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Post by leicspotter on May 18, 2015 18:26:44 GMT
Personally I don't think he will even be at the game...but if he plays I will applaud a) if he is subbed off or b) at the end of the match...during the game he is fair game for any abuse, just as other opposition players are (Peter Thorne being the exception !)
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Post by britsabroad on May 18, 2015 23:54:21 GMT
Exactly. All the media at the moment is the old Liverpool lot from 25 years ago and he is Mr. Liverpool. As far as theyre concerned anything and everything to do with the club is the very best. Never mind that hes been a bit of a failure considering how good they think he is. Steven Gerrard "a bit of a failure". Right up there with the most ridiculous things I've ever seen written on this message board in the 8 years I've frequented it. Mind you,aren't you a shit fan? Considering hes currently being talked up as the best player to ever grace the Premier League, yes, a few cups here and there and an underperforming England career is fairly subpar. Compare it to the Scholes, Keane, Viera and Lampard trophy cabinets. And thats just the midfielders.
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Post by parttimelurker on May 19, 2015 0:22:41 GMT
Nothing I like more than people telling me what my opinion should be. Thanks. That's an interesting approach to Discussion Forums. So by that logic all opinions posted here are people telling you what your opinion should be? And that goes for all of us too. You don't have to have an opinion, but if nobody posted an opinion it would be a rather bland forum I guess. I'm all for having an opinion, I just object to the suggestion that "I don't get football" if I don't share yours. For a discussion to take place then you need to accept that people may have a different opinion to the one that you hold, otherwise the discussion is one-way.
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Post by werrington on May 19, 2015 5:22:30 GMT
Steven Gerrard "a bit of a failure". Right up there with the most ridiculous things I've ever seen written on this message board in the 8 years I've frequented it. Mind you,aren't you a shit fan? Considering hes currently being talked up as the best player to ever grace the Premier League, yes, a few cups here and there and an underperforming England career is fairly subpar. Compare it to the Scholes, Keane, Viera and Lampard trophy cabinets. And thats just the midfielders. So it's all about trophies then ? I thought it was all about him staying loyal as had he moved he would indeed have signed for a club who would of assured him trophies Shallow is not the word
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Post by britsabroad on May 19, 2015 7:05:03 GMT
Considering hes currently being talked up as the best player to ever grace the Premier League, yes, a few cups here and there and an underperforming England career is fairly subpar. Compare it to the Scholes, Keane, Viera and Lampard trophy cabinets. And thats just the midfielders. So it's all about trophies then ? I thought it was all about him staying loyal as had he moved he would indeed have signed for a club who would of assured him trophies Shallow is not the word Staying loyal = attempting to move to Chelsea but staying when threatened by local gangsters? He was a very good player, but hes possibly the most overrated ive ever seen.
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Post by werrington on May 19, 2015 7:08:06 GMT
So it's all about trophies then ? I thought it was all about him staying loyal as had he moved he would indeed have signed for a club who would of assured him trophies Shallow is not the word Staying loyal = attempting to move to Chelsea but staying when threatened by local gangsters? He was a very good player, but hes possibly the most overrated ive ever seen. Utter bollocks that story and fed by the media He must be the only player this has happened to then Somebody should tell young Raheem and wtf was Suarez doing putting his life on the line
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Post by Northy on May 19, 2015 7:08:34 GMT
So it's all about trophies then ? I thought it was all about him staying loyal as had he moved he would indeed have signed for a club who would of assured him trophies Shallow is not the word Staying loyal = attempting to move to Chelsea but staying when threatened by local gangsters? He was a very good player, but hes possibly the most overrated ive ever seen. the local gangster rumour, has it ever been proven, is it a conspiracy theory like 9-11 or not going to the moon, used by people to justify their side of the argument?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 7:08:57 GMT
Britsabroad don't be stupid, the fact is that in his prime he could've gone to near enough any club he wanted to be honest... There's no doubt he could've won trophies but the reason they're paying him to much respect is essentially that he chose instead to remain at his boyhood club. This whole Gerrard love in is annoying and I'm tired of it but you can't say he isn't on the same level as those you've listed
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Post by KevinWhimper on May 19, 2015 8:05:18 GMT
Out of interest did Giggs get this much of a media jizz-fest when he retired?
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Post by liam007 on May 19, 2015 8:08:16 GMT
Out of interest did Giggs get this much of a media jizz-fest when he retired? Or even Matt Le Tiss who was also a one club man?
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Post by jeycov on May 19, 2015 8:13:09 GMT
Will John Terry get the same send off?
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Post by britsabroad on May 19, 2015 14:04:31 GMT
Staying loyal = attempting to move to Chelsea but staying when threatened by local gangsters? He was a very good player, but hes possibly the most overrated ive ever seen. the local gangster rumour, has it ever been proven, is it a conspiracy theory like 9-11 or not going to the moon, used by people to justify their side of the argument? It was proven under oath in a court case about a separate issue.
