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Post by st4scfc on Aug 27, 2015 7:12:53 GMT
Walters 110% every single game, treated like shite now we have a swiss guy that once played for bayern munich. I'm with you jon you deserve the contract others are getting for what you have done. I'd be a bit pissed myself How is he being treated like shite? Not giving him a contract until he's 35 is being treated like shite? I dont think so. Jon has done ok for us with a few purple patches thrown in for good measure. Whingeing like a girl in public does him no favors at all. Loves the club, will roll sleeves up and dig in whenever needed. It'll be interesting to see if any of these supa dupa big wage & higher profile players care & are prepared to do it or have we signed mercenaries ala qpr, nobody knows yet. One thing is for sure walters is not a mercenary and earns his wage every time he sets foot on the pitch. Crouch, Odemwingie have been given contracts and they are older. Walters is an athlete, always super fit and rarely gets injured which suggests to me he can easily go on until 35 at to level. We've even handed Wilko a contract even though we have no intention of playing him. Too many changes too soon will bite us in the arse, Jon is part of the old guard, tried, tested and proven. Top pro. For this reason, I'm in.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 27, 2015 7:15:18 GMT
Apparently we are looking at Olic, again; maybe Walters is off?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 7:16:41 GMT
Apparently we are looking at Olic, again; maybe Walters is off? How old! 36?
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 27, 2015 7:17:02 GMT
Apparently we are looking at Olic, again; maybe Walters is off? Olic, he's 93 isn't he?
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 27, 2015 7:18:02 GMT
How is he being treated like shite? Not giving him a contract until he's 35 is being treated like shite? I dont think so. Jon has done ok for us with a few purple patches thrown in for good measure. Whingeing like a girl in public does him no favors at all. Loves the club, will roll sleeves up and dig in whenever needed. It'll be interesting to see if any of these supa dupa big wage & higher profile players care & are prepared to do it or have we signed mercenaries ala qpr. One thing is for sure walters is not a mercenary and earns his wage every time he sets foot on the pitch. Crouch, Odemwingie have been given contracts and they are older. Walters is an athlete, always super fit and rarely gets injured which suggests to me he can easily go on until 35 at to level. We've even handed Wilko a contract even though we have no intention of playing him. Too many changes too soon will bite us in the arse, Jon is part of the old guard, tried, tested and proven. Top pro. The thing is we don't know what the club have offered him, it might be a very generous offer. I don't think it's fair to say the club have treated him like shite when we don't know the details. Stoke have shown that they very rarely treat their players like shite, quite the opposite really.
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Post by jeycov on Aug 27, 2015 7:20:09 GMT
Apparently we are looking at Olic, again; maybe Walters is off? Just noticed this albeit in The Sun. He's 35!
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 27, 2015 7:21:14 GMT
Loves the club, will roll sleeves up and dig in whenever needed. It'll be interesting to see if any of these supa dupa big wage & higher profile players care & are prepared to do it or have we signed mercenaries ala qpr. One thing is for sure walters is not a mercenary and earns his wage every time he sets foot on the pitch. Crouch, Odemwingie have been given contracts and they are older. Walters is an athlete, always super fit and rarely gets injured which suggests to me he can easily go on until 35 at to level. We've even handed Wilko a contract even though we have no intention of playing him. Too many changes too soon will bite us in the arse, Jon is part of the old guard, tried, tested and proven. Top pro. The thing is we don't know what the club have offered him, it might be a very generous offer. I don't think it's fair to say the club have treated him like shite when we don't know the details. Stoke have shown that they very rarely treat their players like shite, quite the opposite really. Agreed but I also don't believe Walters wouldn't take a half decent offer if it is on the table
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 27, 2015 7:24:50 GMT
Also beginning to wonder wether we did as much as we could to keep NZonzi, as it stands at the mo Zonz 70k a week contract looks like it would of been good business
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 27, 2015 7:25:25 GMT
Apparently we are looking at Olic, again; maybe Walters is off? Just noticed this albeit in The Sun. He's 35! That would be the ultimate insult, wouldn't it? Like you say, it IS The Sun, though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 7:26:43 GMT
The thing is we don't know what the club have offered him, it might be a very generous offer. I don't think it's fair to say the club have treated him like shite when we don't know the details. Stoke have shown that they very rarely treat their players like shite, quite the opposite really. Agreed but I also don't believe Walters wouldn't take a half decent offer if it is on the table Don't labor under any illusions that Walters is different from any other player. He's in it for the money. For a player of limited ability he's made a fantastic living. I have no problem with keeping him but not until he's 35. For a player that relies on industry that would be pure folly. If he doesn't think the contract on the table is not good enough then he has a decision to make. For me he should keep his feelings to himself. Hes been more than looked after by players and fans alike.
