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Post by djh on Jan 20, 2014 12:44:55 GMT
That was one of the most shameful episodes in Stoke City history on Saturday. Stoke fans cheering the opposition and making their job easier. Utterly disgusting.
The thing with these people is that they just won't accept that they are wrong. They have the exact same mindset as the piece of work that they worship. Constantly showing their arses in public and not a care in the world about it.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 20, 2014 12:49:04 GMT
Stoke fans cheering the opposition and making their job easier. Utterly disgusting. .
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Post by djh on Jan 20, 2014 12:54:21 GMT
You can pull your trousers back up now.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 20, 2014 12:58:22 GMT
It was what it was. A pretty small recognition of a big part of our history. No need for bullshit.
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Post by Gods on Jan 20, 2014 13:03:16 GMT
That was one of the most shameful episodes in Stoke City history on Saturday. Stoke fans cheering the opposition and making their job easier. Utterly disgusting. The thing with these people is that they just won't accept that they are wrong. They have the exact same mindset as the piece of work that they worship. Constantly showing their arses in public and not a care in the world about it. I thought the short tribute to Tony ahead of the game was classy, well observed and judged just about right. The fact that we went on to lose the match was a problem of our own making. But you knew all that anyway really.
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Post by RAF on Jan 20, 2014 13:12:20 GMT
I take it you can't read as well as not attend matches. I said I don't give a fuck what you think or whether you believe me or not. I'm not the only one on this message board who thinks the same. I take it you couldn't even be arsed to read Tazi's history then? H I can read just fine. The fact you avoid the point in hand (namely that you're talking utter bollocks) by saying you 'don't give a shit what I think' only further proves my point. If you really didn't give a shit then you'd just stop replying. The real reason is because there's no evidence to back up your hilarious claims. I've read plenty of Tazi's posts and while I don't agree with a lot of what he says, I've never seen him say anything to suggest he wants Stoke to fail and Palace to succeed. I think I'll just leave it there as it's really hard work getting anywhere with you. Ive not avoided anything, I'm just not trawling through posts just because you don't believe me. Tazi has history for this, he's even been caught out deleting the very such posts we are discussing. Dont take my word for it, ask admin. Hes not the only one either. Had you been at the match on Saturday you would have seen and heard it for yourself, unfortunately I didnt think to video especially for you. You leave it though, because it's easier for you to do so. H
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Post by RAF on Jan 20, 2014 13:14:49 GMT
That was one of the most shameful episodes in Stoke City history on Saturday. Stoke fans cheering the opposition and making their job easier. Utterly disgusting. The thing with these people is that they just won't accept that they are wrong. They have the exact same mindset as the piece of work that they worship. Constantly showing their arses in public and not a care in the world about it. I thought the short tribute to Tony ahead of the game was classy, well observed and judged just about right. The fact that we went on to lose the match was a problem of our own making. But you knew all that anyway really. What were your thoughts of the Tony give us a wave on about 40 mins from a group of our fans at the front? Classy? The same lot that were shouting his name and waving to him at full time as he jogged off smirking? H
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Post by mcf on Jan 20, 2014 13:17:28 GMT
Even I wouldn't have done that.
Yep, I'd have been mightly pissed off and sulking like a baby that he wasn't still our manager but I wouldn't have shouted his name at all as soon as the whistle went.
...actually, that's a lie ...i would have joined in 'he wears the club shop' ribbing
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Post by Gods on Jan 20, 2014 13:18:37 GMT
I thought the short tribute to Tony ahead of the game was classy, well observed and judged just about right. The fact that we went on to lose the match was a problem of our own making. But you knew all that anyway really. What were your thoughts of the Tony give us a wave on about 40 mins from a group of our fans at the front? Classy? The same lot that were shouting his name and waving to him at full time as he jogged off smirking? H I didn't notice that, I was judging it in the round, which is all you can sensibly do with anything of this kind.
