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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 18:33:27 GMT
Ireland was excellent today - MOM and showed exactly why he is so good at playing in the hole. Agreed, did a hell of a job breaking on the right as well. No idea who gifted him with pace over the summer!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 18:34:55 GMT
People may think this result isn't too bad as it was against Schalke who finished 3rd but this was their second team with hardly any if any first team players in it. Yes we played some good stuff but the opponents were not as good as some people think. Neither does it really matter. We are a few weeks back in to training, trying new things, rotating players, getting fit.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 29, 2014 18:35:11 GMT
Are you serious? You cannot leave Ireland out he is fantastic in the hole and makes everything tick, he's the first player on the teams sheet for me. I hope Bojan isn't going to take his place there because Ireland is the most important player in Hughes 4231 formation So Ireland plays,who are you leaving out,Bojan ? Looks to me like Hughes is going to build his side around Bojan Its a tough one but personally i'd go for Bojan Diouf Ireland Odemwingie Arnie still blows hot and cold for me. Diouf and Odemwingie do a good job tracking back too.
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Post by werrington on Jul 29, 2014 18:35:43 GMT
Ireland was excellent today - MOM and showed exactly why he is so good at playing in the hole. I didn't watch Paul but was Adam on the pitch with Bojan and Diouf or Crouch ? Get him on the pitch with the former and he will flourish Horses for courses with him and Ireland and they are an ideal rotational pairing depending on the opposition
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Post by Sfance on Jul 29, 2014 18:38:16 GMT
Significantly better than against Munich the other day. Obviously getting their sea legs still. However, I don't see a role for Crouch next season and Adam is going to be very peripheral.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 29, 2014 18:38:17 GMT
Ireland was excellent today - MOM and showed exactly why he is so good at playing in the hole. I didn't watch Paul but was Adam on the pitch with Bojan and Diouf or Crouch ? Get him on the pitch with the former and he will flourish Horses for courses with him and Ireland and they are an ideal rotational pairing depending on the opposition Adam played behind Crouch and was the usual pedestrian rubbish but yeah i think Adam behind Diouf would work.
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Post by werrington on Jul 29, 2014 18:41:30 GMT
I didn't watch Paul but was Adam on the pitch with Bojan and Diouf or Crouch ? Get him on the pitch with the former and he will flourish Horses for courses with him and Ireland and they are an ideal rotational pairing depending on the opposition Adam played behind Crouch and was the usual pedestrian rubbish but yeah i think Adam behind Diouf would work. He would revel with pace in front and around him Hacket We saw that last season with Odimwingie
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 29, 2014 18:45:51 GMT
Ireland was excellent today - MOM and showed exactly why he is so good at playing in the hole. I didn't watch Paul but was Adam on the pitch with Bojan and Diouf or Crouch ? Get him on the pitch with the former and he will flourish Horses for courses with him and Ireland and they are an ideal rotational pairing depending on the opposition Can't see Adam working at all using the tactics used in the first half mate, not with Bojan dropping so deep. He could work in a 4-3-3 with Diouf leading the line though.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 29, 2014 18:46:57 GMT
The phrase 'false number nine' is something that should strike fear into the heart of every football fan in the land. Don't do it Hughes.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 29, 2014 18:47:29 GMT
So Ireland plays,who are you leaving out,Bojan ? Looks to me like Hughes is going to build his side around Bojan Its a tough one but personally i'd go for Bojan Diouf Ireland Odemwingie Arnie still blows hot and cold for me. Diouf and Odemwingie do a good job tracking back too. Dropping Whelan and now Arnie, you're on a wind up right?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 18:50:35 GMT
Its a tough one but personally i'd go for Bojan Diouf Ireland Odemwingie Arnie still blows hot and cold for me. Diouf and Odemwingie do a good job tracking back too. Dropping Whelan and now Arnie, you're on a wind up right? He must be!.
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Post by sportsman on Jul 29, 2014 18:52:01 GMT
Options eh? Just think how the top clubs go on.
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 29, 2014 18:53:25 GMT
I missed the game today but was interested to read all your comments; many thanks. Sounds like:
1) Much improved performance from Stoke, but some sloppy defending still.
2) Ireland, Bego, and Bojan have booked their 1st XI places.
3) Adam is letting himself down, but I think he is the sort of character who cannot get motivated by practice games. Before writing him off, we should remember he kept Stoke out of the relegation zone with his goals in the first half of last season.
It'll be interesting to see who MH picks to start the next match; will he give Ireland, Bego, and Bojan a game off to see how others shape up? Obviously Wingie and Cameron will get a start IMO. What tremendous choices MH has to make! I can't ever remember a time Stoke had so much talent on the books, including the early 70s.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 18:54:16 GMT
Looks like Muniesa' nailed the left back spot - good workout for the lads, still not picked our first eleven all together yet, narrowly beaten on the odd mistake
BOJAN -three players in front of him - backing off - 23 yards out - dips shoulder -- boooooosh !
GOALLLLLLLLL !!!!! 'get in you little beauty' !
(bloody marvellous)
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Post by mailman44 on Jul 29, 2014 18:57:03 GMT
I like the look of this Tex, this guy has a future and i can see him getting a bit of game time this year, if not in the PL it will be in the cups. Big powerful unit, not that slow, picks a pass out. Lets see how he is with his defending and positional sense but he could well be a bargain. If I was big Sam Scolari I'd be kicking my self for playing those two lumps David Luiz and Dante instead of Tex in the WC ...
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Post by sportsman on Jul 29, 2014 18:57:52 GMT
United have about 14 midfielders choose from and we're discussing the choice of two. You can't have too many choices and fighting for places.
