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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 18:46:25 GMT
So this guy is convicted of rape, tried in a court of law, found guilty and given a sentence.
Now regardless of the history around the rape he was done and served his time as a punishment.
What I don't get is the media jizzfest about how he should NEVER EVER play football again.
Why not. He's done his time and been punished.
What's the issue
GD
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 12, 2014 18:50:44 GMT
Just what we need - another thread on the subject, GD!  PS - I do agree with you though - but put it on the right thread there's a good chap! |
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Nov 12, 2014 18:53:40 GMT
Maybe something to do with the message it sends out, these players are role models.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 18:57:56 GMT
Sorry Botty prober I didn't know there was another thread about it on here I don't spend my life reading this board  GD |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 12, 2014 18:58:14 GMT
He's a convicted rapist I get it but (especially the bbc) keep referring him as convicted rapist ched evans. Mike Tyson isn't referred as convicted rapist Mike Tyson
A lot of people will have egg on their faces if his case his reviewed and he wins
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 12, 2014 18:59:28 GMT
I've not seen any jizzfest about them saying he should never ever play again, what have I missed?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 18:59:47 GMT
Botty prober,
Looked but can't find it. Where is it ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 19:01:25 GMT
I've not seen any jizzfest about them saying he should never ever play again, what have I missed? Its been in and out of the media for a while. The Mirror (being the paragons of virtue they are) were on about it again today. GD |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 12, 2014 19:02:50 GMT
Botty prober, Looked but can't find it. Where is it ? GD Can't be arsed to find it - try the Oatie board search facility! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 19:04:53 GMT
Don't lecture then.
Typical civil servant X
GD
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Post by upthefud on Nov 12, 2014 19:06:38 GMT
Lee Hughes committed manslaughter yet there wasn't this ridiculous media circus flying about like there is on Evans.
Given the available evidence how the fuck he was convicted in the first place I'll never know!! Three times she's cried rape.
Anyway. He's served his time. He's got every right to carry on with his life.
I'm sickened by the appalling outcry over a man trying to find work
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Post by sportsman on Nov 12, 2014 19:09:24 GMT
Peter barlow was convicted of murded by a jury. He didn't do it.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 12, 2014 19:22:34 GMT
Lee Hughes committed manslaughter yet there wasn't this ridiculous media circus flying about like there is on Evans. Given the available evidence how the fuck he was convicted in the first place I'll never know!! Three times she's cried rape. Anyway. He's served his time. He's got every right to carry on with his life. I'm sickened by the appalling outcry over a man trying to find work Lee Hughes didn't try to over turn it did he, thats probably why, if Evans came out after his time and quietly got on with things then I'm pretty sure it would't be getting the same exposure. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 12, 2014 19:23:12 GMT
I've not seen any jizzfest about them saying he should never ever play again, what have I missed? Its been in and out of the media for a while. The Mirror (being the paragons of virtue they are) were on about it again today. GD Oh, you mean reporting it and his on going denial rather than saying he shouldn't play again? |
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Post by upthefud on Nov 12, 2014 19:29:28 GMT
Lee Hughes committed manslaughter yet there wasn't this ridiculous media circus flying about like there is on Evans. Given the available evidence how the fuck he was convicted in the first place I'll never know!! Three times she's cried rape. Anyway. He's served his time. He's got every right to carry on with his life. I'm sickened by the appalling outcry over a man trying to find work Lee Hughes didn't try to over turn it did he, thats probably why, if Evans came out after his time and quietly got on with things then I'm pretty sure it would't be getting the same exposure. If you're innocent though you wouldn't drop it, would you? I'll be very surprised if he doesn't win his appeal |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 19:31:34 GMT
Its been in and out of the media for a while. The Mirror (being the paragons of virtue they are) were on about it again today. GD Oh, you mean reporting it and his on going denial rather than saying he shouldn't play again? Yep that's the one. Also today BBC today going on about a sponsor withdrawing their money if he plays, multiple press outlets Online/Paper reporting about Charlie Webster having her say and that cunt Nick Clegg (being another paragon of virtue) wading in about him being a role model. (Fuck me as if politicians have a moral high ground). And all that is before I try and google it ! GD |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 19:36:21 GMT
This role model business is one of my pet hates.
There are very few footballers I can think of who set themselves up, or even want to be role models. And if they are, it's only for what they do on the pitch. Rooney's the England captain, so surely, he should be whiter than white off the pitch, but he clearly ain't.
If parents did a better job of bringing their kids up, then maybe the parents would be the only role models that actually counted. I doubt Evans set himself up to be a role model, so I don't see why he should be penalised for not being so hot as a person.
