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Post by kevkj on Mar 5, 2015 16:52:51 GMT
Well good for you now fuck off.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 16:55:48 GMT
ManUre fans just dont get the highs and lows of being a real football supporter purely because they have won the league about 10 times in the past 20 years. Being innured to success leads to a complete loss of passion. If Stoke ever won the league in my lifetime I reckon I would take a months holiday to celebrate and get my knob tattoed with Hughes' face on it. It's true that winning the league more than once makes the 2nd one less exciting as the first, but that doesn't mean United fans aren't real supporters. United were a big club before Ferguson arrived and many of us were heading there on a cold wintry night with Atkinson at the helm, knowing we're about to get battered by our most hated rival, Liverpool, but we went anyway, because we support through thick and thin as well, but given the choice, no one would deny success and because your team does win trophies, that doesn't mean you're not a real fan because they did!
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 5, 2015 16:57:49 GMT
As a Manchester United fan, we've had our fair share of success, but disappointments too, just like any team. Right now, Stoke are doing pretty well and most fans are pretty content with the situation. What I don't get is the bi-polar nature of most of you. Bi-polar depression is extreme highs and extreme lows and this seems to epitomize most on here. A couple of wins and probably the best position Stoke has achieved so far in the Premiere league and Hughes is the best manager in history, a shoe in for Manager of the year and about to receive a knighthood and sainthood. A couple of weeks ago, Stoke lose to the bitters, which was a likely outcome, and suddenly, the sky is falling & Hughes should have been dragged to the centre spot and beheaded immediately. As much as I like Hughes, I find it unlikely a Manager outside the top 4 is going to receive manager of the month, let alone, manager of the year; that's just the way those nonsense awards work. I especially don't get all the doom and gloom after a loss. You'd think Stoke never lost a game before. Stoke: A perspective free zone. Your perspective is, "we've[Man Utd.] had our fair share of success". So, you lot singing "We've won it twenty times!" constitutes a fair share? Some bloody perspective!
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Post by stokeloyal on Mar 5, 2015 16:58:42 GMT
I've not got much to say about this thread other thank fuck off you dirty manc cunt.
We've got enough arseholes on here already without you adding to them...
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Post by Roy Cropper on Mar 5, 2015 17:00:15 GMT
It's probably generated out of the passion that comes out of us being a local club with a predominantly local support so I'm not surprised you're confused by it. That and the fact most of us have got grit up our clouts. Not to burst your bubble, but I was born in Manchester, was a United LMTB member and lived for many years, a couple of miles from Old Trafford. Don't you all. As Jamo said, it is a hilarious statement coming from the green and gold brigade.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 17:01:22 GMT
Just an FYi to those spitting their dummies out. I wasn't trolling, but Stoke fans do seem to go from one extreme to the other, based solely on the last game. I appreciate you might not care for a Man United fans opinion, but I mentioned that to indicate I'm a 3rd party observer. I don't hate Stoke like you do, my team. In fact, I quite like Stoke, regardless of what you think of me and my team. With respect its a bit rich coming from one of your lot. You only have to look at the "green and gold" campaign to see what I'm referring to. Things didn't go quite according to plan and the scarves were everywhere. Ferguson wins the league and LVG gets to spend some money and then it's all forgotten. The point being, aren't most fans a bit fickle? I personally disagreed with the anti-Glazer campaign, although I didn't like them lumping debt onto the club. That said, they are much better than Martin Edwards, who milked United by trickling his stock away to the point a hostile takeover was possible. Most fans are fickle.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Mar 5, 2015 17:04:41 GMT
With respect its a bit rich coming from one of your lot. You only have to look at the "green and gold" campaign to see what I'm referring to. Things didn't go quite according to plan and the scarves were everywhere. Ferguson wins the league and LVG gets to spend some money and then it's all forgotten. The point being, aren't most fans a bit fickle? I personally disagreed with the anti-Glazer campaign, although I didn't like them lumping debt onto the club. That said, they are much better than Martin Edwards, who milked United by trickling his stock away to the point a hostile takeover was possible. Most fans are fickle. How's the cornish weather at this time of year?
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 17:08:11 GMT
Not to burst your bubble, but I was born in Manchester, was a United LMTB member and lived for many years, a couple of miles from Old Trafford. Don't you all. As Jamo said, it is a hilarious statement coming from the green and gold brigade. Yes.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Mar 5, 2015 17:10:10 GMT
ManUre fans just dont get the highs and lows of being a real football supporter purely because they have won the league about 10 times in the past 20 years. Being innured to success leads to a complete loss of passion. If Stoke ever won the league in my lifetime I reckon I would take a months holiday to celebrate and get my knob tattoed with Hughes' face on it. It's true that winning the league more than once makes the 2nd one less exciting as the first, but that doesn't mean United fans aren't real supporters. United were a big club before Ferguson arrived and many of us were heading there on a cold wintry night with Atkinson at the helm, knowing we're about to get battered by our most hated rival, Liverpool, but we went anyway, because we support through thick and thin as well, but given the choice, no one would deny success and because your team does win trophies, that doesn't mean you're not a real fan because they did! Im not saying ur any less of a fan if you show up for every game and support your team. But its normal u wont have the same level of passion when ur fans consider finishing 4th and winning the FA Cup a poor season. so its a bit rich you telling Stoke fans to have a little perspective!
