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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 27, 2014 9:10:56 GMT
Do we know if Hughes is adamant he isn't going - or has he been given reason to believe a decent bid will be considered? And how serious are the likes of Lazio and Sunderland? Lazio is serious, Geoff has been told he will be given opportunity to play in his preferred positions, but will he is the question. He starts tonight but as CB or MF Interesting to see what Hughes has got in mind then. Easy to say if you want to keep someone around - but might prove pretty hard in practice to give him enough opportunitues at CB or midfield for Hughes to make good on that if that's what's happened? He's also got Whelan, Nzonzi, Sidwell and (maybe even) Adam who are going to expect their fair share of minutes in that deeper two in midfield. He's good to have around - but when you've got to actually make the call to give him a start ahead of others, it's tough. RB could still be his best route back in - but if he's not exactly overjoyed at that and with Bardslay probably having to play his way out anyway, it looks reasonably bleak. Suppose only Hughes knows if he's willing to let him go before Monday if the bid is high enough.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Aug 27, 2014 9:38:44 GMT
If we had someone else playing next to Ryan, then Wilson could take his place as back-up for right back and centre back and then losing Cameron is less of a problem. However, unless Huth comes back into the reckoning with Hughes (I have my doubts) then Wilson looks like the position is his to lose. Geoff won't get back in any time soon at right back and he obviously isn't in the running to play in midfield or centre back.
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Post by malteser68 on Aug 27, 2014 9:51:42 GMT
Cameron is one if the best players in this team. And I'm not saying that through bias. I'm maltese not American, I don't harbour any pro-American sentiments, I went to America once to Florida and Texas and hated both places. So that's that. But I have an eye for football and Cameron has very good qualities in that he is as strong and athletic as any other player plus good control of the ball and dynamic going forward. It's obvious that RB is not his best position and I truly believenhebdeserves a chance playing either CB or MF
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Aug 27, 2014 10:21:06 GMT
Lazio is serious, Geoff has been told he will be given opportunity to play in his preferred positions, but will he is the question. He starts tonight but as CB or MF Interesting to see what Hughes has got in mind then. Easy to say if you want to keep someone around - but might prove pretty hard in practice to give him enough opportunitues at CB or midfield for Hughes to make good on that if that's what's happened? He's also got Whelan, Nzonzi, Sidwell and (maybe even) Adam who are going to expect their fair share of minutes in that deeper two in midfield. He's good to have around - but when you've got to actually make the call to give him a start ahead of others, it's tough. RB could still be his best route back in - but if he's not exactly overjoyed at that and with Bardslay probably having to play his way out anyway, it looks reasonably bleak. Suppose only Hughes knows if he's willing to let him go before Monday if the bid is high enough. Isnt Bards injured?
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Post by slpmarc on Aug 27, 2014 10:47:16 GMT
Interesting to see what Hughes has got in mind then. Easy to say if you want to keep someone around - but might prove pretty hard in practice to give him enough opportunitues at CB or midfield for Hughes to make good on that if that's what's happened? He's also got Whelan, Nzonzi, Sidwell and (maybe even) Adam who are going to expect their fair share of minutes in that deeper two in midfield. He's good to have around - but when you've got to actually make the call to give him a start ahead of others, it's tough. RB could still be his best route back in - but if he's not exactly overjoyed at that and with Bardslay probably having to play his way out anyway, it looks reasonably bleak. Suppose only Hughes knows if he's willing to let him go before Monday if the bid is high enough. Isnt Bards injured? Took a knock but been told he ok and will play
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Post by nott1 on Aug 27, 2014 11:21:00 GMT
Swap for Cattermole please!
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Post by foster on Aug 27, 2014 11:30:44 GMT
If he's not pushing for a first team place, wants to leave or isn't in the managers plans then we may as well sell him.
Hopefully get decent money out of it but I'm not convinced we'll get that from an Italian club.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 27, 2014 13:14:34 GMT
I wonder who the first Stoke fan will be to tweet him, call him names and then get blocked because of those tweets? You? I'm already blocked after never tweeting a bad word to the bloke, the forking mardarse!
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Aug 27, 2014 13:34:05 GMT
I'm already blocked after never tweeting a bad word to the bloke, the forking mardarse! Didnt you tell his own agent you thought he was wank?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 27, 2014 13:40:44 GMT
I'm already blocked after never tweeting a bad word to the bloke, the forking mardarse! Didnt you tell his own agent you thought he was wank? Got to be honest haven't you! But that was only after Cameron blocked me and he started following me. Only saying what I'd say to his face.... I do actually like Geoff though, always have done, just not in the back 4.