He's done his time (well OK, half of it, but that's another issue). Now let him do something he's good at rather than punishing him again, just because he's a footballer.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Nov 12, 2014 19:39:05 GMT
He was convicted by the legal system of this country. If he has right of appeal I don't understand why he didn't do it earlier. What I truly don't understand is why he is the main topic of a Stoke City message board.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Nov 12, 2014 19:41:23 GMT
This role model business is one of my pet hates. There are very few footballers I can think of who set themselves up, or even want to be role models. And if they are, it's only for what they do on the pitch. Rooney's the England captain, so surely, he should be whiter than white off the pitch, but he clearly ain't. If parents did a better job of bringing their kids up, then maybe the parents would be the only role models that actually counted. I doubt Evans set himself up to be a role model, so I don't see why he should be penalised for not being so hot as a person. He's done his time (well OK, half of it, but that's another issue). Now let him do something he's good at rather than punishing him again, just because he's a footballer. How is that. I am not a Rooney fan at all, but how on earth can you compare. |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 12, 2014 19:45:43 GMT
So some bird who hates men from rape crisis has been moaning about it on SSN
Funny she hasn't addressed the issue of false claims previously made by the alleged victim
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 19:46:43 GMT
This role model business is one of my pet hates. There are very few footballers I can think of who set themselves up, or even want to be role models. And if they are, it's only for what they do on the pitch. Rooney's the England captain, so surely, he should be whiter than white off the pitch, but he clearly ain't. If parents did a better job of bringing their kids up, then maybe the parents would be the only role models that actually counted. I doubt Evans set himself up to be a role model, so I don't see why he should be penalised for not being so hot as a person. He's done his time (well OK, half of it, but that's another issue). Now let him do something he's good at rather than punishing him again, just because he's a footballer. How is that. I am not a Rooney fan at all, but how on earth can you compare. I'm not comparing. I'm talking about role models. |
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Nov 12, 2014 19:52:33 GMT
Forgive me but in the context of the thread and your comments, your post is a comparison.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 20:00:50 GMT
Forgive me but in the context of the thread and your comments, your post is a comparison. Only if you want it to be. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 12, 2014 20:15:18 GMT
Lee Hughes didn't try to over turn it did he, thats probably why, if Evans came out after his time and quietly got on with things then I'm pretty sure it would't be getting the same exposure. If you're innocent though you wouldn't drop it, would you? I'll be very surprised if he doesn't win his appeal No, as I've said to someone else, I don't blame him for keeping it going, its just not its not very comparable to the Hughes situation. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 20:16:58 GMT
1 girl, 2 men.
Both men sleep with the girl.
The girls condition (drunkeness) doesn't change between the 2 men sleeping with her.
1 guilty, 1 not guilty.
I can't be bothered to research the case, but something doesn't seem right to me.
Irrespective of that, he served his time, so should be free to persue a career.
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Nov 12, 2014 20:17:04 GMT
Evans is trying to get the verdict overturned
He should have kept his head down until the case review takes place (it has been given priority) - until then he is a convicted and unrepentant rapist and will draw publicity on that basis
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 12, 2014 20:19:59 GMT
Oh, you mean reporting it and his on going denial rather than saying he shouldn't play again? Yep that's the one. Also today BBC today going on about a sponsor withdrawing their money if he plays, multiple press outlets Online/Paper reporting about Charlie Webster having her say and that cunt Nick Clegg (being another paragon of virtue) wading in about him being a role model. (Fuck me as if politicians have a moral high ground). And all that is before I try and google it ! GD Oooooh, I've seen all that  , haha my bad, someone should ask Clegg if he feels that people that severed their time should ever have a job in that case, there are plenty of other jobs that serve as role models and I'm pretty sure if he was going for one of those, with a more normal salary, he wouldn't be saying a thing, its nothing but jealousy. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 12, 2014 20:21:13 GMT
Evans is trying to get the verdict overturned He should have kept his head down until the case review takes place (it has been given priority) - until then he is a convicted and unrepentant rapist and will draw publicity on that basis And should still be allowed any job he wants as long as it doesn't break the terms of his release. |
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Nov 12, 2014 20:29:31 GMT
Maybe something to do with the message it sends out, these players are role models. Are you talking about the same message that Liam Lawrence and his 2 mates sent out when they spit-roasted a young girl and filmed it and then uploaded it? Maybe you are talking about Lee Hughes who was responsible for a car crash, that he ran away from at the scene, that resulted in a fella losing his life, leaving his family devastated Perhaps the case of Luke McCormack who ended the lives of 2 children as a result of being over the limit and driving his car into the back of another and off the motorway. All 3 cases have resulted in all forging a career out of Football following either exposure or a prison sentence. Please enlighten us as to how the situation with Ched Evans is different SGS |
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Nov 12, 2014 20:31:55 GMT
He was convicted by the legal system of this country. If he has right of appeal I don't understand why he didn't do it earlier. What I truly don't understand is why he is the main topic of a Stoke City message board. So what. Plenty of people have been convicted of crimes even with limited evidence and many haven't with plenty of evidence. What a stupid point you make SGS |
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, haha my bad, someone should ask Clegg if he feels that people that severed their time should ever have a job in that case, there are plenty of other jobs that serve as role models and I'm pretty sure if he was going for one of those, with a more normal salary, he wouldn't be saying a thing, its nothing but jealousy.
