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Post by owdestokie on Aug 24, 2013 22:06:06 GMT
Pugsley
Specs savers aren't to bad
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 24, 2013 22:07:55 GMT
Pugsley Specs savers aren't to bad I wear glasses already, but Stevie Wonder can see Walters is not a PL footballer.
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Post by owdestokie on Aug 24, 2013 22:12:19 GMT
Pugsley
Back to original question. People who have played, managed and coached at the highest level seem to disagree. However everyone is entitled to an opinion
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Post by cartman123 on Aug 24, 2013 22:15:44 GMT
Pugsley Back to original question. People who have played, managed and coached at the highest level seem to disagree. However everyone is entitled to an opinion LOL Walters is shit mate. There is 25k+ Stokies who would all run around like him for how ever much he gets paid.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 24, 2013 22:17:50 GMT
Pugsley Back to original question. People who have played, managed and coached at the highest level seem to disagree. However everyone is entitled to an opinion Obviously not me according to you it seems. Over the last two seasons what has he done for us apart from costing us points and cup ties? He's a willing runner that's about it. In fact I don't think he's fit, he appeared to be running in treacle today. Surely with the money spent we could do better?
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Post by owdestokie on Aug 24, 2013 22:20:51 GMT
Cartman
Simple question if you can understand. Three experienced football managers and backroom staff choose Walters to play what don't they know what 25000 do?
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 24, 2013 22:24:01 GMT
Cartman Simple question if you can understand. Three experienced football managers and backroom staff choose Walters to play what don't they know what 25000 do? Hughes - has no other choice because his predecessor wasted millions on rubbish, hence why a striker is a prime target. Trap - I look forward to your long list of Rep of Ireland alternatives. Pulis - loves a runner over a footballer.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 24, 2013 22:24:29 GMT
Cartman Simple question if you can understand. Three experienced football managers and backroom staff choose Walters to play what don't they know what 25000 do? I suspect the third one you mention won't be picking him for much longer (not every week anyway).
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Post by Sfance on Aug 24, 2013 22:25:46 GMT
The best you can say about Walters is that he contributes significantly more than Crouch.
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Post by cartman123 on Aug 24, 2013 22:26:42 GMT
The best you can say about Walters is that he contributes significantly more than Crouch. But he doesn't though. At least Crouch looked like scoring. The same cannot be said of Walters. He really is a terrible footballer. He should be no where near the prem.
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Post by owdestokie on Aug 24, 2013 22:26:54 GMT
Pugsley
I hope you watched Walters run in treacle on about 80 mins (watch the TV) when he skipped over the Palace keeper near the right hand post and within Seconds was covering Pieters who had gone forward over the halfway line on the left hand side of the pitch, of course that wouldn't fit with your opinion nor would his part in both goals.
As you say it's all down to opinions
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Post by owdestokie on Aug 24, 2013 22:31:32 GMT
Hey lets bring Pulis into the conversation who wasted millions!!!
Get real real.........
Facts are facts with the support of the family under Pulis's tenure this club has been transformed beyond recognition and by the way we remain within the richest league in the world
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Post by owdestokie on Aug 24, 2013 22:32:57 GMT
Cartman
Answer the question.........
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 24, 2013 22:40:41 GMT
Hey lets bring Pulis into the conversation who wasted millions!!! Get real real......... Facts are facts with the support of the family under Pulis's tenure this club has been transformed beyond recognition and by the way we remain within the richest league in the world Now the tap has been turned off we look a relegation threatened team. That's the legacy he left.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 24, 2013 22:41:55 GMT
Cartman Simple question if you can understand. Three experienced football managers and backroom staff choose Walters to play what don't they know what 25000 do? Experienced managers and coaches picked Carlton Palmer for England.
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Post by owdestokie on Aug 24, 2013 22:43:51 GMT
Has the tap been turned off?
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Post by nik80 on Aug 24, 2013 22:47:17 GMT
Pieters, Ethers, Adam and Wison were all worthy motm contenders I thought.
