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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2014 20:30:32 GMT
He is a better player than Whelan and Adam so he could improve the starting eleven. That's a matter of opinion and it's not mine.I don't think he's any better than Whelan and he's definitely not as good as Adam You will be eating those words next season if he signs.
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Post by Pedropotter on Jun 8, 2014 20:32:38 GMT
But the starting team does not improve at all. He is a better player than Whelan and Adam so he could improve the starting eleven. Better than Whelan and Adam? What makes you say that?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2014 20:33:05 GMT
But the starting team does not improve at all. Who are we going to sign in the midfield that's of a good age and affordable that will? That's where the scouting team earn their money. The only way we will improve is if we get better players in the first 11 and let the players they replace sit on the bench.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2014 20:33:34 GMT
He is a better player than Whelan and Adam so he could improve the starting eleven. Better than Whelan and Adam? What makes you say that? The fact that I think he is the better player of the three perhaps?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2014 20:35:21 GMT
He's not the same type of player as either I didn't think? The one he's most similar to is Nzonzi, a box to box type?
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Post by Pedropotter on Jun 8, 2014 20:36:29 GMT
Better than Whelan and Adam? What makes you say that? The fact that I think he is the better player of the three perhaps? Thats obvious , What makes you say that? Simple question.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2014 20:41:09 GMT
He's not the same type of player as either I didn't think? The one he's most similar to is Nzonzi, a box to box type? You're probably right Rob to be honest. I was just trying to highlight that I think he would definitely improve us if he did sign.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 8, 2014 20:42:05 GMT
He's not the same type of player as either I didn't think? The one he's most similar to is Nzonzi, a box to box type? Definitely. Lots of people seem to think he'd replace Whelan, now that really would worry me!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 8, 2014 20:43:59 GMT
Unlike Whelan he scores a decent number of goals. Unlike Adam he can tackle. He is better then each of them in some respects. Personally, I think he's actually best in NZonzi's position - box to box - perhaps less accurate in his passing but a lot more goal threat.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2014 20:49:36 GMT
He's not the same type of player as either I didn't think? The one he's most similar to is Nzonzi, a box to box type? You're probably right Rob to be honest. I was just trying to highlight that I think he would definitely improve us if he did sign. I'd take him over Palacios, Wilson and Geoff as cover all day long Sid. Good competition. Don't know who we'd play if anything happened to Glenn mind.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2014 20:51:57 GMT
The fact that I think he is the better player of the three perhaps? Thats obvious , What makes you say that? Simple question. Like Rob has pointed out he is a different type of midfielder than Whelan and Adam so it probably wasn't the best comparison to be honest. Having said that he is of a higher quality than both of them regardless of whether they perform the same job on a football pitch. He is a goalscoring midfielder who has a good engine and can do pretty much everything that your all round midfield player is supposed to do. So in my opinion he is the more rounded player of the three and would definitely improve us. Makes the link with Barry seem strange though if we are to sign Sidwell though.
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Post by werrington on Jun 8, 2014 20:52:18 GMT
Unlike Whelan he scores a decent number of goals. Unlike Adam he can tackle. He is better then each of them in some respects. Personally, I think he's actually best in NZonzi's position - box to box - perhaps less accurate in his passing but a lot more goal threat. Why do any of them have to be better or worse than the others If Nzonzi leaves we will have Adam Whelan Ireland and Sidwell who all offer something different to each other If Nzonzi stays that's even better
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 8, 2014 20:54:26 GMT
Decent signing.
But assuming he does sign, you've got to think we've beaten off some decent lower half Premier League competition (particularly from London where it would have been much easier for him to stay?), so would he have been given a steer that he's seen as very much starting material?
I know it's a squad game - but I wouldn't have him in our best 3 as it stands. And it'd be Zonz's spot he was largely competing for.
And as we've seen with the Ireland/Adam battle, a favoured man emerges and gets the bulk of games, injuries apart.
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Post by 2004 on Jun 8, 2014 20:58:22 GMT
I thought he was much older than he actually is. Sidwell would be a good, solid addition to the squad.
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Post by slpmarc on Jun 8, 2014 21:00:36 GMT
I would want Sidwell, but not to replace Whelan, Whelan's game is solid and allowed our more creative players the chance to move forward.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jun 8, 2014 21:02:31 GMT
I was dead set against Odemwingie, too old, turned us down before etc. This time, if Sidwell signs, I think I'll wait until he's played a few games and then judge him. May just save me another apology in the future.
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Post by burge2u on Jun 8, 2014 21:03:17 GMT
I would want Sidwell, but not to replace Whelan, Whelan's game is solid and allowed our more creative players the chance to move forward. Exactly right
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 8, 2014 21:05:48 GMT
He's not really the type who'd do the Whelan job though, is he?
He's never really struck me as that type.
Certainly in the discussions the Fulham fans had about him last season, the words 'box to box' keep coming up - which would seem to make him a contender for the Nzonzi slot rather than either of the other 2.