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 27, 2015 7:28:31 GMT
Agreed but I also don't believe Walters wouldn't take a half decent offer if it is on the table Don't labor under any illusions that Walters is different from any other player. He's in it for the money. For a player of limited ability he's made a fantastic living. I have no problem with keeping him but not until he's 35. For a player that relies on industry that would be pure folly. If he doesn't think the contract on the table is not good enough then he has a decision to make. For me he should keep his feelings to himself. Hes been more than looked after by players and fans alike. How things stand right now he'd be in my starting 11 every week.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 27, 2015 7:32:47 GMT
The thing is we don't know what the club have offered him, it might be a very generous offer. I don't think it's fair to say the club have treated him like shite when we don't know the details. Stoke have shown that they very rarely treat their players like shite, quite the opposite really. Agreed but I also don't believe Walters wouldn't take a half decent offer if it is on the table You sir are living in cloud cuckoo land. Jon Walters will do what is best for Jon Walters, he Is no different than any other player. He couldn't give a a fuck about SCFC if there's something better around the corner. Their wasn't a hint of disappointment in his interview he was very clear in his views and good on him. At this stage in his career he needs to make the correct decisions and he sounds very confident that there is something on the horizon.
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 27, 2015 7:34:14 GMT
Agreed but I also don't believe Walters wouldn't take a half decent offer if it is on the table You sir are living in cloud cuckoo land. Jon Walters will do what is best for Jon Walters, he Is no different than any other player. He couldn't give a a fuck about SCFC if there's something better around the corner. Their wasn't a hint of disappointment in his interview he was very clear in his views and good on him. At this stage in his career he needs to make the correct decisions and he sounds very confident that there is something on the horizon. To be fair mate at this time I think we need him more than he needs us, with each passing game we are getting closer to being in a sticky situation and I know who i'd like in my 11 in them kind of situations.
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 27, 2015 7:35:32 GMT
Walters is 31, if we got another 2 and a half good years out of him it will still be worthwhile.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 27, 2015 7:36:10 GMT
You sir are living in cloud cuckoo land. Jon Walters will do what is best for Jon Walters, he Is no different than any other player. He couldn't give a a fuck about SCFC if there's something better around the corner. Their wasn't a hint of disappointment in his interview he was very clear in his views and good on him. At this stage in his career he needs to make the correct decisions and he sounds very confident that there is something on the horizon. To be fair mate at this time I think we need him more than he needs us, with each passing game we are getting closer to being in a sticky situation and I know who i'd like in my 11 in them kind of situations. Like I said Cloud cuckoo land
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 27, 2015 7:37:13 GMT
Has Hughes even signed a player yet with the qualities Walters has? We are fast becoming a team of fancy flicks and frills with no ethic or back bone. Aka a wet dream to play against.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 27, 2015 7:38:00 GMT
Don't labor under any illusions that Walters is different from any other player. He's in it for the money. For a player of limited ability he's made a fantastic living. I have no problem with keeping him but not until he's 35. For a player that relies on industry that would be pure folly. If he doesn't think the contract on the table is not good enough then he has a decision to make. For me he should keep his feelings to himself. Hes been more than looked after by players and fans alike. How things stand right now he'd be in my starting 11 every week. Fair enough. At his age that is a good enough reason to offer him an extension of 1 year (taking him up to summer 2017). But it is NOT a good enough reason to offer him a contract to summer 2018. Don't forget the way these contracts work is that we'd be paying him now what we think he is worth - and we would still be paying him that figure for the 2017/18 season! That's ridiculous - at his age an extension to 2017 is reasonable but an extension to 2018 is not.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 27, 2015 7:37:51 GMT
Has Hughes even signed a player yet with the qualities Walters has? We are fast becoming a team of fancy flicks and frills with no ethic. Yes he has Tex
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 27, 2015 7:39:17 GMT
Huth, Walters, Zonz gone and shawcross out. We'd better order some Daz ultra white to get them grass stains of the shorts.