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Post by RAF on Jan 20, 2014 13:33:21 GMT
What were your thoughts of the Tony give us a wave on about 40 mins from a group of our fans at the front? Classy? The same lot that were shouting his name and waving to him at full time as he jogged off smirking? H I didn't notice that, I was judging it in the round, which is all you can sensibly do with anything of this kind. That's all very well until you get know it alls telling you it never happened when it was witnessed first hand. H
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Post by djh on Jan 20, 2014 13:38:43 GMT
The fact is that there are Stoke fans out there who's support for Tony Pulis outweighs their support for Stoke City.
Pulis will be laughing his balls off at Stoke City today and a section of our own 'support' played their part for him.
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Post by shep207 on Jan 20, 2014 13:41:42 GMT
I didn't notice that, I was judging it in the round, which is all you can sensibly do with anything of this kind. That's all very well until you get know it alls telling you it never happened when it was witnessed first hand. H I don't know if you're referring to me but I should probably point out that I've never said some fans weren't cheering his name during the match. I wasn't there (as you seem to like pointing out) so I can't say whether it did or not. I just don't automatically link that with those fans wanting us to lose and Palace to win. I think that's an utterly ridiculous conclusion to come to.
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Post by Gods on Jan 20, 2014 13:43:49 GMT
I didn't notice that, I was judging it in the round, which is all you can sensibly do with anything of this kind. That's all very well until you get know it alls telling you it never happened when it was witnessed first hand. H Fair enough, I wouldn't advocate that.
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Post by PotterEd on Jan 20, 2014 13:50:04 GMT
Just to be pedantic, I think you mean you 'couldn't' care less, not 'could' care less. Unless you could actually care less.
David Mitchell puts it much better than I do....
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Post by mermaidsal on Jan 20, 2014 13:51:02 GMT
Ted, really good analysis imo. I think the problem is how big a shadow, good and bad, Tone cast, versus what is so far a vague and inconsistent one coming from Hughes. Yes, great if he gets the backing from the Coateses but it's probably too late for this window and that may be too late for the season's outcome. And I'm not sure any number of quality defensive signings would cover up his tactical shortcomings in that area. I feel like I'm not alone trying hard to believe in the guy but whenever I do, he just becomes so lost again I just can't. Whereas love Tone or hate him, you knew what you were dealing with. So I'd say the shadow is persisting for those psychological reasons as much as anything else.
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Jan 20, 2014 13:57:52 GMT
The fact is that there are Stoke fans out there who's support for Tony Pulis outweighs their support for Stoke City. Pulis will be laughing his balls off at Stoke City today and a section of our own 'support' played their part for him. Really I don't think so, did you really think he was going to come out and say I really want Stoke to win today, when he is the manager of another club ?? He is a decent bloke, regardless of what I & many others think of his managerial ability, but he appreciated it, and I don't not believe he would ever be laughing behind our backs in that way.
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Post by RAF on Jan 20, 2014 13:58:15 GMT
That's all very well until you get know it alls telling you it never happened when it was witnessed first hand. H I don't know if you're referring to me but I should probably point out that I've never said some fans weren't cheering his name during the match. I wasn't there (as you seem to like pointing out) so I can't say whether it did or not. I just don't automatically link that with those fans wanting us to lose and Palace to win. I think that's an utterly ridiculous conclusion to come to. So much for 'Leaving it there' anyway it wasn't specifically aimed directly at you , but to anyone who doesn't believe that this was going on. I'm not talking about Cheering him at the start and even the fucking pathetic banners. It was the Tony give us a wave on 40 mins, the waving and shouting to him at the end, the back slapping and laughing about how Tone had done Hughesy like a kipper! They aren't the actions of people who put their club first! Disgraceful behaviour! H
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Post by sutekh on Jan 20, 2014 14:05:31 GMT
I don't know if you're referring to me but I should probably point out that I've never said some fans weren't cheering his name during the match. I wasn't there (as you seem to like pointing out) so I can't say whether it did or not. I just don't automatically link that with those fans wanting us to lose and Palace to win. I think that's an utterly ridiculous conclusion to come to. So much for 'Leaving it there' anyway it wasn't specifically aimed directly at you , but to anyone who doesn't believe that this was going on. I'm not talking about Cheering him at the start and even the fucking pathetic banners. It was the Tony give us a wave on 40 mins, the waving and shouting to him at the end, the back slapping and laughing about how Tone had done Hughesy like a kipper! They aren't the actions of people who put their club first! Disgraceful behaviour! H If this is true then the scum involved should be strung up with piano wire.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 20, 2014 14:05:58 GMT
