red. Interestingly no protest from Charlie. So makes you wonder.
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Post by j3st3r on Aug 29, 2015 18:33:06 GMT
Still cant believe some think this was accidental... even with that video which isnt the best angle... Charlie is off balance and falling away from the player... he regains his balance.. and whilst looking at him.. puts his weight forward towards the player... a leg breaker it isnt but he knew what he was doing..
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Post by Gunslinger on Aug 29, 2015 18:33:48 GMT
The ref must be 100% certain if a player is to be sent off. I just can't see how that is a red card at all. The stamp does indeed look accidental as Adam was off-balance after the tackle by the WBA-player. It speaks volumes about the decision as we're not able to see if it's deliberate or not after watching the situation time and again in slow-motion. A poor decision indeed, but then we also know that Adam has a 'reputation' as well and that might have 'helped' the referee making the decision.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 29, 2015 18:34:04 GMT
it's a shame because he was playing really well up to that point.
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Post by jaybee on Aug 29, 2015 18:36:48 GMT
Looked a bit like Rory vs SWP against Man C a few years ago, when Beatie scored the winner  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 18:38:26 GMT
So what did he actually do there that got the linesman excited? Can't believe a red card has been given for that. I will tell you what got them excited the fact it was Stoke and in particular Adam. |
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Post by hooftastic on Aug 29, 2015 18:41:58 GMT
I don't really know what people think Adam should do?
His feet have to come down, unless he's developed the ability to levitate!?
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 29, 2015 18:49:48 GMT
I don't know whether or not it's the clip but I can't see anything in that apart from a wrestling type hold being applied by that cunt from West Brom. Very harsh
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Post by sutt on Aug 29, 2015 18:52:24 GMT
That's outrageous where's Charlie supposed to put his foot when he's wrapped round his legs, so so harsh. Worth an appeal, Adam would have had to of done the splits to not place his foot down on him, joke
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 18:52:41 GMT
Did anyone see the stamp on Arnie second half ? just the same as Adam but he gets sent off crazy !
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Post by mattface on Aug 29, 2015 19:47:11 GMT
Didn't look a red at the game and doesn't on that clip both players are moving backwards and the West Brom player has his legs wrapped round Charlie - where is he supposed to put his feet down. There was hardly massive downward pressure or deliberate change of direction of his foot.
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Post by Stokie Mcpot on Aug 29, 2015 19:56:42 GMT
Yes with the same amount of so called "force" too. It clearly wasn't the same force,Gardener put his finger to Affelays face quite gently, Affelay slapped him If that's a slap then I guess were going to have to redefine what constitutes serious assault. My arse was it a slap. |
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Post by capto on Aug 29, 2015 19:58:11 GMT
The west brom player who was stamped on didn't roll around? That tells a story surely? If there was any chance he'd been stamped on surely he'd have rolled around like a stuck pig?
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Post by heavysoul on Aug 29, 2015 20:03:04 GMT
The linesman got so exited I bet he had a little wet patch in his underwear.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Aug 29, 2015 20:06:16 GMT
Having seen it again it certainly wasn't a stamp. At worst he land on the player and didn't try to get off him particularly quickly.
Blatantly got sent off because of who he is.
Not the first time he's refereed a Stoke game based on reputation (Shawcross against Swansea).
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