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Post by maninasuitcase on May 26, 2014 14:01:25 GMT
While we're at it let's make the boothen concourse a bit bloody bigger too. It's claustrophobic in there on match days.
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Post by stokiejoe on May 26, 2014 14:18:36 GMT
To me there is an obvious solutuon. Fill in the corner to protect from the elements but not intall seats, that stops the wind spoiling conditions and can be used for advertising hoardings or whatever. If and when there is a demand install seats.
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Post by maninasuitcase on May 26, 2014 14:34:38 GMT
To me there is an obvious solutuon. Fill in the corner to protect from the elements but not intall seats, that stops the wind spoiling conditions and can be used for advertising hoardings or whatever. If and when there is a demand install seats. Or do what hibs have done at easter road and put to giant advertising boards in. Guaranteed income until we decide what to do. Although I'm sure it got vetoed between the boothen and js stand I believe ?
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Post by stokebloke on May 26, 2014 14:59:00 GMT
I like the open corners...let the wind howl in!!
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Post by sandbach on May 26, 2014 15:04:48 GMT
Fill the corners with safe standing, £10 per game, filled every week, easy..
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 15:47:08 GMT
While we're at it let's make the boothen concourse a bit bloody bigger too. It's claustrophobic in there on match days. thats why i departed to the south stand much more civilised. cant see it being a major building project either just move the bars to the outside that would free up a lot more space.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 15:57:03 GMT
Tell you what also needs much improvement. The escape route from the ground after the game. It's nothing short of a disgrace! that for me is one of the reasons why they havent expanded the stadium. the present road system cannot cope as it is. i have an idea,build a mono rail encircling the potteries with the britt as one of the stations, sorted
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 26, 2014 16:01:44 GMT
Fill the corners with safe standing, £10 per game, filled every week, easy.. And never pay it off in a life time.
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Post by sandbach on May 26, 2014 16:32:18 GMT
£600,000 per season + food, drink and programs etc. How much are breeze blocks, plastic seats and corrugated plastic??? This will also encourage the next generation of fans, which the premiership has forgotten about.
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Post by Pugsley on May 26, 2014 17:06:18 GMT
Rail SEATING aka safe standing will never result in in lower ticket prices. Greedy clubs and chairman will never lower prices.
Only narrow mindedness is stopping us filling the corner in.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 26, 2014 21:01:35 GMT
To me there is an obvious solutuon. Fill in the corner to protect from the elements but not intall seats, that stops the wind spoiling conditions and can be used for advertising hoardings or whatever. If and when there is a demand install seats. They tried that a few years ago, but the council turned down planning permission for reasons unknown.
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Post by BuzzB on May 26, 2014 21:31:18 GMT
To me there is an obvious solutuon. Fill in the corner to protect from the elements but not intall seats, that stops the wind spoiling conditions and can be used for advertising hoardings or whatever. If and when there is a demand install seats. They tried that a few years ago, but the council turned down planning permission for reasons unknown. apparently it would have distracted the drivers on the A50, that was their reason for refusal I believe.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 26, 2014 22:10:26 GMT
They tried that a few years ago, but the council turned down planning permission for reasons unknown. apparently it would have distracted the drivers on the A50, that was their reason for refusal I believe. I think the people at the council's planning department may be delusional fantasists, based on that.
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Post by djduncanjames on May 27, 2014 1:38:16 GMT
To me there is an obvious solutuon. Fill in the corner to protect from the elements but not intall seats, that stops the wind spoiling conditions and can be used for advertising hoardings or whatever. If and when there is a demand install seats. They tried that a few years ago, but the council turned down planning permission for reasons unknown. Surely Dominoes Pizza would pay a pretty penny to advertise no?
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Post by fentonstokie1 on May 27, 2014 18:44:25 GMT
After the massive TV & 9th place pay out coupled with the increased season ticket sales isn't about time the club came out and explained why they are still bottling it over such a small investment which would in the end help them to increase our fanbase. I was at the Brit on Saturday to watch the lad play in a charity game for Novus and the empty ground looked really shoddy and unfinished, I have travelled to a lot of away matches and the Brit beats most for sheer brutal ugliness.
Some have mentioned that the Boothen concourse is too small, but what about the toilet entrances would it cost much to widen them so that we can get in and out without risking peeing ourselves in the struggle.
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Post by 1raytuper on May 27, 2014 19:03:59 GMT
Fill the corners with safe standing, £10 per game, filled every week, easy.. i think a few season tkt buyers would be pissed off to see people getting in for £10 every game. go and have another think,its not so easy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 16:42:58 GMT
its time to fill in the corners, now we are established in the prem ive only been in the boothen end a few times and I always think the view of the stadium isn't very good
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Post by nott1 on Jun 5, 2014 16:45:28 GMT
You are right it is an old taking point, and it pops up every week!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 16:45:36 GMT
considering the title of your thread, why bother? people will just go over exactly the same arguments for and against as usual
the most salient argument is that Coates knows what he's doing and if he thought it was a good idea he'd do it..not as if he's some cheap bastard who's hard up and just not bothering for no particular reason. he's one of the richest people in Britain so i credit him with a bit more nouse than that
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 16:50:43 GMT
I think it will keep being talked about until its done
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Post by Billy the kid on Jun 5, 2014 17:10:22 GMT
If Coates says it's not viable at this time...... Then it isn't. If such a time comes when it will be viable, then it will be done.