Sadly Saturday was pretty much written in the stars from the moment Crystal Palace appointed Pulis as manager. I actually believe no matter how we had played the outcome would sadly be the same. As it happens we were woeful and against a pretty awful side as well. It isn’t just us, it happens time and time again when a manager comes back to haunt his previous club. As I said we helped make it easier by playing so poorly and just allowing his tactics to stifle us. That said I am not going to congratulate him or wish him well for the rest of the season because I am sorry and it will upset some I could care less about Tony Pulis and Crystal Palace, they are rivals in a dogfight to avoid relegation and therefore I want them gone. The problem with some people on here, they would actually prefer Tony Pulis to keep his never been relegated tag if it came to a straight fight with us or that’s how it seems at times. I could care less if he threw himself of Tower Bridge if they got relegated if it was between them and us. For me he is no longer manager of Stoke City and therefore I could not give a damn about him. I support this club I don’t support a manager. I wish him all the best in his private life but as far as football goes he means no more to me now than Wenger, just another manager of a club I could care less about. That does not denigrate what he achieved as Stoke manager and I will always be appreciative of those achievements but time moves on and so has Tony Pulis and we need to do the same. If on the last day of the season he had to win a game to send us down, do those who adore him think he would hesitate to do so, he may love this club but we are rivals now and he would do and not care a damn. I am fine with supporters giving him a round of applause on Saturday but making banners for the opposition’s manager is for me over the top but it’s a free country and people can show their appreciation however they wished. Though I remember some of the same people getting very bent out of shape when a few people went on a weekend to see a previous manager, who was managing a club in another country not the manager of a side we were competing against. That was tantamount to treason apparently but showing appreciation and support for the opposition manager is fine. I don’t object to either it’s a free world but I would not have personally shown support for the opposing manager irrespective of the circumstances. Is Mark Hughes the man for the job that remains to be seen but unless he gets the same backing in the transfer market as the previous incumbent we will never know? You can’t be asked to change direction and soften how we play and then be left out to dry financially. We need pace, we need better footballers and we need them now. There is a lot of talk about legacy over the weekend and what Pulis left behind, well in the most part he left behind an average squad who were devoid of goals, creativity and pace. I am not going to go into all the old divisions. That was there for all to see over the last 2 years he was in charge. I am grateful for what Tony Pulis did as manager second time around. There were far more good times than bad overall but he seemed to shoot himself in the foot every time he seemed to have found a formula that worked. The last 18 months with the odd exception were painful, that was his fault as he had total trust and control from above. The Saddest part for me it could have been so different. For me the legacy will be, he got us into the Premier League, a cup final and Europe and kept us there but it was in those last years at the expense of enjoyment. You left games so many times thinking why the hell do I keep going hoping for better. So his legacy he gave us many wonderful days but sadly left many with a feeling it could have been so much better. Mark Hughes hasn’t really addressed those issues yet, is that his fault or the boards for not backing him with sufficient funds, we won’t really know that until February the 1st. I don’t think we will go down, mainly because I think there are three worse sides than us and we have shown enough to give me optimism for the second half of the season but we need a natural scorer and the defence needs to be organized again, Huth can’t return fast enough. It’s time to put aside all the legacy and who should or should not be in charge, we have a manager he has a tough job to do but we are in mid table not bottom of the league. At the moment we are in a relegation fight but so are 9 other clubs. When we beat Chelsea were the harbingers of doom out in force, nope but that’s football, we win a few games and it will be fine and dandy again. This time last year we were on an awful run and anyone who voiced a concern was told shut up and in TP we trust, the same people tell us now we’re doomed and It’s time to get the road maps to Doncaster out. Of course we should be concerned as any of those other clubs supporters should be. I believe we will survive and thrive in time but Mr Coates has to back Mark Hughes with the same vigour he backed Tony Pulis or in real terms what was the point in changing anything. A change of style and direction will only truly work with players who are comfortable in their own skin. We have a side that despite some really good games are still not sure when they should be playing football and when they should not. I don’t think anyone is asking for 20 million to be spent but enough to get a couple of decent players who can score goals and change the game. I don’t expect people to agree with me and it’s my point of view. I just think Saturdays result opened up some wounds and unless we can just see it as another game and one where we played badly and ignore who was the manager in the opposition dug out, we will all be better off. Well, that worked. A post designed to encourage people to forget Pulis begins another multi page debate of Pulis. On another note after the inevitability of Saturdays no show and nil points time for the players to show some bottle and perform as they've shown they can. There's still plenty of shite in the league to suggest we can survive and potentially thrive this season.
