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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 5, 2015 19:31:16 GMT
Well, I guess it was bound to happen at some point...... for the first time, I disagree with you. How you holding up buddy, 8th and all that? Just don't even start to think of what could possibly happen next fixture! You know me, brother. I'm a nervous fucking wreck. But loving the hell out of this ride.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Mar 5, 2015 19:37:12 GMT
Manchester United under Moyes and Van Gaal: A Trophy-free zone
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Post by bunnyscfc on Mar 5, 2015 19:38:13 GMT
"as a Man United fan we've had our fair share of disappointments"
I presume you're just 18 months old mate, or have you forgotten the previous 25 years?
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Mar 5, 2015 19:40:34 GMT
How you holding up buddy, 8th and all that? Just don't even start to think of what could possibly happen next fixture! You know me, brother. I'm a nervous fucking wreck. But loving the hell out of this ride. Hold on in there buddy, I have a feeling it can only get better.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 19:46:25 GMT
"as a Man United fan we've had our fair share of disappointments" I presume you're just 18 months old mate, or have you forgotten the previous 25 years? Yes. I'm 18 months old. It's all relative. In the Sexton era it was winning nothing. The Atkinson era, it was the disappointment of losing an F.A. cup final. Under Ferguson, losing a Champions League final. Under Moyes, failing to qualify for Europe. Van Gaal? Each season has expectations at every level and not every team achieves them.
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Post by pbpotter on Mar 5, 2015 19:49:11 GMT
cant work us out?
what a load of bollox.
This board has opinions. Different people have different opinions. Some of them are expressed dependent on mood and whatever else might be influencing that at the time. God forbid we all agree. That would be boring. Having said that most people on this board will share the opinion about Man U and most of their fans (i'm being gracious by saying most).
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Post by mightyone on Mar 5, 2015 19:50:53 GMT
I've not got much to say about this thread other thank fuck off you dirty manc cunt. We've got enough arseholes on here already without you adding to them... Brilliant mate absolutely pissed myself when I read your post. Love it, UTMP
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 19:52:09 GMT
Greed mate is the word! I am happy with my league cup win. Just want the F.a. Cup now. Tell us what you want from Manu. I know already, but there you go! Like I say, greed! Your team and the other greed driven clubs. You must know who they are! I've worked with Utd fans, and some of them were cracking lads, but I'm afraid to say, there are also a lot of smug so and so,s!
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 5, 2015 19:59:28 GMT
You know me, brother. I'm a nervous fucking wreck. But loving the hell out of this ride. Hold on in there buddy, I have a feeling it can only get better. Agreed. And dare to dream what next season holds, with a healthy full boat. I cant even imagine.
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Post by uknorse on Mar 5, 2015 20:00:24 GMT
you must be bored, or stuck in traffic on the bus to depford....whilst we thank you for your observations, this site is reserved for genuine football fans, and alas, that concept will be lost on you, why dont u run along to an nfl, or baseball forum and share your expertise there where you will be warmly received.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 20:06:50 GMT
Greed mate is the word! I am happy with my league cup win. Just want the F.a. Cup now. Tell us what you want from Manu. I know already, but there you go! Like I say, greed! Your team and the other greed driven clubs. You must know who they are! I've worked with Utd fans, and some of them were cracking lads, but I'm afraid to say, there are also a lot of smug so and so,s! If in a few seasons time, Coates has funded a competitive transfer kitty and Hughes has delivered on the signings and team performance, such that Stoke are in touching distance of a Champions league spot and some silverware, wouldn't your expectations for Stoke be higher than where they are now? Wouldn't you be disappointed if they ended the season with nothing or would you say to yourself that your wanting your team to win something was just greed? Why do you expect United fans to think they should not want the same, when they are in that position now?
