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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 20:34:23 GMT
I knew I was right. Thanks for the confirmation. I'm sorry mate, I thought you were joking. When you're ready to discuss it seriously, you know where to find me son.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 18, 2014 20:36:34 GMT
I knew I was right. Thanks for the confirmation. I'm sorry mate, I thought you were joking. When you're ready to discuss it seriously, you know where to find me son. I spent six months discussing Danny bloody Collins 'seriously' with you, I'm not being suckered into doing that again.
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Post by mrpickles on Jun 18, 2014 20:37:12 GMT
I knew I was right. Thanks for the confirmation. I'm sorry mate, I thought you were joking. When you're ready to discuss it seriously, you know where to find me son. Where do you and Danny live these days?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 20:39:12 GMT
First choice right back in a team that finished 9th in the premier league.
Man of the match on the world stage.
The absolute waster. I can't wait to get rid.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 21:04:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 21:16:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 21:17:15 GMT
Why not sign a Muniesa/Teixera style up and comer in that case, someone to act as understudy and get their chance here and there? Instead he's signed a player who was seeing plenty of first team football where he was and was offered a new contract there. Someone with plenty of experience of an age where they want to be playing as much as they can - their peak years. He'll be on decent money too, in an age where we're a lot more particular about who comes in and for how much. He's not coming here to play second fiddle. You may be right mate. I think Hughes will go into the Season with an open mind though. I think pre-season training and performances in friendlies will play a big part. I refuse to believe he has already made his mind up over who will play in that position. I rate Bardsley so I wouldn't be suprised if got the nod. I rate Geoff too though, so it's not a forgone conclusion for me. I definitely expect Les to make them play for the shirt, like he has done with everyone else so far. If Bardsley gets the nod at the start of the season, and keeps the shirt through to Jan, then I have no doubt that Cameron will look for a move (or at least consider his options, or seek reassurances). I just don't think it will be as straightforward as that though. If Bardsley doesn't start the season well and Geoff stays I'm sure he'll get his chance mate. But I think the plan is that it's basically his shirt to lose. And to me that suggests that Hughes isn't convinced by the current incumbent.
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Post by stokefaninde on Jun 18, 2014 21:50:56 GMT
No one likes to talk about it but we are destined to lose a few this window or in the next few. We have cover in the event Bego goes. Others hoping to push on their careers or getting feelers from big clubs include Shawcross, Nzonzi and eventually Arnautovic. Sidwell in for pending Nzonzi departure. Bardsley in to free up Geoff to compete for CB position and for sure when Ryan goes. I like Huth as much as anyone but am willing to bet they will move him on due to style of play. Wilko signing makes little sense however you want to spin it.. Style of play my arse. Defenders are there to defend and Huth is a bloody good defender. He is also more than capable of passing the ball 10 yards into his midfield colleagues or across the line to Ryan. The only thing that will scupper Huth is injury if this knee problems proves persistant or debillitating. He is fantastic and I hope I am wrong but he struggled with the change of style. Not certain to leave but not certain to stay either.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 22:14:33 GMT
Huth has not been properly fit since before the cup final. I really hope he gets his fitness and form back because Ryan and Huthy is still the best partnership we have.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 18, 2014 22:37:31 GMT
Style of play my arse. Defenders are there to defend and Huth is a bloody good defender. He is also more than capable of passing the ball 10 yards into his midfield colleagues or across the line to Ryan. The only thing that will scupper Huth is injury if this knee problems proves persistant or debillitating. He is fantastic and I hope I am wrong but he struggled with the change of style. Not certain to leave but not certain to stay either. He struggled with a knee injury (injection on the Tues before the Liverpool game) way more than he struggled with any change in playing style.