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Post by gonk on Jan 20, 2014 14:57:18 GMT
I don't know if you're referring to me but I should probably point out that I've never said some fans weren't cheering his name during the match. I wasn't there (as you seem to like pointing out) so I can't say whether it did or not. I just don't automatically link that with those fans wanting us to lose and Palace to win. I think that's an utterly ridiculous conclusion to come to. So much for 'Leaving it there' anyway it wasn't specifically aimed directly at you , but to anyone who doesn't believe that this was going on. I'm not talking about Cheering him at the start and even the fucking pathetic banners. It was the Tony give us a wave on 40 mins, the waving and shouting to him at the end, the back slapping and laughing about how Tone had done Hughesy like a kipper! They aren't the actions of people who put their club first! Disgraceful behaviour! H spot on there what you have just said.Also the way he celebrated there goal he did not show the respect the stoke fans had shown him before the kick off.
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Post by wozzerthepotter on Jan 20, 2014 16:27:57 GMT
Sadly Saturday was pretty much written in the stars from the moment Crystal Palace appointed Pulis as manager. I actually believe no matter how we had played the outcome would sadly be the same. As it happens we were woeful and against a pretty awful side as well. It isn’t just us, it happens time and time again when a manager comes back to haunt his previous club. As I said we helped make it easier by playing so poorly and just allowing his tactics to stifle us. That said I am not going to congratulate him or wish him well for the rest of the season because I am sorry and it will upset some I could care less about Tony Pulis and Crystal Palace, they are rivals in a dogfight to avoid relegation and therefore I want them gone. The problem with some people on here, they would actually prefer Tony Pulis to keep his never been relegated tag if it came to a straight fight with us or that’s how it seems at times. I could care less if he threw himself of Tower Bridge if they got relegated if it was between them and us. For me he is no longer manager of Stoke City and therefore I could not give a damn about him. I support this club I don’t support a manager. I wish him all the best in his private life but as far as football goes he means no more to me now than Wenger, just another manager of a club I could care less about. That does not denigrate what he achieved as Stoke manager and I will always be appreciative of those achievements but time moves on and so has Tony Pulis and we need to do the same. If on the last day of the season he had to win a game to send us down, do those who adore him think he would hesitate to do so, he may love this club but we are rivals now and he would do and not care a damn. I am fine with supporters giving him a round of applause on Saturday but making banners for the opposition’s manager is for me over the top but it’s a free country and people can show their appreciation however they wished. Though I remember some of the same people getting very bent out of shape when a few people went on a weekend to see a previous manager, who was managing a club in another country not the manager of a side we were competing against. That was tantamount to treason apparently but showing appreciation and support for the opposition manager is fine. I don’t object to either it’s a free world but I would not have personally shown support for the opposing manager irrespective of the circumstances. Is Mark Hughes the man for the job that remains to be seen but unless he gets the same backing in the transfer market as the previous incumbent we will never know? You can’t be asked to change direction and soften how we play and then be left out to dry financially. We need pace, we need better footballers and we need them now. There is a lot of talk about legacy over the weekend and what Pulis left behind, well in the most part he left behind an average squad who were devoid of goals, creativity and pace. I am not going to go into all the old divisions. That was there for all to see over the last 2 years he was in charge. I am grateful for what Tony Pulis did as manager second time around. There were far more good times than bad overall but he seemed to shoot himself in the foot every time he seemed to have found a formula that worked. The