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Post by stokesaint1 on Mar 5, 2015 17:11:26 GMT
And we would be in the slighest bit interested in the thoughts of a Manure fan because.............? No offence but go wind your own cockney fans up. Last year, of course, Manure fans just ran with it during the Moyes days, or did they???
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 17:11:40 GMT
I personally disagreed with the anti-Glazer campaign, although I didn't like them lumping debt onto the club. That said, they are much better than Martin Edwards, who milked United by trickling his stock away to the point a hostile takeover was possible. Most fans are fickle. How's the cornish weather at this time of year? I wouldn't know, but it's cold here in America. Just because I don't have a tent pitched outside Old Trafford, doesn't mean I'm not a fan and just because I don't live there doesn't mean I wasn't born there.
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Post by podolipotter on Mar 5, 2015 17:12:35 GMT
Sadly a lot of what he says is true. Apart from his utter delusion in supporting a glory team, he clearly does have one or two light bulbs switched on in his head. He does not deserve too much abuse for his post.
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 5, 2015 17:17:26 GMT
Sadly a lot of what he says is true. Apart from his utter delusion in supporting a glory team, he clearly does have one or two light bulbs switched on in his head. He does not deserve too much abuse for his post. So a big glory club prick comes on our board ripping Stoke fans, and your response, as well as some others on here, is to agree with him? You have got to be shitting me.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 17:20:00 GMT
It's true that winning the league more than once makes the 2nd one less exciting as the first, but that doesn't mean United fans aren't real supporters. United were a big club before Ferguson arrived and many of us were heading there on a cold wintry night with Atkinson at the helm, knowing we're about to get battered by our most hated rival, Liverpool, but we went anyway, because we support through thick and thin as well, but given the choice, no one would deny success and because your team does win trophies, that doesn't mean you're not a real fan because they did! Im not saying ur any less of a fan if you show up for every game and support your team. But its normal u wont have the same level of passion when ur fans consider finishing 4th and winning the FA Cup a poor season. so its a bit rich you telling Stoke fans to have a little perspective! Then I could reverse your original point back on you: You don't get the highs and lows of winning the premier league, compared to coming second, or getting knocked out of the Champions league for a bogus sending off on Nani in a crunch game, or winning the final in the last minute. It doesn't make United fans have less passion, it just means their highs and lows are for different things. You could argue a team like Newcastle would have less passionate fans, because they're just going to hover around the middle of the table, every year with nothing to aim for and nothing to lose, but that's not true of their fans either. They have different expectations and have highs and lows for different reasons too. Does coming 9th rather than 8th have the same level of disappointment as losing a cup final?
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Post by dozintheseventees on Mar 5, 2015 17:20:11 GMT
Sadly a lot of what he says is true. Apart from his utter delusion in supporting a glory team, he clearly does have one or two light bulbs switched on in his head. He does not deserve too much abuse for his post. Sorry but the point he was trying to make is bollocks IMO. It's NOT true that opinions swing with the wind and that Stoke fans go from extreme highs to extreme lows with results. The people on extreme highs are different people to those who get suicidal with a defeat. The bulk of our support are delighted with this season's showing and remained so when we were heavily beaten by Manchester City (totally opposite to the situation he outlined). You'll always get some individuals at every club that are at the extremes. Perhaps the OP SHOULD have said "I can't work football message boards out".
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 17:21:49 GMT
Sadly a lot of what he says is true. Apart from his utter delusion in supporting a glory team, he clearly does have one or two light bulbs switched on in his head. He does not deserve too much abuse for his post. So a big glory club prick comes on our board ripping Stoke fans, and your response, as well as some others on here, is to agree with him? You have got to be shitting me. I wasn't intending to 'rip' Stoke fans. If anything, I was pointing out you shouldn't get so upset when you lose, because every team does, but they all don't go into immediate freefall.
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Post by Fenparkpotter on Mar 5, 2015 17:22:44 GMT
I don't recall many people slating Hughes after the Man City game... or even the Blackburn game. Plenty have said he got things wrong, which is a perfectly normal reaction to a poor result or two. You'd be hard fought to find many calling for his head. Perhaps the odd one who has had it in for him from day one, but otherwise the fans have been fully behind Hughes since he got his feet under the desk.
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 5, 2015 17:28:57 GMT
So a big glory club prick comes on our board ripping Stoke fans, and your response, as well as some others on here, is to agree with him? You have got to be shitting me. I wasn't intending to 'rip' Stoke fans. If anything, I was pointing out you shouldn't get so upset when you lose, because every team does, but they all don't go into immediate freefall. Really? You were just coming on here to give us a few friendly words of advice, were you? The big glory club supporter has a few nice words for us little folk? Give me a fucking break.