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Mar 5, 2015 20:26:03 GMT
To be honest you make a fair point and those who disagree on here probably need to rethink. The simple fact is though supporting a club like Stoke is about extreme views due to the passion and the anxiety of possibly losing the thread and, like many similar clubs to us in the premier league, losing it all with one mad season. We happen to live in a city that is struggling more than many others and our football club means a lot to us. I am not sure why you have decided to post this on here because you could have posted it on any of the non top seven clubs websites. Perhaps you have a soft spot for us? To be honest, unlike other fans on here I don't dislike any other team in the premier league I only dislike individuals or certain supporters but United aren't among my personal dislikes. But the simple fact is a lot of people on here don't like United and I think that is because you are perceived, regardless of any link's that you are supported by the television and slippers brigade and nothing is worse than some idiot telling you they have supported United all their lives and the reason is 'its the first team I watched on telly' or 'my dad liked them'. It really is pitiful. If you are genuinely a local and have followed them all your life we shouldn't really have a problem with you on here. But shit fan will probably always be the measure of United fans to us as most people we come into contact with who 'support' United are knobs and, yes you guessed it 'shit' fans. Thanks for your observations, but look around a bit and you will see we aren't much different to any other medium sized club knocking around the premier league. Thanks for the measured response and yes I was born in Harpurhey, lived in Stockport, Salford, Bury ... I've been a United fan since childhood and went to games whenever I could. We do exist! Okay. Why don't you clarify for us. As an authentic supporter what you think of your fellow "fans" who picked your club from a catalogue? Sent from my GT-I8190N using proboards
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Post by viewfrominside on Mar 5, 2015 20:26:52 GMT
As a Manchester United fan, we've had our fair share of success, but disappointments too, just like any team. Right now, Stoke are doing pretty well and most fans are pretty content with the situation. What I don't get is the bi-polar nature of most of you. Bi-polar depression is extreme highs and extreme lows and this seems to epitomize most on here. A couple of wins and probably the best position Stoke has achieved so far in the Premiere league and Hughes is the best manager in history, a shoe in for Manager of the year and about to receive a knighthood and sainthood. A couple of weeks ago, Stoke lose to the bitters, which was a likely outcome, and suddenly, the sky is falling & Hughes should have been dragged to the centre spot and beheaded immediately. As much as I like Hughes, I find it unlikely a Manager outside the top 4 is going to receive manager of the month, let alone, manager of the year; that's just the way those nonsense awards work. I especially don't get all the doom and gloom after a loss. You'd think Stoke never lost a game before. Stoke: A perspective free zone. I don't get a man utd supporter interested in stoke fans enough to post on a stoke forum, you really should be more concerned about how Van Gaal has spent a shit load of cash and if the league was as strong as in years gone by you would be outside the top 6 right now because your current lot arn't fit to lace the boots of man utd teams of years gone by. Just my opinion of course
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 20:26:59 GMT
That's a load of B, and you know it. By the way, the majority of Manu fans expect it!
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Mar 5, 2015 20:33:42 GMT
I've not got much to say about this thread other thank fuck off you dirty manc cunt. We've got enough arseholes on here already without you adding to them... Quality response, as Roy Walker used to say "say what you see"
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Post by boothenender on Mar 5, 2015 20:48:20 GMT
I agree that most Stoke City fans are fickle. I agree that ALL Man U fans are WANKERS.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 21:00:47 GMT
Thanks for the measured response and yes I was born in Harpurhey, lived in Stockport, Salford, Bury ... I've been a United fan since childhood and went to games whenever I could. We do exist! Okay. Why don't you clarify for us. As an authentic supporter what you think of your fellow "fans" who picked your club from a catalogue? Sent from my GT-I8190N using proboards The same as what you think, for those on a bandwagon, but I do believe people can be genuine fans of a team in a city they weren't born in. There's a difference between someone who picks a team, buys a shirt and sits in a bar in Hong Kong with their mates, so they have someone to root for on the tv, compared to the person who loves football and followed a team like Man United because they liked their style of play and have been following them for many years, watching every televised game they could. I was lucky to be born in Manchester and be a United fan, but I don't begrudge people in Asia being United fans and consider myself more of a fan, just because I won the football fan lottery of being born English and Mancunian. I now live in the U.S. and I support United as much as I did there, except not being able to attend games. In fact, football coverage is far better here than it ever was when I lived in Manchester. It's not the same as going to a game, but it's much better than not being able to go to a game and trying not to find out the result before M.O.T.D came on, which is pretty much impossible if you lived in Manchester back then in the 70's, 80's and 90's. I think choosing a team to support and continuing to support them is commendable and it doesn't matter that a Stoke fan was born in Bangladesh or Stoke. If they buy a shirt, based on who is topping the league right now, they're not really a fan, are they?
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 5, 2015 21:02:12 GMT
My first reaction on opening this post was "Why should a ManU fan go onto Oatcake to criticise Stokies?" The answer came in the first paragraph with supercilious comments that show little understanding of the emotional outbursts of people who hold a deep passion for their team. As we know most ManU fans are only supporters because they think they have the best chance of basking in the reflected glory of their club's achievements.