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 27, 2015 7:39:27 GMT
Has Hughes even signed a player yet with the qualities Walters has? We are fast becoming a team of fancy flicks and frills with no ethic. Yes he has Tex That's reassured me mate, thanks
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Post by wozzerthepotter on Aug 27, 2015 7:47:26 GMT
Have to say I love JW to bits as a footballer but he is a typical Tory, all for the market economy and free market etc etc until it is applied to him then its unfair. If he were genuine he would take what he was offered and prove the club wrong I can't imagine he is being offered a decrease in weekly wage. One thing is for certain MH doesn't take well to being threatened as Nzonzi & Bego found out I don't believe many pro footballers are going to get a lot of public sympathy in this day and age.
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Post by jeycov on Aug 27, 2015 7:56:37 GMT
Agree, MH is unlikely to back down IF he is the one influencing the finance / length of the contract.
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Post by bertiestan on Aug 27, 2015 8:00:12 GMT
Has Hughes even signed a player yet with the qualities Walters has? We are fast becoming a team of fancy flicks and frills with no ethic or back bone. Aka a wet dream to play against. Ffs youth, everyone was creaming at the signing of shaqiri the other week.
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 27, 2015 8:09:20 GMT
Has Hughes even signed a player yet with the qualities Walters has? We are fast becoming a team of fancy flicks and frills with no ethic or back bone. Aka a wet dream to play against. Ffs youth, everyone was creaming at the signing of shaqiri the other week. Course they were and why not, fact remains Walters offers something completely different and just as effective. Wait until he goes and he lines up for Norwich against us, we'll realise exactly what we had when he's bullying our back 4 like a duracell bunny on amphetimines
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 27, 2015 8:21:41 GMT
For me Shaqiri on the left, Bojan centre and Walters on the right is a perfect combination of skill, creativity pace, strength & ethic. Perfect balance, It doesn't get any better than that. We're looking to over cook it imo, sometimes what you allready have is the best.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 27, 2015 8:22:56 GMT
I'd stick Cameron in there too and Odemewingie. I don't think any of them should have been extended ditto Walters. Wingie has only been given a firm contract for the coming year. There is an option to extend if certain targets are met - although we don't know what those targets/thresholds are. Jon wants an extension to his contract which would then run for three seasons - which is not sensible for a club of our resources to offer to a player of his age. Most middle ranking clubs only offer one year extensions to players of Jon's age. If things work out well, then a club might keep offering one year extensions will into the a player's late 30s. But the important thing is to offer one year at a time and make a decision each year as to whether a further extension is warranted. As a Tory Jon should understand how any job market works best from the employer's point of view. Wingie's was not sensible knowing that we wanted a new right winger and had Walter contracted for another year. It was unnecessary and made a big squad even bigger....too big. Walters will probably get 2 years elsewhere, he's got it pretty sussed imo.
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Post by foster on Aug 27, 2015 8:27:55 GMT
For me Shaqiri on the left, Bojan centre and Walters on the right is a perfect combination of skill, creativity pace, strength & ethic. Perfect balance, It doesn't get any better than that. We're looking to over cook it imo, sometimes what you allready have is the best. Can Shaq even play on the left? His best position is on the right so I'd keep him there which is probably what he prefers too.
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 27, 2015 8:30:05 GMT
For me Shaqiri on the left, Bojan centre and Walters on the right is a perfect combination of skill, creativity pace, strength & ethic. Perfect balance, It doesn't get any better than that. We're looking to over cook it imo, sometimes what you allready have is the best. Can Shaq even play on the left? His best position is on the right so I'd keep him there which is probably what he prefers too. I'm under the impression he can play all three Right, centre & left. Him and Walters could swap sides a few times a game
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Post by jerrytheberry1 on Aug 27, 2015 8:43:07 GMT
Mm Urge huddle be.
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Post by foster on Aug 27, 2015 8:44:35 GMT
Can Shaq even play on the left? His best position is on the right so I'd keep him there which is probably what he prefers too. I'm under the impression he can play all three Right, centre & left. Him and Walters could swap sides a few times a game I'm going to ignore you now.
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