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Post by partickpotter on Dec 11, 2014 10:47:18 GMT
Focussing on the positives - really enjoying Taylor and Root bat. Some superb batting and great running.
Oh - and well done for the 50 Mr Taylor. Now go on and get a winning ton!
Edit: they've just posted a 100 partnership. The first of the series for us. Loving this!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2014 11:33:56 GMT
If we bat properly ( no need for flash bang wallop approach ) we should be able to do it comfortably . Well we are underway. Some initial thoughts. Cook couldn't have scripted a better start; long hop first ball that is (or should be) meat and drink to any decent batsman. And Cook put it away comfortably. Managed a streaky 4 from an edge - but so what. He's got a quick start. And he's had a life - amazing Sri Lanka didn't appeal that LBW shout. And he's just had a second life! Same ball. You might imagine from this it's going to be his day. But he looks so tentative. Stuck in his crease prodding away. Amazing that Sri Lanka have used a long off to Cook giving him easy push singles. Ali should have listened to your words of advice. No need for that kamikaze charge. Taylor looks great - brilliant to see his urgency at the start of his innings. Looking to work the ball in the field for quick singles. Ali - take note. It's not all about mashing the ball over the top! He's working his partner hard! That said, he just used his feet to blast a superb 6 over long on. Love this guy! He is struggling , sorry to see him like this , hoping he is going to get a score but it doesn't seem to be happening for him . Moeen is a fine player at the top of the order , he is there to score boundaries .....but everything does not need to go for four or six , especially when we are batting second and chasing a moderate score ....shot selection should still apply even in the role he is playing .its obvious that he will fail from time to time playing the way he does but quite frankly the way he has thrown his wicket away needlessly in the last two games is absurd , he needs to take a look at himself in that context , I'm sure he is intelligent enough to learn from his mistakes .Taylor has played a smashing little innings there , played the ball on its merits and at just the rightt tempo ....excellent .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2014 11:38:25 GMT
Every ball that comes down at Cook, you are expecting him to get out. The Selectors realy have fucked up insisting he must play in the W/C. Really ? He is out of sorts I agree , but he doesn't look that clueless .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2014 11:43:39 GMT
It was setup for Cook. Easy run rate to get - just his game. I'm struggling to see how much longer this can go on. I don't think it is helping Cook either. It will go on untill he gets a score and plays himself back into some sort of form or the World Cup has come and gone in the meantime .....it's obvious that this is the policy that England are determined to stick to...they have stated it several times and nailed their colours to the mast by naming him captain for the World Cup
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2014 11:48:42 GMT
Focussing on the positives - really enjoying Taylor and Root bat. Some superb batting and great running. Oh - and well done for the 50 Mr Taylor. Now go on and get a winning ton! Edit: they've just posted a 100 partnership. The first of the series for us. Loving this! Yes I agree .....it's best to focus on the positives ......hopefully the other things will fall into place before long , enjoyable to watch today .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2014 12:10:18 GMT
Well played Joe Root a great hundred and a great win for England .....pity the pictures went down and we couldn't see It !
