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Post by 1982stokie on Aug 24, 2013 17:45:07 GMT
Walters is Walters,works hard but little else. These are my thoughts exactly
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 17:47:32 GMT
Squad player!
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Post by cartman123 on Aug 24, 2013 17:48:39 GMT
Magnificent? He was terrible once again. His lack of pace is seriously crippling us in the final third. And when he gets the ball he runs into 3 or 4 Crystal Palace players. Hope we get that Liverpool guy on loan so we can move Walters to the bench.
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Post by 1982stokie on Aug 24, 2013 17:51:08 GMT
Magnificent? He was terrible once again. His lack of pace is seriously crippling us in the final third. And when he gets the ball he runs into 3 or 4 Crystal Palace players. Hope we get that Liverpool guy on loan so we can move Walters to the bench. I don't think it will be Walters who is replaced I think it will be etherington dropped
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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Aug 24, 2013 17:54:45 GMT
He was alright, although pretty ineffective. Etherington was my MOTM. Really? I thought he was poor.
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Post by OnionBag on Aug 24, 2013 17:57:01 GMT
Someone mentioned pace? There was one time in the first half when he ran onto a through ball I could swear he was running backwards!
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Post by The Stubborn Optimist on Aug 24, 2013 19:07:01 GMT
I'll have some of whatever drugs the opening poster's on.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Aug 24, 2013 19:18:13 GMT
MOTM
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 24, 2013 19:55:15 GMT
great attitude , good player just a yard too slow sadly for how we play also not clinical enough , but one of our best players today for sure
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 24, 2013 19:58:10 GMT
Walters is a good player for us but in all honesty we need better to stay in the upper table Hughes knows this but until we get em in he's one of our better players..
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 24, 2013 20:20:52 GMT
Walters barely did a thing right all game but he did lay on Adam's goal.
Crouch barely did a thing right either but his total inability to control a ball with his chest (he always chests it way above his own head) led to Walters laying on Adam's goal.
Both of them are absolutely abysmal and contributed massively to our pretty poor first half display once they got their goal.
We are doing some good things and the signs are promising, but if these 2 are regulars in our starting 11 throughout the season, we will struggle. Both of them are rubbish.
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Post by Smudge_SCFC on Aug 24, 2013 20:56:23 GMT
I don't want to criticise any Stoke player but I'm finding it hard to agree that Walters was magnificent.
He ran a lot, committed a lot of fouls and mis-controlled the ball more times than you'd expect from a top flight player. Fair play for his part in the goal though.
He's one of several players we need an upgrade on before we can truly progress as a club.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 24, 2013 20:58:54 GMT
I don't want to criticise any Stoke player but I'm finding it hard to agree that Walters was magnificent. He ran a lot, committed a lot of fouls and mis-controlled the ball more times than you'd expect from a top flight player. Fair play for his part in the goal though. He's one of several players we need an upgrade on before we can truly progress as a club. Spot on Smudge and for me Walters is at best a sub to bring on when we need to protect a lead or snatch a goal late on and that's it.
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Post by swampmongrel on Aug 24, 2013 21:02:58 GMT
Good performance today.
He's a much, much better player than he gets given credit for (on this board) IMHO.
I find it funny that as soon as Pulis was replaced the received wisdom was that we'd seen the last of SJW. But Hughes seems to have installed him as a mainstay of the side. I think if we really want to progress into the top ten we should be looking for an upgrade but at the moment he's more than good enough.
(Just keep him away from pens).
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Post by fortressbritannia on Aug 24, 2013 21:07:14 GMT
He wad the best player out of the forward, which says more about the other 2. Certainly looked like the one to score out of the 3.
Played better against Liverpool but still looked to get involved and didn't hide.
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Post by owdestokie on Aug 24, 2013 21:09:40 GMT
90th premiership game on the trot today (I think). That's two "professional" managers and advisors who keep picking him. FFS why don't they listen to few professionals on here and fuck him off?
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 24, 2013 21:10:30 GMT
Good performance today. He's a much, much better player than he gets given credit for (on this board) IMHO. I find it funny that as soon as Pulis was replaced the received wisdom was that we'd seen the last of SJW. But Hughes seems to have installed him as a mainstay of the side. I think if we really want to progress into the top ten we should be looking for an upgrade but at the moment he's more than good enough. (Just keep him away from pens). The new manager is stuck with him. Despite spending over £25million on strikers we still have to play Walters. That's part of the so called legacy. He's wank, end of. Sent from my HTC One using proboards
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 24, 2013 21:13:47 GMT
Contracts, gotta love em' won't be till 2015 till we really see major movement lads. Steady changes till then moving players into cover or reserve like our seniors of old higginbotham and sidibe.
