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Post by fentonstokie1 on Apr 25, 2014 21:38:56 GMT
Spot on mate our ground is an absolute embarrassment it's design or lack of ruins a good portion of games every season with the swirling wind creating an absolute farce but apparently the ridiculous playing conditions give us an advantage, what bollocks!! Never mind whether we would fill the scoreboard corner, the Britannia is not fit for purpose what about the fans/customer's comfort, Stoke fans have been treated like second class citizens for too long what other kind of business would dare to treat it's customer's with such utter contempt expecting them to accept an inferior product due to the defective nature of their premises. Loving your work.. For my hard earned cash like most fans I expect to enjoy the match day experience seeing a game of football played to a decent standard in relative comfort which for a good portion of the season is not possible due to the poor design of our third tier standard stadium and a club management who clearly have no interest in looking after their existing customers never mind increasing their numbers. Filling in the scoreboard corner would vastly improve the look of the ground, keep out some of the weather which ruins so many games and provide extra seats to help grow our fanbase for very little outlay.
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Post by prettything on Apr 25, 2014 21:46:53 GMT
'No interest in looking after their existing customers'
Freezing the season ticket prices.
Free away travel for the fans.
Never mind the 'look' ,its not about that .
If we can fill the seats , then trust me, they will do it.
Unfortunatley, this season they couldn't even achieve that,
Why should they expand , when there isn't the demand?
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Post by block30row19 on Apr 25, 2014 21:48:05 GMT
For my hard earned cash like most fans I expect to enjoy the match day experience seeing a game of football played to a decent standard in relative comfort which for a good portion of the season is not possible due to the poor design of our third tier standard stadium and a club management who clearly have no interest in looking after their existing customers never mind increasing their numbers. Filling in the scoreboard corner would vastly improve the look of the ground, keep out some of the weather which ruins so many games and provide extra seats to help grow our fanbase for very little outlay. Talk about fucking ungrateful. You couldn't make this shit up !
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Post by fentonstokie1 on Apr 25, 2014 22:14:02 GMT
For my hard earned cash like most fans I expect to enjoy the match day experience seeing a game of football played to a decent standard in relative comfort which for a good portion of the season is not possible due to the poor design of our third tier standard stadium and a club management who clearly have no interest in looking after their existing customers never mind increasing their numbers. Filling in the scoreboard corner would vastly improve the look of the ground, keep out some of the weather which ruins so many games and provide extra seats to help grow our fanbase for very little outlay. Talk about fucking ungrateful. You couldn't make this shit up ! Ungrateful my arse, I have supported this club since 1969 through thick and thin and although the club has made great strides since gaining promotion the stadium and the quality of it's facilities are still in the dark ages, we are expected to put up with a sub standard stadium because we are fans and it's our club for life, mere customers would not put up with it.
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Post by prettything on Apr 25, 2014 22:27:17 GMT
Talk about fucking ungrateful. You couldn't make this shit up ! Ungrateful my arse, I have supported this club since 1969 through thick and thin and although the club has made great strides since gaining promotion the stadium and the quality of it's facilities are still in the dark ages, we are expected to put up with a sub standard stadium because we are fans and it's our club for life, mere customers would not put up with it. Please expand ? Sub standard?
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Post by desman2 on Apr 25, 2014 23:17:50 GMT
Looking at the stadium from above and seing it swing round from the boothen and come to a stop, followed by a gap does make it look rather stupid.
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Post by prettything on Apr 26, 2014 0:15:29 GMT
Looking at the stadium from above and seing it swing round from the boothen and come to a stop, followed by a gap does make it look rather stupid. Even more stupid would to have a stadium that was only two thirds full. 8 pages of this nonsense ! Really don't get what people can't grasp. It would be lovely for the corners to be filled in. Great! We get could get a spirit level, measure the angles, and we would all be very pleased with ourselves . Until we can fill the bloody thing, it's not going to happen!
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Post by prettything on Apr 26, 2014 0:16:08 GMT
Nine!
My apologies.
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Post by block30row19 on Apr 26, 2014 0:25:44 GMT
Talk about fucking ungrateful. You couldn't make this shit up ! Ungrateful my arse, I have supported this club since 1969 through thick and thin and although the club has made great strides since gaining promotion the stadium and the quality of it's facilities are still in the dark ages, we are expected to put up with a sub standard stadium because we are fans and it's our club for life, mere customers would not put up with it. Yep. Think your talking out of your arse. I also have supported Stoke for 44 years. I sit on the half way line. Great view. Comfortable. I watch a mid table team play premier league football in one of the best leagues in the world. In an ok stadium and I pay £21 per game. Not 5star I agree. But you don't expect to go to a 5 star hotel and pay 2 star prices. We are what we are.