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 11, 2014 12:10:46 GMT
England win by 5 wkts.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 11, 2014 13:16:36 GMT
Well played Joe Root a great hundred and a great win for England .....pity the pictures went down and we couldn't see It ! Wonderful century by Root. He looked very confident from his first ball. His partnership with Taylor was magnificent. One of England's best recent ODI wins.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 11, 2014 13:30:11 GMT
It was setup for Cook. Easy run rate to get - just his game. I'm struggling to see how much longer this can go on. I don't think it is helping Cook either. It will go on untill he gets a score and plays himself back into some sort of form or the World Cup has come and gone in the meantime .....it's obvious that this is the policy that England are determined to stick to...they have stated it several times and nailed their colours to the mast by naming him captain for the World Cup The policy is insane. Bear this in mind. If Cook hadn't been suspended, Taylor wouldn't have got a game! Now one of the hottest prospects in ODI cricket (Hayles) is being excluded to accommodate Cook. Frankly Cook needs to bite the bullet because the management team clearly don't have the balls. I don't have much expectation, just a huge sense of frustration.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2014 13:51:35 GMT
It will go on untill he gets a score and plays himself back into some sort of form or the World Cup has come and gone in the meantime .....it's obvious that this is the policy that England are determined to stick to...they have stated it several times and nailed their colours to the mast by naming him captain for the World Cup The policy is insane. Bear this in mind. If Cook hadn't been suspended, Taylor wouldn't have got a game! Now one of the hottest prospects in ODI cricket (Hayles) is being excluded to accommodate Cook. Frankly Cook needs to bite the bullet because the management team clearly don't have the balls. I don't have much expectation, just a huge sense of frustration. Well it is without doubt a stubborn one , whether that stems from Cook or the management or both I'm not sure . it's no secret that I'm a big admirer of the Captain and I've defended him in the hope that he will come good in the end .....it's reached the point I suppose where something probably has to give now if he doesn't run into form very shortly .I agree about Taylor , I'm not sure that the inclusion of the Captain in the team can be cited as persecution of Hales , but I would like to see Hales given an extended opportunity in the side to prove himself ....we don't know yet whether he is the genuine article at this level .....but to find that out he has to play of course
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Post by 2004 on Dec 11, 2014 15:10:47 GMT
Well done Rooty!
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 11, 2014 17:53:47 GMT
Taylor is absolute mustard in the limited overs format, averaged around 90 in the One Day Domestic cup and so glad to see he's been given a chance to shine on the international level again. With the scores he's got too, he hasn't disappointed. Joe Root was absolutely sensational today.
Whilst I'll think we'll lose this series and hold no hopes for the World Cup, there are small signs of recovery and progression in this side.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 13, 2014 3:29:11 GMT
Time to save the series gentlemen.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 13, 2014 8:58:47 GMT
Well Captain Cock Up has had another miserable day.
If dropping Sangakara wasn't bad enough, he's once again failed in the run chase. Didn't even get a start this time to look his (sadly) usual hesitant tentative self prodding at the ball. Just another LBW.
When will he decide to go. This series has been a disaster for him - but no surprise to most watchers of cricket.
So now to the young ones. Taylor looks very good again at this early stage, Ali is a bit of a concern; he's batting like his head is on fire. Needs to calm down. He's good enough to pick up the scoring rate at any time. That, BTW, is why Hales is a better opener. He can pace an innings much better. But Hayles can't get in this team. Why? Oh, I give up...
Edit; thinking about it, Ali is starting to resemble Kieswetter as an opener. It's boundary or dot ball; 4, 6 or nothing. As in that last over!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2014 9:35:35 GMT
Well Captain Cock Up has had another miserable day. If dropping Sangakara wasn't bad enough, he's once again failed in the run chase. Didn't even get a start this time to look his (sadly) usual hesitant tentative self prodding at the ball. Just another LBW. When will he decide to go. This series has been a disaster for him - but no surprise to most watchers of cricket. So now to the young ones. Taylor looks very good again at this early stage, Ali is a bit of a concern; he's batting like his head is on fire. Needs to calm down. He's good enough to pick up the scoring rate at any time. That, BTW, is why Hales is a better opener. He can pace an innings much better. But Hayles can't get in this team. Why? Oh, I give up... Edit; thinking about it, Ali is starting to resemble Kieswetter as an opener. It's boundary or dot ball; 4, 6 or nothing. As in that last over! I watched the whole Sri Lanka innings and I have to say that putting the dolly catch to one side Cook's captaincy was pitiful. The amount of times he moved fielders around on the back of boundaries only to see the ball get hit through the previous gap was embarrasing. It's schoolboy/club captaincy at best. The "tactic" of basically telling the batsmen that we're going to bowl a bouncer is also worrying, as a batsmen you pretty much know what ball is coming. It was piss poor and Cook needs to the blame he's an exprienced cricketer.....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2014 9:53:28 GMT
Oh dear Morgan, golden duck! He only hits runs when he's captain, Cook is not a one day player/captain.
Message to the selectors, the solution is staring you in the face!