The second paragraph is just simply untrue and a gross misrepresentation of Oatcake posters. Most Stokies are growing a huge admiration for what Hughes is achieving at Stoke in less than 2 years and on a shoestring budget, but most of us (IMO) still believe if everything stopped today that Hughes contribution to the club is not yet as great as Pulis' and Waddington's contributions to Stoke. Nor are we so deluded as to think any of them figure significantly in the annals of greatest football club managers.
The article leaves me with the confirmed belief that there an awful lot of arrogant, magniloquent and deluded supporters of clubs like ManU (and others) that have a distorted view of the world from their "upper echelon" in football society, and feel compelled to impose their views on those "less blessed" than themselves.
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Post by marwood on Mar 5, 2015 21:05:55 GMT
Hi Manumasochist
It's a shame you've come on in good faith and got some abuse. Personally I'm glad you're here so we can get some perspective on things. It's easy to become blinkered only reading one message board. I'd welcome your insights into the following.
1) Can you take kettles into Old Trafford? Do stewards check for PATS testing? Wattage capacity of your extension leads? 2) I presume selfie sticks are compulsory given the nature of your fans? 3) if you tripped over a cable whilst running from the ground, which was actually running from the ground itself to the car park, would you automatically assume it was a an escaped snake, or a cable beaming your exploits to Man utds supporters club Singapore? 4) do you welcome traditional,flat capped football fans of Yore, with an affinity for bovril and greenwoods? If so, why the Nazi attitude to the flasks at your place? 5) what will be the topic of **************s next thread? Surely he's covered everything by now? 6) what colour is the dress?
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 21:08:00 GMT
My first reaction on opening this post was "Why should a ManU fan go onto Oatcake to criticise Stokies?" The answer came in the first paragraph with supercilious comments that show little understanding of the emotional outbursts of people who hold a deep passion for their team. As we know most ManU fans are only supporters because they think they have the best chance of basking in the reflected glory of their club's achievements. The second paragraph is just simply untrue and a gross misrepresentation of Oatcake posters. Most Stokies are growing a huge admiration for what Hughes is achieving at Stoke in less than 2 years and on a shoestring budget, but most of us (IMO) still believe if everything stopped today that Hughes contribution to the club is not yet as great as Pulis' and Waddington's contributions to Stoke. Nor are we so deluded as to think any of them figure significantly in the annals of greatest football club managers. The article leaves me with the confirmed belief that there an awful lot of arrogant, magniloquent and deluded supporters of clubs like ManU (and others) that have a distorted view of the world from their "upper echelon" in football society, and feel compelled to impose their views on those "less blessed" than themselves. Clearly there are some arrogant, supercilious, mid-table team, fans too.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Mar 5, 2015 21:09:56 GMT
My first reaction on opening this post was "Why should a ManU fan go onto Oatcake to criticise Stokies?" The answer came in the first paragraph with supercilious comments that show little understanding of the emotional outbursts of people who hold a deep passion for their team. As we know most ManU fans are only supporters because they think they have the best chance of basking in the reflected glory of their club's achievements. The second paragraph is just simply untrue and a gross misrepresentation of Oatcake posters. Most Stokies are growing a huge admiration for what Hughes is achieving at Stoke in less than 2 years and on a shoestring budget, but most of us (IMO) still believe if everything stopped today that Hughes contribution to the club is not yet as great as Pulis' and Waddington's contributions to Stoke. Nor are we so deluded as to think any of them figure significantly in the annals of greatest football club managers. The article leaves me with the confirmed belief that there an awful lot of arrogant, magniloquent and deluded supporters of clubs like ManU (and others) that have a distorted view of the world from their "upper echelon" in football society, and feel compelled to impose their views on those "less blessed" than themselves. Clearly there are some arrogant, supercilious, mid-table team, fans too. You still here
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Post by kevkj on Mar 5, 2015 21:11:28 GMT
That wish you would fuck off you boring bastard.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 21:16:44 GMT
Hi Manumasochist It's a shame you've come on in good faith and got some abuse. Personally I'm glad you're here so we can get some perspective on things. It's easy to become blinkered only reading one message board. I'd welcome your insights into the following. 1) Can you take kettles into Old Trafford? Do stewards check for PATS testing? Wattage capacity of your extension leads? 2) I presume selfie sticks are compulsory given the nature of your fans? 3) if you tripped over a cable whilst running from the ground, which was actually running from the ground itself to the car park, would you automatically assume it was a an escaped snake, or a cable beaming your exploits to Man utds supporters club Singapore? 4) do you welcome traditional,flat capped football fans of Yore, with an affinity for bovril and greenwoods? If so, why the Nazi attitude to the flasks at your place? 5) what will be the topic of **************s next thread? Surely he's covered everything by now? 6) what colour is the dress? 1. Yes. Yes you can. No Pats test and 200 Watts. 2. Yes, compulsory selfie sticks. There's also a plethora of bandwagons that are brought out, after a win, for us to jump on and sing about how we are by far the greatest team, the world has ever seen. 3. I would think it was another of those pesky kettle leads everyone brings. 4. They certainly do. They have a half-time game where they try to land prawn sandwiches on to the flat caps and anyone with a prawn sandwich that stayed on their heads gets ejected from the game. The winner is the prawn sandwich fan who gets the most flat cap fans ejected. The flask issue is purely financial. They want to sell tap water to anyone bringing their own cuppa provisions. 5. There's always one more thing, surely? 6. There is no dress. Glad to help.
