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Post by pinoypotter on Jun 18, 2013 14:37:59 GMT
Very much doubt any truth in this story. Personally.
Hope so anyway.
"Loves the Club"? Had his chances. Waster.
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Post by stokeramblers on Jun 18, 2013 14:39:47 GMT
TelegraphJohn Percy claims it's a "heavily incentivised" 12-month deal? Better. Don't want to give him any wiggle room for any shenanigans. If he acts the cunt again he needs fining and booting out for good. This is his last last last last chance. Shame it doesn't work like that in the real world
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Post by chr15 on Jun 18, 2013 14:41:23 GMT
JP needs to put a leash on her. That'd be half the battle won. It's the way of the world, unfortunately. News breaks first on Twitter.
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Post by fca47 on Jun 18, 2013 14:46:32 GMT
IF this is true ... is raises all sorts of questions doesn't it. Damning indictment of TP's man-management skills?? Has Sparky been told to cut the spending? Formations? Or is it just a cheap gamble? Why two years though? Maybe it will be a damning indictment of Mark Hughes's man management , we shall see. Pennants behavior is a matter of public record, no manager would have put up with it. Perhaps he has turned over a new leaf. Hmmm.
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Post by mickmills on Jun 18, 2013 14:47:09 GMT
I'm not pleased with this. Last time he beat his man and went to the byline was 2011...
... we're going have him slacking around the place for 2 years... We need wingers, but he's had more than enough chances. Hope we have some form of break clause in it
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Post by george2again on Jun 18, 2013 14:52:50 GMT
Please , please say he's back up. If he's out no 1 right winger were in trouble. Leslie could be digging his own grave with many more decisions like this.
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Post by badger on Jun 18, 2013 15:13:42 GMT
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 18, 2013 15:18:12 GMT
Wow.
Didn't see that coming.
Makes you wonder what really went on with Pulis. Hopefully he takes this chance.
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Post by iglugluk on Jun 18, 2013 15:20:19 GMT
I'm glad if this is true......he's the best right winger we have by some distance right now and a heavily incentivised contract could give him reason to prove himself again and won't detract from exploring other options either. Also I don't buy all this he let the club down stuff ( he's never gone public and said anything untoward either ), what did he do that required TP to freeze him out for 18 months whilst still allowing the club to pay him a substantial wage? Seems to me that it was a battle of wills between him and the manager and TP being renowned for being stubborn wasn't prepared to move on after the appropriate amount of time had elapsed to make his point. This sort of man management was a major contributor to SCFC employing a new manager imo. His favourites were always picked regardless of their ability on the pitch and eventually it caught up with TP. It will be interesting to see if Hughes decides that other players were being frozen out for non-footballing reasons.
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Jun 18, 2013 15:21:04 GMT
One year deal. Another seat at the last chance saloon. Hope he has a cracking season. Head down youth.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 18, 2013 15:23:05 GMT
Yes, a one year deal, heavily incentivised by the sounds of it, with the option of a second year if all goes well. I can live with that. Like Grapey I hope we bring in another right winger as competition but an incentivised one year deal for JP which doesn't break the bank could turn out to be good business if he can recapture some of his form of 18 months back. Hopefully, his loss of form was equally down to his run ins with TP as to his pressing of the self destruct button. Fingers crossed - but I bet most Stokies will be chuffed to bits if he does produce the goods on a regular basis.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2013 15:23:10 GMT
So we sign a bloke who could not get a game in a very poor Wolves team and some people think this is a good deal. No we are signing, hopefully, a bloke who was not allowed to train and was sent to Wolves by the former manager. Not the first casualty of TP but thankfully the last. He just needs to prove to everyone including himself that it is the right decision. And when he got to Wolves he could not get a game, that has got nothing to do with what went on here.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 18, 2013 15:23:10 GMT
Good and sensible business. A 1yr deal with conditions is sensible. Hopefully well get in a young RW in who he can bring on (in the right way). Someone like Redmond or Hoillett would be perfect.
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Post by thebet365 on Jun 18, 2013 15:23:21 GMT
Just goes to show people have no idea what goes on behind closed doors.
If Pennant had been constantly fucking about breaking curfews e,t,c would Coates really sanction another deal for him ??
Whilst a manager does need to install disciplin into a team, unfortunately we're in the modern era of football where money has put the power into the players hands and that's part n parcel of managing players. You can't just say right you're a dick you're not playing for me again.