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Post by 1raytuper on Apr 26, 2014 0:26:15 GMT
Looking at the stadium from above and seing it swing round from the boothen and come to a stop, followed by a gap does make it look rather stupid. Even more stupid would to have a stadium that was only two thirds full. 8 pages of this nonsense ! Really don't get what people can't grasp. It would be lovely for the corners to be filled in. Great! We get could get a spirit level, measure the angles, and we would all be very pleased with ourselves . Until we can fill the bloody thing, it's not going to happen! i would rather have an open corner that lets in the elements (which visiting teams hate) than a loada empty seats (which the away fans would like) "your grounds too big for you "
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Post by Eggybread on Apr 26, 2014 1:31:48 GMT
Can someone answer the question who has experience in this matter.How much would it cost approx to fill the scoreboard corner in?
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Post by 36dd on Apr 26, 2014 5:41:27 GMT
I've just googled previous articles, and it was quoted around £3-4 million but that was a couple of years ago, I'd say as a guess £5-6 million ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 8:25:14 GMT
Like Ive said earlier - ground size IS becoming a limit as to who comes to watch us, that much is obvious, also, In terms of whats going on in and around us 'ground wise' in our division, it is literally 'small potatoes',
--- in terms of a decision right now, its a no decision at all!
its a 'low risk' 'small scale' ground modification
- I work in construction sometimes - design and planning permits done - footings in (I believe) cost to go, I reckon would be something in the order of £6-8 million, top end.
But my summary:-
IF, it takes the club this long to make such a simple investment decision, given all its done in the last few years overall given, we've already done the leg work on this and ESPECIALLY, given the new levels of income we get just by staying where we are,
You really begin to wonder whether this is the very best it will ever be - Both on and off the pitch ?
and that actually frightens me
If nothing else - this stalling on such a 'no brainer' defintely sends the wrong message to anyone with half a brain in the related business community (its not a sport anymore) - including larger competitors waiting to take our place who, will surely feel more deserving of our status.
Something we do not need to encourage by failing to act in this regard.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 9:05:39 GMT
Tell you what also needs much improvement. The escape route from the ground after the game. It's nothing short of a disgrace!
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Post by block30row19 on Apr 26, 2014 22:48:31 GMT
Totally agree the ground would look better with scoreboard corner filled in. But disappointingly there was a lot of empty seats today.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 22:59:34 GMT
Totally agree the ground would look better with scoreboard corner filled in. But disappointingly there was a lot of empty seats today. Hopefully the increased ST sales will take care of that next season...
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Apr 26, 2014 23:08:18 GMT
Totally agree the ground would look better with scoreboard corner filled in. But disappointingly there was a lot of empty seats today. High ticket prices again. Its no coincidence that we sell out against LESS attractive opposition. Interestingly the tottenham game is neither cheap nor very attractive. A bit of creative marketing and we would sell out every week, but they can't really be arsed by the looks of it.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 26, 2014 23:11:34 GMT
Totally agree the ground would look better with scoreboard corner filled in. But disappointingly there was a lot of empty seats today. Hopefully the increased ST sales will take care of that next season... What category of game was it today? Top or middle? Was disappointing to see 1000+ empty seats - but hopefully the return to a solid base of 21-22000 ST holders will ensure no repeats next season. Don't suppose it's realistic to expect the SOT public to pay (for the area) obscene matchday prices for the privilege of watching a middling Tottenham, who don't quite have the pull to drag the floaters in. Still think the matchday prices are a problem, despite the excellent ST prices.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 23:21:45 GMT
I really don't see the issue with having a £20-£25 flat price regardless of oppo, for non-ST holders. Everyone knows where they stand, and it's more affordable. Anything left by 2.00pm on the day, they put on a cash turnstile per stand.
Ultimately, the fans will decide what 'category' they think a game is in, and vote with their feet.
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Post by smiler_andy on Apr 26, 2014 23:23:59 GMT
Totally agree the ground would look better with scoreboard corner filled in. But disappointingly there was a lot of empty seats today. Just wondering if the game was rated A or A* if it was the later £40 for a ticket for Boothen End in my opinion is To high especially for some of the seats available. I have a season ticket so I am fortunate, but I think the high prices will not encourage casual or those coming for first time. Two adults and two kids will at A* prices cost you at least £120 that is if you can get 4 seats together.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 23:33:45 GMT
Anyone paying for match tickets, and bringing kids or other family members which means that the outlay is £120, needs their head looking at.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 11:47:12 GMT
Any sign of this 'small modification' YET ? given - £75 MILLION yes --
£75 MILLION smackeroos wasnt it - coming in from SKY ?
not forgetting the other items of 'pocket change' we get
and yet, we are still not doing it ? ???????