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Post by bobthethrob on Mar 5, 2015 21:18:59 GMT
Jiminy cricket mate, I been bored a few times in me life.
Once I went down bottom of our street with a stick and sat by the road picking the moss out of the gaps between the paving slabs.
But IDE NEVER GO ON ANOTHER TEAMS MESSAGE BOARD . Crikey.
Fair enough, you say it's cos hughes is our manager.
Well even so, I wouldn't go on the MAN UTS SITE EVEN IF NELLO WAS THE MANAGER
mind you he'd probably win summat for you lot
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 21:23:23 GMT
Jiminy cricket mate, I been bored a few times in me life. Once I went down bottom of our street with a stick and sat by the road picking the moss out of the gaps between the paving slabs. But IDE NEVER GO ON ANOTHER TEAMS MESSAGE BOARD . Crikey. Fair enough, you say it's cos hughes is our manager. Well even so, I wouldn't go on the MAN UTS SITE EVEN IF NELLO WAS THE MANAGER mind you he'd probably win summat for you lot It's just a website. I'm not attending a Stoke City supporters club meeting. I could never get that bored.
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Post by gothicstokelover on Mar 5, 2015 21:33:25 GMT
As a Stoke fan we don't take things for granted.
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Post by potternation on Mar 5, 2015 21:40:41 GMT
As a Manchester United fan, we've had our fair share of success, but disappointments too, just like any team. Right now, Stoke are doing pretty well and most fans are pretty content with the situation. What I don't get is the bi-polar nature of most of you. Bi-polar depression is extreme highs and extreme lows and this seems to epitomize most on here. A couple of wins and probably the best position Stoke has achieved so far in the Premiere league and Hughes is the best manager in history, a shoe in for Manager of the year and about to receive a knighthood and sainthood. A couple of weeks ago, Stoke lose to the bitters, which was a likely outcome, and suddenly, the sky is falling & Hughes should have been dragged to the centre spot and beheaded immediately. As much as I like Hughes, I find it unlikely a Manager outside the top 4 is going to receive manager of the month, let alone, manager of the year; that's just the way those nonsense awards work. I especially don't get all the doom and gloom after a loss. You'd think Stoke never lost a game before. Stoke: A perspective free zone. What a patronising prick. Put simply, fuck off. Couldn't have said it better myself
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 21:54:59 GMT
What a patronising prick. Put simply, fuck off. Couldn't have said it better myself I believe you.
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Post by partickpotter on Mar 5, 2015 21:58:28 GMT
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Post by blackpoolred on Mar 5, 2015 22:09:09 GMT
As a Manchester United fan, we've had our fair share of success, but disappointments too, just like any team. Right now, Stoke are doing pretty well and most fans are pretty content with the situation. What I don't get is the bi-polar nature of most of you. Bi-polar depression is extreme highs and extreme lows and this seems to epitomize most on here. A couple of wins and probably the best position Stoke has achieved so far in the Premiere league and Hughes is the best manager in history, a shoe in for Manager of the year and about to receive a knighthood and sainthood. A couple of weeks ago, Stoke lose to the bitters, which was a likely outcome, and suddenly, the sky is falling & Hughes should have been dragged to the centre spot and beheaded immediately. As much as I like Hughes, I find it unlikely a Manager outside the top 4 is going to receive manager of the month, let alone, manager of the year; that's just the way those nonsense awards work. I especially don't get all the doom and gloom after a loss. You'd think Stoke never lost a game before. Stoke: A perspective free zone. Welcome aboard, we love a bit of banter with other fans - same can't be said of your chat boards though. Although the majority of United's chat boards are written in Mandarin these days A question for you, what do you think of your current managers outbrake against big Sam - I was cringing, a bit, for you.
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