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Post by Squeekster on Dec 13, 2014 9:58:12 GMT
How can he give Bopara out? He can't see or prove that the ball didn't touch the ground and on the last replay it seems like he scoops it into his arm pit on the sweep round.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 13, 2014 10:01:55 GMT
Well Captain Cock Up has had another miserable day. If dropping Sangakara wasn't bad enough, he's once again failed in the run chase. Didn't even get a start this time to look his (sadly) usual hesitant tentative self prodding at the ball. Just another LBW. When will he decide to go. This series has been a disaster for him - but no surprise to most watchers of cricket. So now to the young ones. Taylor looks very good again at this early stage, Ali is a bit of a concern; he's batting like his head is on fire. Needs to calm down. He's good enough to pick up the scoring rate at any time. That, BTW, is why Hales is a better opener. He can pace an innings much better. But Hayles can't get in this team. Why? Oh, I give up... Edit; thinking about it, Ali is starting to resemble Kieswetter as an opener. It's boundary or dot ball; 4, 6 or nothing. As in that last over! I watched the whole Sri Lanka innings and I have to say that putting the dolly catch to one side Cook's captaincy was pitiful. The amount of times he moved fielders around on the back of boundaries only to see the ball get hit through the previous gap was embarrasing. It's schoolboy/club captaincy at best. The "tactic" of basically telling the batsmen that we're going to bowl a bouncer is also worrying, as a batsmen you pretty much know what ball is coming. It was piss poor and Cook needs to the blame he's an exprienced cricketer..... I don't think he's ever been much of a captain, but that like every part of his game has gone to pot. He is frazzled! Sadly, for English cricket, there is no indication that he'll be put out his misery. I fear for him in the summer's Ashes which is where we need him on form. But back to the run chase; 5 wickets down now. Some good balls, some poor shots. But if we're going to win it's the current pair that will do it. And if they do it will be glorious! I live forever in hope.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 13, 2014 10:03:41 GMT
How can he give Bopara out? He can't see or prove that the ball didn't touch the ground and on the last replay it seems like he scoops it into his arm pit on the sweep round. It was out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2014 10:07:24 GMT
How can he give Bopara out? He can't see or prove that the ball didn't touch the ground and on the last replay it seems like he scoops it into his arm pit on the sweep round. That was out for me ....I don't think he would claim it if he didn't catch it ...he is one of the old school of players
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2014 10:15:49 GMT
Well Captain Cock Up has had another miserable day. If dropping Sangakara wasn't bad enough, he's once again failed in the run chase. Didn't even get a start this time to look his (sadly) usual hesitant tentative self prodding at the ball. Just another LBW. When will he decide to go. This series has been a disaster for him - but no surprise to most watchers of cricket. So now to the young ones. Taylor looks very good again at this early stage, Ali is a bit of a concern; he's batting like his head is on fire. Needs to calm down. He's good enough to pick up the scoring rate at any time. That, BTW, is why Hales is a better opener. He can pace an innings much better. But Hayles can't get in this team. Why? Oh, I give up... Edit; thinking about it, Ali is starting to resemble Kieswetter as an opener. It's boundary or dot ball; 4, 6 or nothing. As in that last over! Regarding Ali , he looks a marvelous player when he plays straight , hitting through the line of the ball .....and it's effective , the tactic that he's has been employing against spin , that awful heave come slog /sweep is atrocious and though it's got him a few runs , it's getting him out time and time again ...having said that the ball that got him out today was virtually unplayable and it was a stunning catch by Sangakara . I'm not going to comment on Cook today as enough has been already said on the subject .....further comment is superfluous .
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 13, 2014 10:19:32 GMT
How can he give Bopara out? He can't see or prove that the ball didn't touch the ground and on the last replay it seems like he scoops it into his arm pit on the sweep round. That was out for me ....I don't think he would claim it if he didn't catch it ...he is one of the old school of players Agreed. Also, you could see the pain on his face was caused by the ball jamming into his ribs as it was wedged in the crook of his arm. That looked very sore. I thought he did really well to get the ball in his glove as he rolled onto his back.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2014 10:19:49 GMT
Oh dear Morgan, golden duck! He only hits runs when he's captain, Cook is not a one day player/captain. Message to the selectors, the solution is staring you in the face! And he is rarely captain is he ? His " indispensable " innings of the other day has been something of a rarity over the last year and a half or so .....yet he is touted as permanent captain by some in the media ....with what justification ?
