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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Mar 5, 2015 18:29:38 GMT
I actually agree with the OP. Although it is common place within most fan bases to overreact when it comes to the clubs they support, our supporters do seem to be one end of the scale or the other. Just look at Bojan. People were so unbelievably quick to write him off after a couple of below par games. Same with bego and many of our other players. A poor game, and they've forgotten all that's gone before, and the current predicament seems to reflect that player's whole season.
Although, as I say, I believe this to be the case with most clubs. It's not a thing confined to stoke.
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Post by capto on Mar 5, 2015 18:30:32 GMT
Just a lonely shit fan; we have nothing in common; fuck off to your own shit fan site. . . . End of.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 18:34:51 GMT
As a Manchester United fan, we've had our fair share of success, but disappointments too, just like any team. Right now, Stoke are doing pretty well and most fans are pretty content with the situation. What I don't get is the bi-polar nature of most of you. Bi-polar depression is extreme highs and extreme lows and this seems to epitomize most on here. A couple of wins and probably the best position Stoke has achieved so far in the Premiere league and Hughes is the best manager in history, a shoe in for Manager of the year and about to receive a knighthood and sainthood. A couple of weeks ago, Stoke lose to the bitters, which was a likely outcome, and suddenly, the sky is falling & Hughes should have been dragged to the centre spot and beheaded immediately. As much as I like Hughes, I find it unlikely a Manager outside the top 4 is going to receive manager of the month, let alone, manager of the year; that's just the way those nonsense awards work. I especially don't get all the doom and gloom after a loss. You'd think Stoke never lost a game before. Stoke: A perspective free zone. With all due respect mate your definition of disappointment differs wildly from ours . Stoke fans are paranoid for a very good reason . Your most recent failure was a season without a trophy or champoins league football , or most recently wasting £150 million quid on some dubious trophy signings . Try playing at Oldham or Wrexham for a couple of decades I agree with you, but imagine Stoke in a cup final and losing and compare that to getting knocked out in the 3rd round. They're both disappointing, but losing the final is more disappointing. United fans have higher expectations and are equally disappointed when they're not met. Being in those positions more often, means more success, but more failures at that level too. I'm not complaining that they don't have enough trophies (I'm sure many here would argue they have way more than deserved), I'm just pointing out United fans can feel just as disappointed at failure as any fan, but for different reasons than teams in a relegation battle, teams aiming for a European place or Championship teams trying to get promotion, who would love to have Stokes problems.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 18:35:57 GMT
Whereabouts in Hong Kong do you live? Wrong way. Head west. Indiana. Born Manchester. Your point is moot.
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Post by ohbottom on Mar 5, 2015 18:36:04 GMT
You're quite right, but those supporting Manchester United who post to 'educate' Stoke fans on how to accept defeat will be treated with the utter contempt they deserve. "I can't work you Stoke fans out." is more of a request for information than to educate. I was observing why I cannot work out why you go from 1 extreme to the other. This may be difficult for you to grasp, but even though we're not the giants ManU are, we do still have a reasonable number of fans. Amongst that lot there are bound to be a few who massively overreact to a bad result and post nonsense on here (BenjaminBiscuit springs to mind). They are unlikely to be the SAME fans who were posting the praise and positivity at other times. Most fans may well be highly critical of a bad performance but still be happy with our overall situation - which is in fact the sentiment most on here expressed after our two 4-1 defeats. Conversely there will be a few (DIFFERENT) fans who massively go overboard after a good run of results. Most fans will fall somewhere between those two extremes. I think you have been reading the board highly selectively to say "you lot go from 1 extreme to the other". Hope that helps
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 18:39:40 GMT
Mate, you just have to accept that followers of a club like Stoke are not going to take advice, or criticism from a follower of Manchester United when it comes to the 'ups and downs' of following you local football team. Manchester United don't have ups and downs just 'Ups and not quite so ups'. We're like every other club and have extremes of views on both side of any argument. I can assure you that there was no mass dissatisfaction following the Man City game because we were the better team for half of that game and (as you say) we might expect to get beat by them. We are on a fantastic run on a great season for us, despite crazy injury problems all season and the only REAL downer was the hammering we took at Blackburn at which (quite rightly) most were pissed off. That has been the low point of an otherwise brilliant season for us and our support are almost entirely united on that. I really do struggle to see your point and I think you (as with most Manchester United fans that comment) struggle to understand clubs like Stoke City and their fans. THAT is one of the reasons why your club is so loathed. Superb Except not true. Try throwing away a 6 point lead in the Premier league with 3 games to go, to the rival team in your city and convince me that's a "not quite so up"? It's a bit more disappointing than aiming for 8th and finishing 9th. Where ever your team is, we all have our battles and they come with both satisfaction and disappointment of equal measure, regardless of what your team is fighting for. It doesn't make you a glory hunter for being a fan of a team that has had lots of success, although I admit, I'm sure many are attracted based solely on that. I call them cockneys.