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Post by ukcstokie on Jun 5, 2014 17:21:51 GMT
Watch set.
I'll come back in a week to rest it by the next thread on it.
PS I'm all in favour. Only way we can progress is to have brilliant management and great signings (which we're doing) or to increase revenue more than our peers. Increasing capacity will increase crowds, even if we don't see out every game.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 19:07:05 GMT
This should be moved to Uk's thread. Come on admin!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 21:21:38 GMT
Have they started it yet ?
Im waiting !
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 19:16:49 GMT
Tony Scholes article in the Sentinal today (read in my lunchtime) thoughts Whilst its dead easy to spend somebody else's money, and I tried to read his points carefully I thought his explanation of why they're not ready to do it yet inexplicable actually. What part of - 'you expand to create capacity' - = then fill it - DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ? Already ground occupancy and pricing is causing a limit to our obvious upwelling and resurgence of support I feel sure many on here have plenty of examples (as I do) of people around them - family and friends already wanting to go but, unable to because of 1) Ticket pricing in general and affordability for the local populace 2) Ticketing strategies around game categorisation (£40 odd quid a game in S.O.T ? c'mon your having a laugh) 2) limitations on the number of seats available to the casual match day visitor, etc etc if our ground capacity is already at 96% plus but, you argue you need even more attendees before you expand - it will never move onward - or, increase in capacity I just see this ultra cautious approach adopted by our owners and particularly our chief executive as a self defeating strategy that will default to doing absolutely nothing. (maybe this is what these scardy cats now actually want ? ) I still see this ground modification as 'small potatoes' relatively in the overall scheme of things and if anything - overdue Even if not fully occupied for all games -it tips us into a category (like Championship Derby County) i.e 30k plus - able to hold internationals and, with keener lower pricing and opening the away stand entirely for away supporters - the business case remains a 'no brainer' SURELY ? so CMON Stoke City - why dont you 'grow a pair' and show you mean business off the pitch as well as on it and Mr Scholes - with all the money sloshing about (as much as you try to hide it) - your'e far too conservative mate !
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 21:22:41 GMT
A bit of padding on the seats wouldn't go amiss either!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2014 16:50:49 GMT
(16th June 2014) Today in the Sentinal - again - Record season ticket sale projections announced by the very same chief executive scared of his own shadow when it comes to fitting in another 2500 seats, in a corner already planned and permitted for ?
if nothing else - to at least make our ground look finished to the growing worldwide audience now regularly tuning in to our
'smalltown - medieval village - mentality football club'
22,000 season tickets plus - 3- 5000 away supporters against a book capacity of 27,500 leaves = hardly any seats at all in terms of casual support on the day / week before ticket purchases
i.e. Kamikazi business management and an abject lack of ambition exhibited by our club and chief executive
(walks away shaking head in disbelief!!!!!)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2014 15:10:54 GMT
Repeated on the more relevant thread Previously posted on one about Warrington rugby league (a minority sport for the north of England some of you may have heard about) Whilst we are on about Warrington that, majors on that 'mickey mouse egg chasing game in mickey mouse northern towns only, just like Warringotn who, like Stoke, built their new ground without having filled in the corners a few years ago HAS NOW FILLED IN THE CORNERS (WELL AT LEAST ONE THAT WASN'T) as far as I can see was getting crowds - 10 -12 thousand and increased capacity anticipating increased demand (apparantly) and its a minority sport in a fucking hic town Meanwhile, that massive urban metropolis known as the 'City of Stoke upon Trent (a city mind) and 'mighty Stoke City' , playing a far more popular sport in supposedly, the best football league in the world (the club that I love)with, a returning fan base and now routine worldwide exposure and - having just shit another £76 million last season apparently cant manage it ? Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/231866/warrington?page=1&scrollTo=4339715#ixzz35NgH7aGC
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Jun 22, 2014 15:24:16 GMT
A bit of padding on the seats wouldn't go amiss either! If the club actually listened the supporters, they could generate most of the money needed to fill the corner. £20 or whatever to have a pad put on your seat for the season. Simple initiative. If the supporters want it, give it to them. Fans are happy, club makes money.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 22, 2014 15:28:13 GMT
Repeated on the more relevant thread Previously posted on one about Warrington rugby league (a minority sport for the north of England some of you may have heard about) Whilst we are on about Warrington that, majors on that 'mickey mouse egg chasing game in mickey mouse northern towns only, just like Warringotn who, like Stoke, built their new ground without having filled in the corners a few years ago HAS NOW FILLED IN THE CORNERS (WELL AT LEAST ONE THAT WASN'T) as far as I can see was getting crowds - 10 -12 thousand and increased capacity anticipating increased demand (apparantly) and its a minority sport in a fucking hic town Meanwhile, that massive urban metropolis known as the 'City of Stoke upon Trent (a city mind) and 'mighty Stoke City' , playing a far more popular sport in supposedly, the best football league in the world (the club that I love)with, a returning fan base and now routine worldwide exposure and - having just shit another £76 million last season apparently cant manage it ? Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/231866/warrington?page=1&scrollTo=4339715#ixzz35NgH7aGCStoke could manage it if it was needed, it ain't, Coates isn't a fool, if he thought it was financially viable he'd do it, if we get full houses for games other than the big four next season maybe he'll do it.
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