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Post by Northy on May 19, 2015 14:11:34 GMT
the local gangster rumour, has it ever been proven, is it a conspiracy theory like 9-11 or not going to the moon, used by people to justify their side of the argument? It was proven under oath in a court case about a separate issue. that was 2001 though, a local pyscho wasn't it? way before he won them the Champions league in 2005 and had started to receive offers
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Post by britsabroad on May 19, 2015 15:41:17 GMT
It was proven under oath in a court case about a separate issue. that was 2001 though, a local pyscho wasn't it? way before he won them the Champions league in 2005 and had started to receive offers It was in the mid 2000s. One occurence was just after the CL win.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 18:30:42 GMT
Steven Gerrard "a bit of a failure". Right up there with the most ridiculous things I've ever seen written on this message board in the 8 years I've frequented it. Mind you,aren't you a shit fan? Considering hes currently being talked up as the best player to ever grace the Premier League, yes, a few cups here and there and an underperforming England career is fairly subpar. Compare it to the Scholes, Keane, Viera and Lampard trophy cabinets. And thats just the midfielders. All those players played in far superior clubs sides though,so the amount of trophies he won as part of a team is irrelevant really. The longivity of his career and the way he dragged many an average Liverpool side to the victories that he did definitely make him right up there with the very best midfielders this country has seen for years. To suggest he has been a bit of a failure is just ridiculous.
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Post by capto on May 19, 2015 18:53:52 GMT
In his prime, how many prem clubs or even top euro clubs would not have taken him if they could? But maybe because of some people's anti-l/p agenda the discussion becomes irrelevant?
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Post by Northy on May 19, 2015 19:39:06 GMT
that was 2001 though, a local pyscho wasn't it? way before he won them the Champions league in 2005 and had started to receive offers It was in the mid 2000s. One occurence was just after the CL win. That's just rumours though, the court case one was 2001,and then the next incident about 2011 when quite a few Liverpool players got burgled when they were away in Europe
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on May 19, 2015 19:46:43 GMT
If he comes on sometime during the second half, I suppose I'll give him a bit of a clap!!!
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Post by britsabroad on May 20, 2015 7:06:02 GMT
It was in the mid 2000s. One occurence was just after the CL win. That's just rumours though, the court case one was 2001,and then the next incident about 2011 when quite a few Liverpool players got burgled when they were away in Europe It was all over the news, and not just the gutter press. Liverpool even made a statement saying he had asked to leave.
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on May 20, 2015 7:25:06 GMT
I'll clap him on and off the field. Whilst playing against us he's fair game.
Some pointing to Liverpool's Gordon Banks send off, but he did win a World Cup for England.
To be fair, dispite what some say about Livepool fans, they're generally are very good at this kind of thing (if not slightly patronising).
P.S. I don't believe the gangster thing for a second, He used Chelsea for bigger wages.
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Post by milfman1 on May 20, 2015 7:39:08 GMT
Staying loyal = attempting to move to Chelsea but staying when threatened by local gangsters? He was a very good player, but hes possibly the most overrated ive ever seen. Utter bollocks that story and fed by the media He must be the only player this has happened to then Somebody should tell young Raheem and wtf was Suarez doing putting his life on the line its not utter bollocks werrington. it came out under oath in a court case of a well known liverpool gangster that was a family friend of the gerrards that this guy was giving gerrard protection against the guys that threatened him if he went to chelsea. part of this protection involved gerrards dad getting involved in some dodgy stuff for this gangster fella as he now owed him and this all came out in the police investiagation. a quick search on google and you will find the media reports of the trial
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Post by Northy on May 20, 2015 7:54:22 GMT
Utter bollocks that story and fed by the media He must be the only player this has happened to then Somebody should tell young Raheem and wtf was Suarez doing putting his life on the line its not utter bollocks werrington. it came out under oath in a court case of a well known liverpool gangster that was a family friend of the gerrards that this guy was giving gerrard protection against the guys that threatened him if he went to chelsea. part of this protection involved gerrards dad getting involved in some dodgy stuff for this gangster fella as he now owed him and this all came out in the police investiagation. a quick search on google and you will find the media reports of the trial that court case was 2001 though, when he as a young lad before he had his head turned
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Post by scarlet on May 20, 2015 14:19:11 GMT
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Post by sidley96 on May 20, 2015 21:37:46 GMT
What's the point of clapping him off? The Chelsea fans clapped him off and then he come out after the game and snubbed the gesture
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 20, 2015 21:42:50 GMT
We all should boo him for those sandals!
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Post by roylandstoke on May 20, 2015 22:07:44 GMT
I boo anyone who hasn't got a Stoke shirt on when Stoke are playing football.
All Liverpool players will get nothing but vitriol from me when they are playing against my club.
If Gerrard plays and is substituted I may applaud him off the pitch; but probably only if we are winning.
Gerrard did nothing in his career for my club and virtually nothing for England; I struggle to think of reasons why I should applaud him.
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Post by numpty40 on May 20, 2015 22:21:30 GMT
We all should boo him for those sandals! Seeing as I too own a similar pair of sandals to Gerrard and he is clearly a fashion icon, I may just refrain from booing him, however I will continue to wear socks with my sandals.
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