But he's certainly not in his class.
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Post by Pedropotter on Jun 8, 2014 21:06:11 GMT
Thats obvious :-S, What makes you say that? Simple question. Like Rob has pointed out he is a different type of midfielder than Whelan and Adam so it probably wasn't the best comparison to be honest. Having said that he is of a higher quality than both of them regardless of whether they perform the same job on a football pitch. He is a goalscoring midfielder who has a good engine and can do pretty much everything that your all round midfield player is supposed to do. So in my opinion he is the more rounded player of the three and would definitely improve us. Makes the link with Barry seem strange though if we are to sign Sidwell though. Maybe it will be Sidwell or Barry - Either way I think nzonzi could be off.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 8, 2014 21:09:55 GMT
I was dead set against Odemwingie, too old, turned us down before etc. This time, if Sidwell signs, I think I'll wait until he's played a few games and then judge him. May just save me another apology in the future. For me it entirely depends on if he's Fonz's replacement or not. If the Fonz stays and we sign Sidwell. Ace. If the Fonz leaves and we sign a good yound midfielder with the money and Sidwell. Ace. If the Fonz leaves and Sidwell is the replacement. Not so ace, penny pinching, downgrade. One to judge in the future. For now I'll stick with decent signing.
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Post by werrington on Jun 8, 2014 21:10:57 GMT
I would want Sidwell, but not to replace Whelan, Whelan's game is solid and allowed our more creative players the chance to move forward. Sidwell must be the player coming tomorrow mate and not the Spanish winger you were hinting at Or perhaps they are both coming and the plot thickens ?
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Post by slpmarc on Jun 8, 2014 21:12:38 GMT
I would want Sidwell, but not to replace Whelan, Whelan's game is solid and allowed our more creative players the chance to move forward. Sidwell must be the player coming tomorrow mate and not the Spanish winger you were hinting at Or perhaps they are both coming and the plot thickens ? Let's hope it's both, we defo knew someone was, we had other reports it is Capel, let's have those fingers crossed
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 8, 2014 21:16:00 GMT
I hope it's Capel too. Would be a cracking signing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2014 21:19:33 GMT
Like Rob has pointed out he is a different type of midfielder than Whelan and Adam so it probably wasn't the best comparison to be honest. Having said that he is of a higher quality than both of them regardless of whether they perform the same job on a football pitch. He is a goalscoring midfielder who has a good engine and can do pretty much everything that your all round midfield player is supposed to do. So in my opinion he is the more rounded player of the three and would definitely improve us. Makes the link with Barry seem strange though if we are to sign Sidwell though. Maybe it will be Sidwell or Barry - Either way I think nzonzi could be off. I hope you're wrong about Nzonzi going but these rumours about Barry and Sidwell certainly make you wonder.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 8, 2014 21:19:38 GMT
Unlike Whelan he scores a decent number of goals. Unlike Adam he can tackle. He is better then each of them in some respects. Personally, I think he's actually best in NZonzi's position - box to box - perhaps less accurate in his passing but a lot more goal threat. And unlike Whelan he's not a DM which is the reason he scores goals, so that's a stupid comparison to make. Anyway as back up I'm not complaining, be worried if he's coming in as a starter as he isnt anywhere near as good as N'Zonzi imo.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 8, 2014 21:20:17 GMT
I would want Sidwell, but not to replace Whelan, Whelan's game is solid and allowed our more creative players the chance to move forward. Sidwell must be the player coming tomorrow mate and not the Spanish winger you were hinting at Or perhaps they are both coming and the plot thickens ? Or perhaps he knows bugger all.
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Post by discokaraoke on Jun 8, 2014 21:20:57 GMT
If this medical information is correct, then go to sky bet and lump on at 5/6.
With those odds, i just can not take the medical info serious.
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Post by lordb on Jun 8, 2014 21:21:04 GMT
Busy week?
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jun 8, 2014 21:22:45 GMT
I was dead set against Odemwingie, too old, turned us down before etc. This time, if Sidwell signs, I think I'll wait until he's played a few games and then judge him. May just save me another apology in the future. :| For me it entirely depends on if he's Fonz's replacement or not. If the Fonz stays and we sign Sidwell. Ace. If the Fonz leaves and we sign a good yound midfielder with the money and Sidwell. Ace. If the Fonz leaves and Sidwell is the replace. No so ace, penny pinching, downgrade. One to judge in the future. For now I'll stick with decent signing. Agreed. We don't HAVE to sell Fonzi but we all know the issues of holding on to an unhappy player and this would be a step backwards in ability/potential. But if a mardy sod is going anyway he could provide a decent stop gap for a season in an arm up our backs kind of way. Hopefully he's a Palacios replacement and Fonzi stays (and bucks his ideas up) or we have another lined up to replace him. As competition/cover for Whelan, why not?
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Post by lordb on Jun 8, 2014 21:24:00 GMT
If he is signing I wonder what's swung it our way? £££££? The great football v Fulham?
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