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Post by mccfred on Jul 29, 2014 18:58:01 GMT
A beauty of strike from Bojan. Not a bad performance against a very good squad. The home kit really does look good on the boys!
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 29, 2014 18:58:30 GMT
The phrase 'false number nine' is something that should strike fear into the heart of every football fan in the land. Don't do it Hughes. Yep. Agree with this
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 29, 2014 19:02:25 GMT
Dropping Whelan and now Arnie, you're on a wind up right? Not at all but there isn't enough room for all of them so someone has to go. I just think Ireland and Odemwingie are nailed on so its either dropping Bojan and stick Diouf up top with Arnie on the left or drop Arnie and play Bojan up top with Diouf on the left. But whatever i think Bojan and Diouf will be far more important to us than Arnie. I think it's more likely Odem dropped than Arnie, to accommodate the new lads, Arnie along with Whelan were two of our most important players last season, there's no need to change that to shoe horn players in, actually thinking about it we should leave it as is and let the new lads force their way in when they get the chance.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 19:06:54 GMT
Dropping Whelan and now Arnie, you're on a wind up right? Not at all but there isn't enough room for all of them so someone has to go. I just think Ireland and Odemwingie are nailed on so its either dropping Bojan and stick Diouf up top with Arnie on the left or drop Arnie and play Bojan up top with Diouf on the left. But whatever i think Bojan and Diouf will be far more important to us than Arnie. Your argument loses all credence with Diouf on the left. Didn't you see him on the right wing today ? It didn't work.He's a centre forward man. You're going back to the dark days of Pulis,square pegs and all that. Plus,don't forget Hughes is still looking to bring another winger in. It's Bojan or Ireland,not both....unless you play 2 up top with Bojan off the main striker but that's old fashioned. Maybe that's why Ajax etc pushed Bojan out on the wing because they simply couldn't accomodate him in the middle.He's no target man is he. Like I said earlier Hughes has got his work cut out making this work and keeping all the players happy
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 19:08:15 GMT
The phrase 'false number nine' is something that should strike fear into the heart of every football fan in the land. Don't do it Hughes. Yep. Agree with this It's not a phrase I'd ever heard of before this thread. He made it up right
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 29, 2014 19:10:07 GMT
Not at all but there isn't enough room for all of them so someone has to go. I just think Ireland and Odemwingie are nailed on so its either dropping Bojan and stick Diouf up top with Arnie on the left or drop Arnie and play Bojan up top with Diouf on the left. But whatever i think Bojan and Diouf will be far more important to us than Arnie. I think it's more likely Odem dropped than Arnie, to accommodate the new lads, Arnie along with Whelan were two of our most important players last season, there's no need to change that to shoe horn players in, actually thinking about it we should leave it as is and let the new lads force their way in when they get the chance. Odemwingie changed our season when he joined with his pace, goalscoring ability and willingness to track back. Arnie isn't as quick, isn't anywhere near as good a goalscorer and doesn't like to track back as much as Odemwingie.
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 29, 2014 19:11:45 GMT
Thanks for the post. Apologies if already covered, but what were the last few seconds on Arni and MH about? MH seems upset about something?
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jul 29, 2014 19:12:00 GMT
I think it's more likely Odem dropped than Arnie, to accommodate the new lads, Arnie along with Whelan were two of our most important players last season, there's no need to change that to shoe horn players in, actually thinking about it we should leave it as is and let the new lads force their way in when they get the chance. Odemwingie changed our season when he joined with his pace, goalscoring ability and willingness to track back. Arnie isn't as quick, isn't anywhere near as good a goalscorer and doesn't like to track back as much as Odemwingie. Is this the same Arnautovic who routinely fights for the ball in our half and beat quite a few full-backs last season or am I thinking of a different Arnautovic?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 19:13:50 GMT
Odemwingie changed our season when he joined with his pace, goalscoring ability and willingness to track back. Arnie isn't as quick, isn't anywhere near as good a goalscorer and doesn't like to track back as much as Odemwingie. Is this the same Arnautovic who routinely fights for the ball in our half and beat quite a few full-backs last season or am I thinking of a different Arnautovic? I'm blaming too much sun mate.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 19:15:09 GMT
So Ireland plays,who are you leaving out,Bojan ? Looks to me like Hughes is going to build his side around Bojan Its a tough one but personally i'd go for Bojan Diouf Ireland Odemwingie Arnie still blows hot and cold for me. Diouf and Odemwingie do a good job tracking back too. Moronic
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 29, 2014 19:15:58 GMT
Odemwingie changed our season when he joined with his pace, goalscoring ability and willingness to track back. Arnie isn't as quick, isn't anywhere near as good a goalscorer and doesn't like to track back as much as Odemwingie. Is this the same Arnautovic who routinely fights for the ball in our half and beat quite a few full-backs last season or am I thinking of a different Arnautovic? Don't get me wrong I like Arnie but I just think we have better options now. Anyway lots of options is a good thing.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jul 29, 2014 19:21:21 GMT
The other revelation to me was Tex, excellent play, composed and took the goal chance well. Can pass too, think someone mentioned the new Kompany and not far off at a young age. Very impressed
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Post by redwhite on Jul 29, 2014 19:21:33 GMT
Drop Arnautovic? What a fucking shit idea.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 29, 2014 19:31:30 GMT
Ireland's assist for Bojan goal was superb. Great piece of skill and vision.
I think comments are harsh on Adam myself. He made some crucial contributions last season and the season before, he is a talented player, but doesn't work well with Crouch.
Bit worried about our defence. They could have scored 4/5 in the first half if it wasn't for Bego. Improved when TRex came on.
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