last 18 months with the odd exception were painful, that was his fault as he had total trust and control from above. The Saddest part for me it could have been so different. For me the legacy will be, he got us into the Premier League, a cup final and Europe and kept us there but it was in those last years at the expense of enjoyment. You left games so many times thinking why the hell do I keep going hoping for better. So his legacy he gave us many wonderful days but sadly left many with a feeling it could have been so much better. Mark Hughes hasn’t really addressed those issues yet, is that his fault or the boards for not backing him with sufficient funds, we won’t really know that until February the 1st. I don’t think we will go down, mainly because I think there are three worse sides than us and we have shown enough to give me optimism for the second half of the season but we need a natural scorer and the defence needs to be organized again, Huth can’t return fast enough. It’s time to put aside all the legacy and who should or should not be in charge, we have a manager he has a tough job to do but we are in mid table not bottom of the league. At the moment we are in a relegation fight but so are 9 other clubs. When we beat Chelsea were the harbingers of doom out in force, nope but that’s football, we win a few games and it will be fine and dandy again. This time last year we were on an awful run and anyone who voiced a concern was told shut up and in TP we trust, the same people tell us now we’re doomed and It’s time to get the road maps to Doncaster out. Of course we should be concerned as any of those other clubs supporters should be. I believe we will survive and thrive in time but Mr Coates has to back Mark Hughes with the same vigour he backed Tony Pulis or in real terms what was the point in changing anything. A change of style and direction will only truly work with players who are comfortable in their own skin. We have a side that despite some really good games are still not sure when they should be playing football and when they should not. I don’t think anyone is asking for 20 million to be spent but enough to get a couple of decent players who can score goals and change the game. I don’t expect people to agree with me and it’s my point of view. I just think Saturdays result opened up some wounds and unless we can just see it as another game and one where we played badly and ignore who was the manager in the opposition dug out, we will all be better off. Great post I have spent 2 days and nights deliberating whether to post about Saturday I have been a Stoke fan for the best part of 50yrs and as far as I am concerned Saturday was one of the saddest days in all those years. I could go over my feelings about the previous manager and what he achieved and my opinion of it but I won't. Did the people who were part of this "tribute" give any thought to the affect on the team of players they had come to support who had to listen to this crap whilst they were in the changing room warming up and actually playing? This about a bloke who gave a number of the people in the match day squad shit during their time at the club. One of the major tactics in this league when playing away is you spend the first 20 mins quietening the home crowd then hopefully your supporters can be heard and you can move onto the front foot and hopefully win the game - some chance when the away fans are cheering for the home manager and sighing every time you miss a pass or mistime a tackle.
What did these people expect the result to be?
Having said that this is all history now, as a group of supporters wthat we need to get behind the team and the manager and support them for 90 minutes of every game like we did when first in the prem, a single point we may be able to help could be the one that keeps us in the league - It could be that close
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Post by thevoid on Jan 20, 2014 19:09:44 GMT
There was a Stoke 'fan' on my Facebook who was taking great delight in Saturday's result.
I asked him if he was joking and he said no.
They're like the fucking Manson Family- mindless, brainwashed drones.
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Post by shep207 on Jan 20, 2014 19:17:46 GMT
There was a Stoke 'fan' on my Facebook who was taking great delight in Saturday's result. I asked him if he was joking and he said no. They're like the fucking Manson Family- mindless, brainwashed drones. What was he saying?
