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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 8, 2014 22:53:43 GMT
Stokes vision is well & truly clear, the purse has been thrown away. Fair Play if we pull of a consistent top 10 team on Bosmans, it's a shame TP wasted near £100 million it would of been interesting to see what Hughes could do with that sort of money now. Wasted it by keeping us in the league you mean.
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Post by arnieforpresident on Jun 8, 2014 22:57:06 GMT
I'd like us to take Darren Bent as 1 of 2 striking signings if even only on loan with a fixed fee in place, given service from arnoutovic, assaidi, Adam & Ireland, he'd score a hat full imo.
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Post by arnieforpresident on Jun 8, 2014 22:58:35 GMT
Stokes vision is well & truly clear, the purse has been thrown away. Fair Play if we pull of a consistent top 10 team on Bosmans, it's a shame TP wasted near £100 million it would of been interesting to see what Hughes could do with that sort of money now. Wasted it by keeping us in the league you mean. Yes & swansea stayed in the prem spending about a quid, whats your point?
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jun 8, 2014 22:59:03 GMT
All this nonsense about him being Palacios's replacement , why would he come to us, rejecting other offers to become the player who never plays. I also thought that the Bardsley signing would free up Cameron so he surely could play that crucial palacios role. It all points to Nzonzi being sold, but any money he goes for should go straight back into the club on a similar typed player. replacing quality with freebies can only be successful for so long I'm sure.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jun 8, 2014 23:00:25 GMT
I'd like us to take Darren Bent as 1 of 2 striking signings if even only on loan with a fixed fee in place, given service from arnoutovic, assaidi, Adam & Ireland, he'd score a hat full imo. Jesus wept. He's 5 stone overweight and shite. Did you not hear the Fulham fans booing him.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2014 23:01:22 GMT
All this nonsense about him being Palacios's replacement , why would he come to us, rejecting other offers to become the player who never plays. I also thought that the Bardsley signing would free up Cameron so he surely could play that crucial palacios role. It all points to Nzonzi being sold, but any money he goes for should go straight back into the club on a similar typed player. replacing quality with freebies can only be successful for so long I'm sure. When you put it like that...
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Post by arnieforpresident on Jun 8, 2014 23:02:31 GMT
I'd like us to take Darren Bent as 1 of 2 striking signings if even only on loan with a fixed fee in place, given service from arnoutovic, assaidi, Adam & Ireland, he'd score a hat full imo. Jesus wept. He's 5 stone overweight and shite. Did you not hear the Fulham fans booing him. Diamond in the rough pal playing for a shit team. Natural & one off the all time leading goalscorers, far from shit.
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Post by seanrjstokie on Jun 8, 2014 23:05:12 GMT
I'd like us to take Darren Bent as 1 of 2 striking signings if even only on loan with a fixed fee in place, given service from arnoutovic, assaidi, Adam & Ireland, he'd score a hat full imo. . Surely your smashed???? One of the biggest cocks in football. All he cares about is how fat is wallet is.
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Post by arnieforpresident on Jun 8, 2014 23:06:56 GMT
I'd like us to take Darren Bent as 1 of 2 striking signings if even only on loan with a fixed fee in place, given service from arnoutovic, assaidi, Adam & Ireland, he'd score a hat full imo. . Surely your smashed???? One of the biggest cocks in football. All he cares about is how fat is wallet is. On a loan deal you still wouldn't take him? I wish I was as smashed as you
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Post by baystokie on Jun 8, 2014 23:12:58 GMT
All this nonsense about him being Palacios's replacement , why would he come to us, rejecting other offers to become the player who never plays. I also thought that the Bardsley signing would free up Cameron so he surely could play that crucial palacios role. It all points to Nzonzi being sold, but any money he goes for should go straight back into the club on a similar typed player. replacing quality with freebies can only be successful for so long I'm sure. Not sure I agree with you if what you're saying is that a freebie by definition cannot be quality. Many freebies these days are not necessarily players who have been discarded but are players who have come to the end of contracts and are not taking up their club's new offer. Their quality is not related to their being available.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 8, 2014 23:15:03 GMT
Wasted it by keeping us in the league you mean. Yes & swansea stayed in the prem spending about a quid, whats your point? We didn't have the players Swasea did, clearly my point is that he didn't fucking waste it.