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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 5, 2015 17:30:30 GMT
So a big glory club prick comes on our board ripping Stoke fans, and your response, as well as some others on here, is to agree with him? You have got to be shitting me. I wasn't intending to 'rip' Stoke fans. If anything, I was pointing out you shouldn't get so upset when you lose, because every team does, but they all don't go into immediate freefall. That coming from a club who changed their manager not to long ago because they didn't give him time is quite hilarious.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 17:31:22 GMT
I personally do not like Stoke losing. I cannot help that, it's the way I am. Being realistic, we have to lose sometime. What I do resent is teams like yours, who think they have a divine right to win something every season. What a load of b---- this so called ffp is, when teams like yours can go out and blow fortunes on players, just because they haven't won something for one bloody year! No doubt they will spend another fortune in the close season. Load of rubbish IMHO.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 17:32:35 GMT
I wasn't intending to 'rip' Stoke fans. If anything, I was pointing out you shouldn't get so upset when you lose, because every team does, but they all don't go into immediate freefall. Really? You were just coming on here to give us a few friendly words of advice, were you? The big glory club supporter has a few nice words for us little folk? Give me a fucking break. I've been on here for a while and I won't apologize that my club has a history of success, but that doesn't make me a "big glory club supporter", just a supporter.
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Post by Roy Cropper on Mar 5, 2015 17:35:17 GMT
Imagine being that insecure and tragic, that you have to go onto rival message boards to prove your worth as a fan.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Mar 5, 2015 17:36:33 GMT
Really? You were just coming on here to give us a few friendly words of advice, were you? The big glory club supporter has a few nice words for us little folk? Give me a fucking break. I've been on here for a while and I won't apologize that my club has a history of success, but that doesn't make me a "big glory club supporter", just a supporter. That's all fine mate but could you not foresee the reaction you'd get for coming on to a Stoke message board to tell Stoke fans they are fickle. Even worse when the point you tried to make was complete bollocks anyway. And what on earth leads you to believe that you are in any position to judge? You asked for it mate.
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Post by ************** on Mar 5, 2015 17:36:46 GMT
So a big glory club prick comes on our board ripping Stoke fans, and your response, as well as some others on here, is to agree with him? You have got to be shitting me. I wasn't intending to 'rip' Stoke fans. If anything, I was pointing out you shouldn't get so upset when you lose, because every team does, but they all don't go into immediate freefall. That's very considerate of you thanks. Anything else?
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Post by ersaurebot 1, 000, 000 views on Mar 5, 2015 17:37:40 GMT
Who gives a chuff what man Utd fans think.
Phone up talk sport and tell em, they're interested in what plastic band waggon idiots have to say about anything
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 5, 2015 17:37:41 GMT
Really? You were just coming on here to give us a few friendly words of advice, were you? The big glory club supporter has a few nice words for us little folk? Give me a fucking break. I've been on here for a while and I won't apologize that my club has a history of success, but that doesn't make me a "big glory club supporter", just a supporter. On this board, that's fucking exactly what it makes you.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 17:39:21 GMT
I wasn't intending to 'rip' Stoke fans. If anything, I was pointing out you shouldn't get so upset when you lose, because every team does, but they all don't go into immediate freefall. That coming from a club who changed their manager not to long ago because they didn't give him time is quite hilarious. That's a thread bare correlation. Moyes was sacked because he was failing and I thought it was too soon myself, but I also thought he shouldn't have been the manager in the first place. I don't speak on behalf of the Chairman and I don't agree with everything they do and who they sign, but there was a real crisis at the club after several bad results, not one loss. Furthermore, while a small minority decided to fly anti-Moyes banners from planes, the fans in the stadium started singing "David Moyes red & white army", so it wasn't like the fans turned on him. They kept the faith 'til the end.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 17:40:58 GMT
Imagine being that insecure and tragic, that you have to go onto rival message boards to prove your worth as a fan. Is that your motivation, because mine is; because I quite like Stoke and am a Hughes fan. Has my worth been proven now, whatever that is?
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Post by dozintheseventees on Mar 5, 2015 17:41:42 GMT
That coming from a club who changed their manager not to long ago because they didn't give him time is quite hilarious. That's a thread bare correlation. Moyes was sacked because he was failing and I thought it was too soon myself, but I also thought he shouldn't have been the manager in the first place. I don't speak on behalf of the Chairman and I don't agree with everything they do and who they sign, but there was a real crisis at the club after several bad results, not one loss. Furthermore, while a small minority decided to fly anti-Moyes banners from planes, the fans in the stadium started singing "David Moyes red & white army", so it wasn't like the fans turned on him. They kept the faith 'til the end. And you honestly think Stoke fans wanted Hughes hung drawn and quartered after the Manchester City game. Can you not see the rank stupidity in your argument? You easily dismiss fans flying banners urging the manager's sacking but leap upon a few disgruntled fans on a message board to prove how fickle Stoke fans are.........Give it up fella.
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Post by robwahlmann on Mar 5, 2015 17:42:06 GMT
What I can't understand is that a fan of a football club finds his own messageboard so boring that he/she starts trawling other boards for attention?
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