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Post by metalhead on Jun 18, 2014 23:27:20 GMT
Expect the same cliches from the haters: Those lists are shit, look at some of the others, Ghana were very poor, one game doesn't make a tournament Come on Geoff, make us, well, some of us, proud when you play Portugal.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 6:59:56 GMT
He had a very good game the other night and deserves a stack of credit for it. It doesn't prove anything about his suitability or performances at right back though any more than Huth's Germany caps made him a good right back as TP's acolytes were falling over themselves to tell us a few years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 7:27:42 GMT
Expect the same cliches from the haters: Those lists are shit, look at some of the others, Ghana were very poor, one game doesn't make a tournament Come on Geoff, make us, well, some of us, proud when you play Portugal. what haters? Have you read any abuse towards Cameron? I think every Stokie is proud of him and the others at the World Cup (except Palacious obviously). Seems you can only think a player is one of the world's best or a steaming pile of horse shit. I like Geoff but i don't think he should be starting next season and i believe Hughes thinks the same, but according to the Cameron rimmers i must hate the man and the whole of the USA.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 19, 2014 10:04:54 GMT
He had a very good game the other night and deserves a stack of credit for it. It doesn't prove anything about his suitability or performances at right back though any more than Huth's Germany caps made him a good right back as TP's acolytes were falling over themselves to tell us a few years ago. To be fair Rob there are plenty on this thread who haven't confined their criticism of Cameron to his performances at right back. Plenty have said he is a crap centre back and a crap midfielder even though most Stokies will have rarely seen him play in the only two positions he played regularly before we signed him. He has the potential to be a decent cb and possibly, an even better midfielder, in my opinion. Certainly he deserves a chance to shine in those positions BEFORE he is slagged off by some of the keyboard warriors on here. Anyway, I'm delighted that the stats bear our what I saw with my own eyes which was an excellent performance at centre back the other night.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 10:09:03 GMT
He had a very good game the other night and deserves a stack of credit for it. It doesn't prove anything about his suitability or performances at right back though any more than Huth's Germany caps made him a good right back as TP's acolytes were falling over themselves to tell us a few years ago. To be fair Rob there are plenty on this thread who haven't confined their criticism of Cameron to his performances at right back. Plenty have said he is a crap centre back and a crap midfielder even though most Stokies will have rarely seen him play in the only two positions he played regularly before we signed him. He has the potential to be a decent cb and possibly, an even better midfielder, in my opinion. Certainly he deserves a chance to shine in those positions BEFORE he is slagged off by some of the keyboard warriors on here. Anyway, I'm delighted that the stats bear our what I saw with my own eyes which was an excellent performance at centre back the other night. Spot on Forny. Mystical Descent described him as useless for nine tenths of the season! Unbelievable Jeff!
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 19, 2014 10:22:36 GMT
He had a very good game the other night and deserves a stack of credit for it. It doesn't prove anything about his suitability or performances at right back though any more than Huth's Germany caps made him a good right back as TP's acolytes were falling over themselves to tell us a few years ago. To be fair Rob there are plenty on this thread who haven't confined their criticism of Cameron to his performances at right back. Plenty have said he is a crap centre back and a crap midfielder even though most Stokies will have rarely seen him play in the only two positions he played regularly before we signed him. He has the potential to be a decent cb and possibly, an even better midfielder, in my opinion. Certainly he deserves a chance to shine in those positions BEFORE he is slagged off by some of the keyboard warriors on here. Anyway, I'm delighted that the stats bear our what I saw with my own eyes which was an excellent performance at centre back the other night. Who slagged him off as a centre back or a central midfielder? The only people who are doing any 'slagging off' are people who are sick of his Danny Collins style full back performances. Actually, he reminds me of Huth at right back, as he makes a lot of the positional mistakes that Huth used to make when played there, in particular the instinctive getting sucked into the middle and abandoning the far post. If you look back to the time when Huth was injured last season and when Wilson was having a dodgy spell at centre back in the previous season, I actually called for Cameron to be given a go in his natural position! When I say it's strange that he's Hughes fifth choice there and was Pulis' fourth choice I'm not being facetious; I really don't know why he hasn't even been given a chance there.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 19, 2014 10:38:25 GMT
To be fair Rob there are plenty on this thread who haven't confined their criticism of Cameron to his performances at right back. Plenty have said he is a crap centre back and a crap midfielder even though most Stokies will have rarely seen him play in the only two positions he played regularly before we signed him. He has the potential to be a decent cb and possibly, an even better midfielder, in my opinion. Certainly he deserves a chance to shine in those positions BEFORE he is slagged off by some of the keyboard warriors on here. Anyway, I'm delighted that the stats bear our what I saw with my own eyes which was an excellent performance at centre back the other night. Who slagged him off as a centre back or a central midfielder? The only people who are doing any 'slagging off' are people who are sick of his Danny Collins style full back performances. Actually, he reminds me of Huth at right back, as he makes a lot of the positional mistakes that Huth used to make when played there, in particular the instinctive getting sucked into the middle and abandoning the far post. If you look back to the time when Huth was injured last season and when Wilson was having a dodgy spell at centre back in the previous season, I actually called for Cameron to be given a go in his natural position! When I say it's strange that he's Hughes fifth choice there and was Pulis' fourth choice I'm not being facetious; I really don't know why he hasn't even been given a chance there. I'm not going to list them - they know who they are! Methinks you are taking this a tad personally, MD
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