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Post by swampmongrel on Aug 24, 2013 21:21:05 GMT
Good performance today. He's a much, much better player than he gets given credit for (on this board) IMHO. I find it funny that as soon as Pulis was replaced the received wisdom was that we'd seen the last of SJW. But Hughes seems to have installed him as a mainstay of the side. I think if we really want to progress into the top ten we should be looking for an upgrade but at the moment he's more than good enough. (Just keep him away from pens). The new manager is stuck with him. Despite spending over £25million on strikers we still have to play Walters. That's part of the so called legacy. He's wank, end of. Sent from my HTC One using proboards He's not 'stuck' with him though is he? Hughes has several other options in the squad but he chooses to continue with JW. So that's at least two Premier League managers (and Trappatoni) who rate him. Yet Pugsley, apparently, knows better.
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Post by owdestokie on Aug 24, 2013 21:26:45 GMT
Pugsley
Out of interest what are your "professional" coaching badges that can substantiate your claim?
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Post by mark71 on Aug 24, 2013 21:28:07 GMT
The modern day Andy Cooke. Works his nads off every game, give absolutely everything for the team but is extremely limited technically. If walters skill matched his work rate he'd be moving to Madrid for £90m. The reality is he'll move to the championship for £1m.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 24, 2013 21:30:50 GMT
I don't want to criticise any Stoke player but I'm finding it hard to agree that Walters was magnificent. He ran a lot, committed a lot of fouls and mis-controlled the ball more times than you'd expect from a top flight player. Fair play for his part in the goal though. He's one of several players we need an upgrade on before we can truly progress as a club. Can't argue with any of that.
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Post by adamsson on Aug 24, 2013 21:36:54 GMT
Good performance today. He's a much, much better player than he gets given credit for (on this board) IMHO. I find it funny that as soon as Pulis was replaced the received wisdom was that we'd seen the last of SJW. But Hughes seems to have installed him as a mainstay of the side. I think if we really want to progress into the top ten we should be looking for an upgrade but at the moment he's more than good enough. (Just keep him away from pens). The new manager is stuck with him. Despite spending over £25million on strikers we still have to play Walters. That's part of the so called legacy. He's wank, end of. Sent from my HTC One using proboards It is depressing to think how bad the other players must be that Walters (who was truly awful as usual) is the best we had
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Post by ianstokie on Aug 24, 2013 21:39:52 GMT
Good game for Jon today, but overall I think he muddles the play to reduce the oppositions chances to score, but unfortunately he's not a top goalscorer and stoke would score more with a better striker. Overall one of those players that increases the chance of a draw. In the future, I would use him against the big guns to reduce the number of goals against, but use him a sub when we're already winning. With what we have at present though, he is still an obvious starter.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 24, 2013 21:41:45 GMT
Pugsley Out of interest what are your "professional" coaching badges that can substantiate your claim? None, but I have a pair of eyes and understand the basics.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 24, 2013 21:43:06 GMT
The new manager is stuck with him. Despite spending over £25million on strikers we still have to play Walters. That's part of the so called legacy. He's wank, end of. Sent from my HTC One using proboards He's not 'stuck' with him though is he? Hughes has several other options in the squad but he chooses to continue with JW. So that's at least two Premier League managers (and Trappatoni) who rate him. Yet Pugsley, apparently, knows better. What options? Both Trap and Sparky have none. That's why he's scouring the market.
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Post by owdestokie on Aug 24, 2013 21:43:43 GMT
Adamson
Same question to you as I asked Pugsley earlier
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Post by cartman123 on Aug 24, 2013 21:52:45 GMT
He's close to 100 consecutive starts. That cannot happen.
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Post by Paddypotter on Aug 24, 2013 21:59:38 GMT
During the last 10 mins a cross came into the middle of the box to Walters,he must have closed his eyes to miss that one. Still could have been worse, could have been a penalty.
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 24, 2013 22:02:32 GMT
He's just very average in every single department apart from work rate, isn't he?
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