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Post by baystokie on Jun 8, 2014 23:15:16 GMT
Would rather keep Nzonzi, would rather have Whelan as the holding midfielder. Would rather Adam or Ireland in the attacking role. Not a bad player, but not an improvement at all. This. Is a strange signing. Don't fully understand the rationale behind it. It's not important that you understand the rationale, only that Mark Hughes understands it
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jun 8, 2014 23:15:32 GMT
All this nonsense about him being Palacios's replacement , why would he come to us, rejecting other offers to become the player who never plays. I also thought that the Bardsley signing would free up Cameron so he surely could play that crucial palacios role. It all points to Nzonzi being sold, but any money he goes for should go straight back into the club on a similar typed player. replacing quality with freebies can only be successful for so long I'm sure. Not sure I agree with you if what you're saying is that a freebie by definition cannot be quality. Many freebies these days are not necessarily players who have been discarded but are players who have come to the end of contracts and are not taking up their club's new offer. Their quality is not related to their being available. Nzonzi is a classy player who is yet to reach his peak. Sidwell is a 31 year old player with maybe two seasons left in him and no resale value. He's not a bad player at all, but improving on 9th place isn't going to happen by spending nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2014 23:16:48 GMT
Jesus wept. He's 5 stone overweight and shite. Did you not hear the Fulham fans booing him. Diamond in the rough pal playing for a shit team. Natural & one off the all time leading goalscorers, far from shit. Past it and disinterested though Arn. Not a lone striker either. Just a poacher and a lazy one at that these days.
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Post by arnieforpresident on Jun 8, 2014 23:20:01 GMT
Yes & swansea stayed in the prem spending about a quid, whats your point? We didn't have the players Swasea did, And whoose fault would that be exactly? As I remember it when we were a Championship team Pulis was given one of the top budgets to get promotion so why didn't we have the players Swansea had? Afterall Pulis had been here for 4 years to build.
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 8, 2014 23:24:57 GMT
Sidwell seems a good signing to me.
N'Zonzi is making waves and wants out. MH having an alternative allows him to tell N'Zonzi he can go if the offer is right. If there isn't a good enough offer N'Zonzi knows he has competition for his place. It was noticeable how he bucked his ideas up when he did not get straight back into the side after suspension.
Last season Palacios had to play at times, we don't want that again. Incidentally I think Palacios improved his saleability on Saturday.
We also need plenty of good options for cup games, cover for injury/suspension(Adam?), rest/rotate players, etc.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 8, 2014 23:25:26 GMT
We didn't have the players Swasea did, And whoose fault would that be exactly? As I remember it when we were a Championship team Pulis was given one of the top budgets to get promotion so why didn't we have the players Swansea had? Afterall Pulis had been here for 4 years to build. I'm already bored of you and this isn't the thread for discussing the pros and cons of the ex manager, especially as you seem to want to move the goal posts .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2014 23:25:56 GMT
I don't know why people continue to go on about how much Pulis spent in his time at the helm or how his spending will affect us in the future because quite simply it won't !
It's history and our new policy of signing up bosman players is the way to go. We can sign high calibre players on bigger wages than we have done in the past simply by not having to fork out a fee. This new strategy is less to do about a tightening of the purse strings as a result of Pulis's wasteful spending but more about the way forward for a club of our size . Some fans just don't seem to be able to get it. It represents a fantastic opportunity to push on to heights we may never have been able to dream about in the past , and our only restriction in this policy is perhaps finding the right quality or type of player that falls under the Bosman ruling. I just don't see why it all seems so difficult to understand. Obviously we will have to fork out the odd fee here and there , but certainly not the massive fees on ageing players like Peter Crouch etc. those days are well and truly in the past .!