Getting back to Walters, he's just too fucking slow to make any great impact. Fair do's for the assist and the one run late in the first half where he didn't get any real support, those were the two things I remembered him best for.
Could never knock his work rate, but I certainly cannot buy into this idea that he's our best attacking player, I would never start with him myself.
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Post by owdestokie on Aug 24, 2013 22:48:31 GMT
Bayern
The point being? There are players who become targets for supporters who have little knowledge of the game from a professional perspective, it appears Walters is one of those.
If Walters, Whelan etc. we're to leave tomorrow who would be the next in line?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 24, 2013 22:49:50 GMT
Has the tap been turned off? No
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 24, 2013 22:52:45 GMT
Bayern The point being? There are players who become targets for supporters who have little knowledge of the game from a professional perspective, it appears Walters is one of those. If Walters, Whelan etc. we're to leave tomorrow who would be the next in line? And I don't think it's that good of a point! Because fans generally imo have a decent idea about their players and You don't need to have been a professional to see certain things imo. I don't think certain players are targeted just because of who they are. It's because they're just not very good, always mostly has been.
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Post by prem4stoke on Aug 24, 2013 22:56:42 GMT
If I were the manager he would be in my team and I am sure if you were manager he would be in yours too. He really does do the work of 2 players. Just because he doesn't do somersaults and backflips doesn't mean he can't play football. I find it hard to understand how most other clubs fans can see it, every manager he plays under can see it but for some reason some of our fans can't? Well played today Jon.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 24, 2013 22:58:27 GMT
Nah, he'd come off from the bench to see out games and to harry and hustle tired defenders with his workrate. I'd start him in some games for sure but every week? Not for me.
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Post by prem4stoke on Aug 24, 2013 23:00:02 GMT
Nah, he'd come off from the bench to see out games and to harry and hustle tired defenders with his workrate. I'd start him in some games for sure but every week? Not for me. Then maybe we wouldn't have won today! I'll let you think about it
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 24, 2013 23:01:35 GMT
Nah, he'd come off from the bench to see out games and to harry and hustle tired defenders with his workrate. I'd start him in some games for sure but every week? Not for me. Then maybe we wouldn't have won today! I'll let you think about it Or maybe we would have won by more? We simply don't know! How silly!
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Post by redwhite on Aug 24, 2013 23:05:31 GMT
Cartman Simple question if you can understand. Three experienced football managers and backroom staff choose Walters to play what don't they know what 25000 do? Hughes - has no other choice because his predecessor wasted millions on rubbish, hence why a striker is a prime target. Trap - I look forward to your long list of Rep of Ireland alternatives. Pulis - loves a runner over a footballer. Many other professional managers too... it's just they managed Crewe, Scunthorpe, Wrexham and Chester.
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Post by prem4stoke on Aug 24, 2013 23:06:16 GMT
Then maybe we wouldn't have won today! I'll let you think about it Or maybe we would have won by more? We simply don't know! How silly! Thing is we won and he had a part to play in both goals.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 24, 2013 23:07:10 GMT
Or maybe we would have won by more? We simply don't know! How silly! Thing is we won and he had a part to play in both goals. And he still looked nothing special. Poor sod.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Aug 24, 2013 23:18:47 GMT
Thing is we won and he had a part to play in both goals. And he still looked nothing special. Poor sod. he,s (Walters) at the top in his job, ar you?
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Post by prem4stoke on Aug 24, 2013 23:20:55 GMT
Thing is we won and he had a part to play in both goals. And he still looked nothing special. Poor sod. No pissing about, direct, team guy a real asset unlike some ponses. I'll tell you what ask some players what they think about him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 24, 2013 23:22:45 GMT
And he still looked nothing special. Poor sod. he,s (Walters) at the top in his job, ar you? What's that got to do with anything? And I aren't but it's as irrelevant imo as the rubbish about being a professional. It has nothing to do with judging Jon Walters. Erm....how silly!
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