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Aug 27, 2014 13:45:32 GMT
Didnt you tell his own agent you thought he was wank? Got to be honest haven't you! But that was only after Cameron blocked me and he started following me. Only saying what I'd say to his face.... I do actually like Geoff though, always have done, just not in the back 4. From my understanding you only ever called him a wank RB Touchy sod is Geoff
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Post by ayem on Aug 27, 2014 21:50:10 GMT
Stoke is still the best place for Cameron. All the moves we made this off-season speak of a team wanting to make a run in cup play. The depth of players in utility roles speaks to this. Cameron and PO both came off world cup duties and PO played last game because there was a need. Cameron could rest because Bardsley is fit enough for the role. I think Cameron can hammer out a starting role in the squad, and rotate during cup play. What position do you think he could get a regular starting place, bearing in mind the amount of other players front of him in most roles? Three separate roles: 1. Back at RB, if he really does link up with the PO, Arnie, etc, better then that is reason enough to put him ahead of Bardsley. 2. CDM- Nzonzi is a lock (at a time there was rumor he was leaving and picking Sidwell up for a free was a great idea by the club for coverage, but he looked dismal at passing the ball). I love Whelan, but if he and Cameron were in an honest battle for the position I think the more athletic, better passing, higher profile player would come out on top: Cameron. 3. CB- Two big ifs: A)Huth isn't fit B) Wilson keeps a striker in his pocket for the rest of the season. Watching Cameron for the US at CB he has good presence and good decision passing up the field. He was quick to clear and when in position marked well. He was caught out a few times, mainly because his penchant to press.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 28, 2014 15:05:19 GMT
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Post by jeycov on Aug 28, 2014 15:08:42 GMT
Very likely to be staying put - I'm happy with that. RB for Saturday more of a concern if Bardsley is injured
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Post by jimmygscfc on Aug 28, 2014 15:17:25 GMT
Wilko? At right back? Against Man City? With his reputation? Are they mad?
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Aug 28, 2014 15:18:55 GMT
If bardsley can't go Wilko will take care of business against man citeh.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 28, 2014 15:28:03 GMT
Wilko to score the winner.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Aug 28, 2014 15:30:28 GMT
Wilko to score the winner. That's all we need an OG.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Aug 30, 2014 7:12:41 GMT
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 30, 2014 7:52:46 GMT
The biggest shock in that article is Southampton are looking at Brek. They really are heading in a different direction these days.
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Post by Plave on Aug 30, 2014 7:54:02 GMT
Wilko? At right back? Against Man City? With his reputation?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 30, 2014 7:54:48 GMT
The biggest shock in that article is Southampton are looking at Brek. They really are heading in a different direction these days. Is there some kind of Beswicks connection with Southampton? Their name came up with Geoff as well and Rodriguez is one of their clients?
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Post by slpmarc on Aug 30, 2014 7:56:52 GMT
The biggest shock in that article is Southampton are looking at Brek. They really are heading in a different direction these days. Is there some kind of Beswicks connection with Southampton? Their name came up with Geoff as well and Rodriguez is one of their clients? The press like connections, but Soton actually have enquired about Shea and they do want Geoff
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 30, 2014 7:58:13 GMT
Is there some kind of Beswicks connection with Southampton? Their name came up with Geoff as well and Rodriguez is one of their clients? The press like connections, but Soton actually have enquired about Shea and they do want Geoff Cheers Marc, still seems a bit of a coincidence, especially given Brek's name popping up from the ether..,
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 30, 2014 7:59:42 GMT
Pretty much what's been suspected then - "if you're not going to play me in the middle, I'd really rather like to go" Interesting to see what happens in the next 48 hours.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 30, 2014 8:10:27 GMT
Pretty much what's been suspected then - "if you're not going to play me in the middle, I'd really rather like to go" Interesting to see what happens in the next 48 hours. It's like handing in a transfer request without actually doing it when you know that realistically you're not going to get selected in those positions.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Aug 30, 2014 8:17:09 GMT
Pretty much what's been suspected then - "if you're not going to play me in the middle, I'd really rather like to go" Interesting to see what happens in the next 48 hours. Personally I think he could do a good job there - but it would point to manager believing others are in front of him
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 30, 2014 10:19:52 GMT
I wouldn't mind seeing Geoff get ago in midfield - I'm pleased to see that like me, he never wants to see Geoff Cameron's name in the full back position on the team sheet ever again - but I don't know who he would dislodge. I didn't make the Portsmouth game, did he play as the deepest midfielder with Sidwell playing in N'Zonzi's position? I guess that would make him Whelan's main competition, but then I'm not sure that Hughes wouldn't want to try Sidwell there first if everyone else was fit.
I guess we'd only see him play there if injuries and suspensions kick in in a big way, which is a shame, because we've barely had a glimpse of him in what is supposed to be his best position.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 30, 2014 10:33:05 GMT
I wouldn't mind seeing Geoff get ago in midfield - I'm pleased to see that like me, he never wants to see Geoff Cameron's name in the full back position on the team sheet ever again - but I don't know who he would dislodge. I didn't make the Portsmouth game, did he play as the deepest midfielder with Sidwell playing in N'Zonzi's position? I guess that would make him Whelan's main competition, but then I'm not sure that Hughes wouldn't want to try Sidwell there first if everyone else was fit. I guess we'd only see him play there if injuries and suspensions kick in in a big way, which is a shame, because we've barely had a glimpse of him in what is supposed to be his best position. He did OK on Wednesday but for me as good as he is at winning possession he takes way too many chances in dangerous areas and at times makes lazy looking attempted passes. The pass he attempted that led to Huth receiving the shot to his face was a prime example. So to me he's in a situation where he doesn't want to play at right back particularly and he isn't good enough to play in midfield or at centre back. Interesting time for Geoff and to see how it all pans out.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 1, 2014 8:04:57 GMT
Sentinel still banging the Geoff drum then? STOKE were today standing by for a possible bid for Geoff Cameron as two Premier League clubs showed an interest in the American international heading towards tonight's 11pm transfer deadline.
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