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Post by arnieforpresident on Jun 8, 2014 23:31:06 GMT
Diamond in the rough pal playing for a shit team. Natural & one off the all time leading goalscorers, far from shit. Past it and disinterested though Arn. Not a lone striker either. Just a poacher and a lazy one at that these days. I see where you are coming from but I can't help but think with the players I mentioned before supplying him he would start scoring goals again, we get players forward these days so Bent could still play off players when this happens. I ty mean it isn't as if Crouch is Mr mobilitty is it or a player you would class as a lone forward
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Post by arnieforpresident on Jun 8, 2014 23:31:17 GMT
Diamond in the rough pal playing for a shit team. Natural & one off the all time leading goalscorers, far from shit. Past it and disinterested though Arn. Not a lone striker either. Just a poacher and a lazy one at that these days. I see where you are coming from but I can't help but think with the players I mentioned before supplying him he would start scoring goals again, we get players forward these days so Bent could still play off players when this happens. I ty mean it isn't as if Crouch is Mr mobilitty is it or a player you would class as a lone forward
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Post by seanrjstokie on Jun 8, 2014 23:32:22 GMT
. Surely your smashed???? One of the biggest cocks in football. All he cares about is how fat is wallet is. On a loan deal you still wouldn't take him? I wish I was as smashed as you when a teams fans have watched him all season long a team that was relegated may I add and a team clearly lacking quality are booing him I would personally trust there judgement over yours. I aren't saying he isn't a good player cause a few seasons ago he'd bag you 15 plus a season easy. I'm just saying he doesn't even look interested anymore and wouldn't fit in with the attitude of the team. He also chose Sunderland over us and that clearly labels a cunt.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2014 23:34:04 GMT
Past it and disinterested though Arn. Not a lone striker either. Just a poacher and a lazy one at that these days. I see where you are coming from but I can't help but think with the players I mentioned before supplying him he would start scoring goals again, we get players forward these days so Bent could still play off players when this happens. I ty mean it isn't as if Crouch is Mr mobilitty is it or a player you would class as a lone forward He's not an ideal lone forward but he works hard and brings others into the game, two things Bent doesn't do.
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Post by discokaraoke on Jun 9, 2014 0:08:42 GMT
Possibly but considering we're currently as tight as a duck's arse & he'll be talking to others as well I'm not very confident at all at present. We need goals and a striker more suited to Hughes' position & considering these pair are dirt cheap by Premier League transfer standards we are taking the piss in penny pinching for something we desperatley need, imo. Bardsley scores goals..Free if in contract would cost a few mill Diouf scores goals...we were prepared to pay 6 mill..free Sidwell scores goals.. free Excellent business by the club. We could buy worstwank one goal striker from Norwich for 12 mill?
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Post by discokaraoke on Jun 9, 2014 0:15:25 GMT
I'd like us to take Darren Bent as 1 of 2 striking signings if even only on loan with a fixed fee in place, given service from arnoutovic, assaidi, Adam & Ireland, he'd score a hat full imo. Darren fucking Bent? You really know your stuff don't ya? Not.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2014 0:38:52 GMT
I remember Berbatov pulling a ball out of the sky and rolling it along the turf to Sidwell for a shot from the edge of the box. The ball ran as true as a snooker ball on green beige. Perfectly weighted, the ball arrived just right for Sidwell's shot, which he wellied 60 degrees into the night sky. Berba's head sank. The only divot was Sidwell.
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Post by houstonsteve on Jun 9, 2014 2:13:49 GMT
Good player
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Post by stokemanusa on Jun 9, 2014 3:38:04 GMT
I like sidwell as a person and player, good solid pro. Just worried of the behind the scenes moving, is this the end of nzonzi? I could see it being a stop gap but mind you nzonzi is brilliant on the ball he just needs a kick in the ass.
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Post by MadMarko10 on Jun 9, 2014 4:34:29 GMT
Darren "fucking" Bent?
Have I woken up in 2009? Jesus fucking wept..
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Post by minnierover on Jun 9, 2014 4:56:41 GMT
I don't know why people continue to go on about how much Pulis spent in his time at the helm or how his spending will affect us in the future because quite simply it won't . It will, it is ....fact. One of the major reasons Coates pulled the trigger was because of the wasted millions Pulis spent on inflated fees and high wages. We are heavily in debt to Coates because of it. And what it means is our policy for the time being has to be cheaper players with small fees. So it has affected us, it's one of Tones legacies I'm afraid. Sidwell is not the worst signing but we could do worse. Age isn't on his side though and he played a big part in a relegated team. On top of that he says he desperately wanted to stay in London so I question if his heart will be in it.
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Post by scfc75 on Jun 9, 2014 5:24:52 GMT
Not sure I agree with you if what you're saying is that a freebie by definition cannot be quality. Many freebies these days are not necessarily players who have been discarded but are players who have come to the end of contracts and are not taking up their club's new offer. Their quality is not related to their being available. Nzonzi is a classy player who is yet to reach his peak. Sidwell is a 31 year old player with maybe two seasons left in him and no resale value. He's not a bad player at all, but improving on 9th place isn't going to happen by spending nothing. Just because we don't replace a sold player by using the money we received for his exact position doesn't mean we can't improve. What if we sell Nzonzi, replace him with a Bosman then use some or all of the cash on buying a player for a different position? Nzonzi out, and Sidwell + a striker in for me would be great business, for example.
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