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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Jan 20, 2014 19:33:34 GMT
Hey up Ted's back. Saying in 3,000 words what many can say in 30.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2014 21:40:49 GMT
I can read just fine. The fact you avoid the point in hand (namely that you're talking utter bollocks) by saying you 'don't give a shit what I think' only further proves my point. If you really didn't give a shit then you'd just stop replying. The real reason is because there's no evidence to back up your hilarious claims. I've read plenty of Tazi's posts and while I don't agree with a lot of what he says, I've never seen him say anything to suggest he wants Stoke to fail and Palace to succeed. I think I'll just leave it there as it's really hard work getting anywhere with you. Ive not avoided anything, I'm just not trawling through posts just because you don't believe me. Tazi has history for this, he's even been caught out deleting the very such posts we are discussing. Dont take my word for it, ask admin. Hes not the only one either. Had you been at the match on Saturday you would have seen and heard it for yourself, unfortunately I didnt think to video especially for you. You leave it though, because it's easier for you to do so. H I've deleted what exactly?. Goodness me this RAF tells lies.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2014 21:57:16 GMT
The fucking irony. When Pulis was in charge you are your ilk were accusing those that did not like Pulis that they would rather Stoke got relegated than see Pulis succeed. What wasn't fucking moronic or pretty tiring about that because it happened for nearly ten bastard years. Just have a look at Tazi's posts for one if you want to see suggestions of wanting Pulis to succeed more than us, and there are other posters who can barely hide their joy. If you were at the game on Saturday you would have seen it first hand as well. So how about you give it a fucking rest. H No, because you're the only one talking shit. I never suggested that anyone on here wanted to see us fail to prove a point while Pulis was in charge and I thought those sentiments were equally moronic. 'You and your ilk' Yet again, you fail to link to any post that remotely implies anyone wants us to fail and Pulis to succeed. You always bang on about how so many of the fans who liked Pulis now want him to do better than us, but you only seem to ever mention Tazi specifically. Any reason? If he makes so many posts proving this point of view, how about you link just one of them? I'm struggling to find any.. Now I see where the deleted posts come into it. As for the record I've never suggested that I want Tony Pulis to succeed at the expense if stoke. You really are tiresome RAF and same as shep says please find such quotes that you say I've made.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2014 22:00:18 GMT
Another generic post that means absolutely nothing. And another post that avoids the question, most likely because there are no such statements from Tazi or any other members. I might believe you if you could just link a quote that proves your point. Unfortunately, you seem unable to do so. I take it you can't read as well as not attend matches. I said I don't give a fuck what you think or whether you believe me or not. I'm not the only one on this message board who thinks the same. I take it you couldn't even be arsed to read Tazi's history then? H Now read this thread with interest and I must say you've come unstuck against shep.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2014 22:01:29 GMT
Our support has been an embarrassment this season. We used to intimidate the opposition and there would be a loud roar for our own team everytime we crossed the half way line.
cheering for an opposition manager during the game is the cherry on top.
total wank
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Post by thevoid on Jan 20, 2014 22:06:23 GMT
There was a Stoke 'fan' on my Facebook who was taking great delight in Saturday's result. I asked him if he was joking and he said no. They're like the fucking Manson Family- mindless, brainwashed drones. What was he saying? "I'm glad Stoke lost to Palace today, in Pulis we trust." Followed by a photo of his man crush, with more "In Pulis we trust." His cover picture's Jon Walters, but I can forgive that. Tazi could send him a friend request...
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 20, 2014 22:14:01 GMT
We have received an urgent PM from Mrs Tazi.
Dear Mr Oatcake,
I write to you as my last hope.
I have lost my husband.
He was last seen bent double next to our transistor radio with a picture of Tony Pulis in his hand. At approximately 4.45pm on Saturday afternoon he gave a loud shriek out, followed by an unassisted ejaculation of jizz exploding from his already unfastened trouser area. He then stumbled up the stairs, trousers around the ankles and semen shattered Y Fronts around his knees and locked himself in the spare room where we keep the laptop.
All I have heard since has been a combination of keyboard tapping, exclamations of, "take that wankstains" and orgasmic groans that appear to be a mixture of uuuuuuurgh and Eeeeeaaaaaagles!
I fear that this will go on and on whilst he has access to the Oatcake message board or until Crystal Palace get relegated.
Please ban him. It is my only hope that he will rejoin the real world!
Yours desperately,
Mrs Tazi
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