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Post by Squeekster on Dec 13, 2014 10:22:31 GMT
How can he give Bopara out? He can't see or prove that the ball didn't touch the ground and on the last replay it seems like he scoops it into his arm pit on the sweep round. It was out. At best 50/50 for me so advantage batsman, no conclusive proof either way has to be not out. Not that it seems to matter now it'll be over soon we'll do well to get 175 here.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 13, 2014 10:23:35 GMT
Oh dear Morgan, golden duck! He only hits runs when he's captain, Cook is not a one day player/captain. Message to the selectors, the solution is staring you in the face! And he is rarely captain is he ? His " indispensable " innings of the other day has been something of a rarity over the last year and a half or so .....yet he is touted as permanent captain by some in the media ....with what justification ? Why do we seem to start our selection thinking by deciding who is the captain. We are getting ourselves tuned up in knots with this approach. Better to puck your best 11 players, then decide who is Captain.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2014 10:28:48 GMT
That was out for me ....I don't think he would claim it if he didn't catch it ...he is one of the old school of players Agreed. Also, you could see the pain on his face was caused by the ball jamming into his ribs as it was wedged in the crook of his arm. That looked very sore. I thought he did really well to get the ball in his glove as he rolled onto his back. Yes it was a good catch .....he is still a top class wicket keeper , although he only does it in one day cricket these days .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2014 10:30:29 GMT
Oh dear Morgan, golden duck! He only hits runs when he's captain, Cook is not a one day player/captain. Message to the selectors, the solution is staring you in the face! And he is rarely captain is he ? His " indispensable " innings of the other day has been something of a rarity over the last year and a half or so .....yet he is touted as permanent captain by some in the media ....with what justification ? It was tongue in cheek to be fair, Morgan's batting is as woeful as Cook's captaincy at the moment. You've played plenty of cricket Bish, I know you like to cut Cook slack and I respect you for that, but following the ball is what we used to do playing 2nd XI or u-18's cricket not from an experienced cricketer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2014 10:33:15 GMT
And he is rarely captain is he ? His " indispensable " innings of the other day has been something of a rarity over the last year and a half or so .....yet he is touted as permanent captain by some in the media ....with what justification ? Why do we seem to start our selection thinking by deciding who is the captain. We are getting ourselves tuned up in knots with this approach. Better to puck your best 11 players, then decide who is Captain. That is a method that I've always been in favour of ....the way the Australians do it .....it has caused countless problems over the years , when you think back, Tony Lewis, Mike Denness , Mike Brearley even to a certain extent Ray Illingworth and if you go even further back there are many other further examples .....yes pick your best team , then the captain , I'm all for that approach .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2014 10:39:52 GMT
And he is rarely captain is he ? His " indispensable " innings of the other day has been something of a rarity over the last year and a half or so .....yet he is touted as permanent captain by some in the media ....with what justification ? It was tongue in cheek to be fair, Morgan's batting is as woeful as Cook's captaincy at the moment. You've played plenty of cricket Bish, I know you like to cut Cook slack and I respect you for that, but following the ball is what we used to do playing 2nd XI or u-18's cricket not from an experienced cricketer. I know it was tongue in cheek mate .the thing is when you are struggling with your own form in the way that Cook is , if you are also the captain it tends to to affect your judgement in the field as well .....his mind is obviously in turmoil at the moment , I know that tactically he is not the best captain to have played cricket ...but ball following is something that you do tend to do when the mind goes blank ! Not excusing it at all but you do see it more than you think .....Nasser Hussain was often guilty of it in the past
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 13, 2014 10:40:44 GMT
Disappointing end to Butler's knock. A soft dismissal.
But now opportunity knocks for Woakes. Score 70 or 80 here and that #8 spot is yours. Chance for some glory - go and take it.
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