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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 5, 2015 18:41:50 GMT
Except not true. Try throwing away a 6 point lead in the Premier league with 3 games to go, to the rival team in your city and convince me that's a "not quite so up"? It's a bit more disappointing than aiming for 8th and finishing 9th. Tough times... lol
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 5, 2015 18:42:25 GMT
Whereabouts in Hong Kong do you live? Wrong way. Head west. Indiana. Born Manchester. Your point is moot. So your within driving distance of me as we speak. Good to know.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 18:49:06 GMT
Wrong way. Head west. Indiana. Born Manchester. Your point is moot. So your within driving distance of me as we speak. Good to know. I'd like to think of it as in artillery range.
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Post by ersaurebot 1, 000, 000 views on Mar 5, 2015 18:50:00 GMT
Except not true. Try throwing away a 6 point lead in the Premier league with 3 games to go, to the rival team in your city and convince me that's a "not quite so up"? It's a bit more disappointing than aiming for 8th and finishing 9th. Tough times... lol It always makes me laugh that the plastics also inherit the rivals of said club even when they live 200 miles away. Loads of man Ure fans here saying how much they hate man city, most of them couldn't tell me where their ground is!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 18:52:51 GMT
It's probably generated out of the passion that comes out of us being a local club with a predominantly local support so I'm not surprised you're confused by it. That and the fact most of us have got grit up our clouts.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 18:53:30 GMT
It always makes me laugh that the plastics also inherit the rivals of said club even when they live 200 miles away. Loads of man Ure fans here saying how much they hate man city, most of them couldn't tell me where their ground is! Citeh is easy to find. Just follow the smell of Arab oil, 'til you find the half empty, blue council house.
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Post by technostokie on Mar 5, 2015 19:10:38 GMT
OP is right though. Especially when it comes to players. They're either world beaters or need to be sold immediately. Absolutely no middle ground or forgiveness for spells of poor form on this board by a worrying number of posters. Redwhite you are so right,
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Post by adi on Mar 5, 2015 19:11:12 GMT
Are you a glory hunter?
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Post by technostokie on Mar 5, 2015 19:12:18 GMT
A couple of wins and probably the best position Stoke has achieved so far in the Premiere league and Hughes is the best manager in history, a shoe in for Manager of the year and about to receive a knighthood and sainthood. A couple of weeks ago, Stoke lose to the bitters, which was a likely outcome, and suddenly, the sky is falling & Hughes should have been dragged to the centre spot and beheaded immediately. Any chance you have overstated things a bit? IMHO, there still exist two camps on this forum (rimmers and wankstains) -- not that anybody wants to see the team lose. But when the team is on a negative streak some of the rimmers have their knives out for Hughes. When the team does well, some of the wankstains big him up. In short, Pulis still casts a shadow on this forum.
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Post by stokielancer on Mar 5, 2015 19:13:30 GMT
I would imagine there is a bit of a divide between shit fans! I'm not sure the majority are happy with constantly passing back to the keeper and playing long ball!
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Post by technostokie on Mar 5, 2015 19:14:13 GMT
As a Manchester United fan, we've had our fair share of success, but disappointments too, just like any team. Right now, Stoke are doing pretty well and most fans are pretty content with the situation. What I don't get is the bi-polar nature of most of you. Bi-polar depression is extreme highs and extreme lows and this seems to epitomize most on here. A couple of wins and probably the best position Stoke has achieved so far in the Premiere league and Hughes is the best manager in history, a shoe in for Manager of the year and about to receive a knighthood and sainthood. A couple of weeks ago, Stoke lose to the bitters, which was a likely outcome, and suddenly, the sky is falling & Hughes should have been dragged to the centre spot and beheaded immediately. As much as I like Hughes, I find it unlikely a Manager outside the top 4 is going to receive manager of the month, let alone, manager of the year; that's just the way those nonsense awards work. I especially don't get all the doom and gloom after a loss. You'd think Stoke never lost a game before. Stoke: A perspective free zone. What a patronising prick. Put simply, fuck off. WHAT AN IGNORAMUS.