Surely the business case challenge needs to be:-
A) 'How do we get Stoke City to become a club with a ground of 30,000 ?
B) THAT'S REGULARLY FULL
C) That, is a world wide brand (WE GOT THAT NOW FOR CHRISSAKE!)
D) Home to a team challenging for the top six EPL places'?
ARE THOSE NOT THE CHALLENGE(S) WE SHOULD BE MAKING AS A FOOTBALL CLUB CLUB RIGHT NOW ???
Is this not what the clubs own fans should be demanding ?
For so so many years I have seen stoke 'bottle it' on the key decisions - key investments - selling star players - not going that extra step - always choosing to play it safe - not over extend -blah blah blah - we've been close too - but always missed out on the big prizes due to cutting corners - playing safe
and when we've done something remarkable like move to a new ground
We have 'cut corners' AGAIN ------ LITERALLY!
But surely, the time is now ?
Or - is this as good as it gets ?
This is not even a big call if truth be told, - it is bloody obvious !
are we always destined to be -- a club with a big heart but limited aspiration ?
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Post by Pugsley on May 26, 2014 12:03:48 GMT
Filling in the corner and selling the seats will take more than money (which isn't an issue). It will take people down at Stoke to get off their lazy arses and earning their money. I question what on earth these free loaders offer the club for the money they are being paid.
Are we saying we can't sell an extra 3000 seats? Are we saying we haven't got the creativity within the club to get them sold?
it's pathetic that it hasn't been done and tells you all you need to know about the people running the club and the city of Stoke-on-Trent as a whole.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 12:04:38 GMT
Amen brother
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Post by keasie1863 on May 26, 2014 12:08:47 GMT
Any sign of this 'small modification' YET ? given - £75 MILLION yes -- £75 MILLION smackeroos wasnt it - coming in from SKY ? not forgetting the other items of 'pocket change' we get and yet, we are still not doing it ? ??????? Surely the business case challenge needs to be:- A) 'How do we get Stoke City to become a club with a ground of 30,000 ? B) THAT'S REGULARLY FULL C) That, is a world wide brand D) Home to a team challenging for the top six EPL places'? IS THAT NOT THE CHALLENGE WE SHOULD BE MAKING AS A FOOTBALL CLUB CLUB RIGHT NOW ??? Is this not what the clubs own fans should be demanding ? For so so many years Ihave seen stoke 'bottle it' on the key decisions - key investments - selling star players - not going that extra step - always choosing to play it safe - not over extend -blah blah blah - we've been close too - but always missed out on the big prizes due to cutting corners - playing safe But surely, the time is now ? Or - is this as good as it gets ? This is not even a big call if truth be told, - it is bloody obvious ! are we always destined to be -- a club with a big heart but limited aspiration ? Top post.you only have to look at mr scholes,to know the answer.small time Every time. I dont see bet365 standing still,they look to expand at every opportunity. I could understand it if it was going to cost megabucks. But 3-4m for fucks sake.just get it fucking done.the stadium looks wank.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 12:14:50 GMT
I'll freely admit, we have come a long way in the last seven years or so -We have the facilitIes - the team - the manager -the infrastructure - the income
WHAT IS STOPPING THIS NEXT STEP ?
sends a very clear message this one - yet ---- nothing doing ?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on May 26, 2014 12:16:44 GMT
totally with you on this one tony. Keep banging the drum
if we want to continue competing with the top clubs in England we need to look forward not back.
3 or 4m is absolutely gnat's piss in todays football world. It can even be offset for FFP purposes I believe so it doesnt have to detract from our investments in the team.
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Post by Sfance on May 26, 2014 12:44:19 GMT
In the Sixties we famously watered the pitch every Saturday morning to give us an advantage over teams that weren't used to playing in those conditions. It's entirely likely that the windy conditions at the Brit are a primary reason why we survived the Pulis years and stayed up. Now happily we've got past that period and If the team fulfills the expectations in the coming season - which are higher than they've been since the 70's - the demand for more seating will be clear and Coates will fill the corners next summer. No need to do it until the demand is there - especially if it gets us points.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 13:29:33 GMT
Stoke are going to fill the corners in.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on May 26, 2014 14:00:12 GMT
is there any way to ask the club what their plans are? Is the fans forum the correct route to go? Maybe find out where Scholes is holidaying and accost him?
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