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 5, 2015 19:14:59 GMT
So your within driving distance of me as we speak. Good to know. I'd like to think of it as in artillery range. Lets put our differences aside for a minute. No matter where you are in Indiana, you and I are currently just a few hours away from each other. I assume you've been enjoying the same 2 to 5 degree temperatures that I have as of late. Been a brutal winter thus far, with about ten feet of snow thrown in for good measure. Tomorrow the temps are supposed to be in the high 30's, gradually rising through next week. It seems as if this dreadful winter may finally be coming to an end. So if nothing else, at least the two of us can agree, Im sure, that the warmer weather will definitely be a welcome relief.
Now, where were we. Oh yes.......
Fuck off, Glory.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Mar 5, 2015 19:15:08 GMT
This really. But the opening poster really doesn't deserve some of the dogs abuse he is getting on here. Well, I guess it was bound to happen at some point...... for the first time, I disagree with you. How you holding up buddy, 8th and all that? Just don't even start to think of what could possibly happen next fixture!
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Post by stokielancer on Mar 5, 2015 19:15:05 GMT
Manchester 'Hoof' United!
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 19:15:23 GMT
I would imagine there is a bit of a divide between shit fans! I'm not sure the majority are happy with constantly passing back to the keeper and playing long ball! It's total football ... except for the scoring goals bit.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Mar 5, 2015 19:20:22 GMT
I would imagine there is a bit of a divide between shit fans! I'm not sure the majority are happy with constantly passing back to the keeper and playing long ball! Shhhh. It's not long ball when Manchester United do it! It's a 'long direct pass'!
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Post by GrahamHyde on Mar 5, 2015 19:21:09 GMT
The longer this thread goes on the more the OP actually answers his original query. There's been a few posts where he's basically said the same thing that I was going to say.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Mar 5, 2015 19:23:24 GMT
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Post by b17blg on Mar 5, 2015 19:24:42 GMT
Use of paragraphs should be a rule on here tbh.
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 5, 2015 19:25:52 GMT
As a Manchester United fan, we've had our fair share of success, but disappointments too, just like any team. Right now, Stoke are doing pretty well and most fans are pretty content with the situation. What I don't get is the bi-polar nature of most of you. Bi-polar depression is extreme highs and extreme lows and this seems to epitomize most on here. A couple of wins and probably the best position Stoke has achieved so far in the Premiere league and Hughes is the best manager in history, a shoe in for Manager of the year and about to receive a knighthood and sainthood. A couple of weeks ago, Stoke lose to the bitters, which was a likely outcome, and suddenly, the sky is falling & Hughes should have been dragged to the centre spot and beheaded immediately. As much as I like Hughes, I find it unlikely a Manager outside the top 4 is going to receive manager of the month, let alone, manager of the year; that's just the way those nonsense awards work. I especially don't get all the doom and gloom after a loss. You'd think Stoke never lost a game before. Stoke: A perspective free zone.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 19:25:57 GMT
I'd like to think of it as in artillery range. Lets put our differences aside for a minute. No matter where you are in Indiana, you and I are currently just a few hours away from each other. I assume you've been enjoying the same 2 to 5 degree temperatures that I have as of late. Been a brutal winter thus far, with about ten feet of snow thrown in for good measure. Tomorrow the temps are supposed to be in the high 30's, gradually rising through next week. It seems as if this dreadful winter may finally be coming to an end. So if nothing else, at least the two of us can agree, Im sure, that the warmer weather will definitely be a welcome relief.
Now, where were we. Oh yes.......
Fuck off, Glory.
You're way further north (west) than me. I live down I74 near Indianapolis. The temperatures have been similar, but the snow has been less than a foot. It's nowhere near as bad as last year, so that's a bonus. /endpleasantries.
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Post by rednwhite43 on Mar 5, 2015 19:26:40 GMT
As a glory hunting small minded little twat, why dont you go and fuck yourself you scumbag.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 19:29:52 GMT
The longer this thread goes on the more the OP actually answers his original query. There's been a few posts where he's basically said the same thing that I was going to say. Really? What was my conclusion?
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 19:30:57 GMT
As a glory hunting small minded little twat, why dont you go and fuck yourself you scumbag. Please, don't hold back!
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