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Post by kylelightbourne on Jun 18, 2013 15:24:27 GMT
I hope we're not pinning our hopes on him as first choice right winger
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Post by redwhite on Jun 18, 2013 15:27:03 GMT
So we sign a bloke who could not get a game in a very poor Wolves team and some people think this is a good deal. Without a doubt he was good enough to get into that team but as my Wolves supporting mate says, whenever he played he sulked around the pitch like he didn't want to be there, and he certainly didn't want to be there. I know that sort of attitude is worrying but at least it doesn't mean that he's lost his clear talent. I think he's worth a shot and hopefully a happy Pennant will mean good performances.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2013 15:28:41 GMT
on official site now
Great news is this - top -top winger for buttons
and - with something to prove
Im chuffed to bits - !
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Post by jezzascfc on Jun 18, 2013 15:33:45 GMT
I'm glad it's expressed as a 1 year deal with an option to extend and Scholes' comments suggest he is on some form of bonus based on games played rather than a big fat basic wage, so it should encourage hm to get his head down, earn his money and warrant an extension. Fair enough for me, as he has the talent, it is always his temperament that is in question.
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Post by iglugluk on Jun 18, 2013 15:34:28 GMT
Good stuff!! As I said already it will be interesting to see who else get's a look in now we have a different manager.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2013 15:36:50 GMT
If he gets his head down and realises that this is his last chance he will have a good season, as he will be on a low basic if he plays up im sure the club will just fuck him off.
Good luck to him.
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Post by BigKahunaBurger on Jun 18, 2013 15:37:39 GMT
Yes! Ohhhh Jerrrmmmaaaaaiiinnneee Peeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnant...... Very happy with this news
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Post by phil51 on Jun 18, 2013 15:39:24 GMT
Shocked!
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jun 18, 2013 15:39:41 GMT
It's a poor, poor decision on so many levels in my opinion.
Firstly, this summer represented a great opportunity to clear out the deadwood and start with a clean slate in a number of positions.
Putting, disciplinnary issues aside, we haven't seen a good Jermaine Pennant for a few years now. Whilst he didn't have many opportunities with us last season, he had plenty of chances to shine with Wolves in a lower league. They couldn't send him packing quick enough though as his performances were shit.
Everything I have seen since Pulis was sacked points towards us trying to do things on the cheap now. Lesley Mark Hughes was a convenient appointment because he was cheap. Jermaine Pennant is our first 'signing' because he's cheap. I really hope this isn't the shape of things to come but it doesn't look promising at all.
Regardless of the deal Pennant is on, it's a not a 'no lose' situation. Because he is taking up a squad place and he is taking up a place for one of the positions which should have been priority this summer. We now have kightly, pennant and at a push Walters who can play right wing. None of these are good enough for what we need in that position next season. Instead of going out and addressing one of the key positions which needed freshening up, we have re signed an ageing winger who always ends up letting his club down. He couldn't do it in the championship last year and that's exactly where he should be plying his trade this season.
A really poor decision.
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Post by exeterstokie on Jun 18, 2013 15:48:44 GMT
happy with that, just hope we can get him back to the form he was in 2 seasons ago, if so best winger at our club by a country mile
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Post by jw97scfc on Jun 18, 2013 15:49:48 GMT
It's a poor, poor decision on so many levels in my opinion. Firstly, this summer represented a great opportunity to clear out the deadwood and start with a clean slate in a number of positions. Putting, disciplinnary issues aside, we haven't seen a good Jermaine Pennant for a few years now. Whilst he didn't have many opportunities with us last season, he had plenty of chances to shine with Wolves in a lower league. They couldn't send him packing quick enough though as his performances were shit. Everything I have seen since Pulis was sacked points towards us trying to do things on the cheap now. Lesley Mark Hughes was a convenient appointment because he was cheap. Jermaine Pennant is our first 'signing' because he's cheap. I really hope this isn't the shape of things to come but it doesn't look promising at all. Regardless of the deal Pennant is on, it's a not a 'no lose' situation. Because he is taking up a squad place and he is taking up a place for one of the positions which should have been priority this summer. We now have kightly, pennant and at a push Walters who can play right wing. None of these are good enough for what we need in that position next season. Instead of going out and addressing one of the key positions which needed freshening up, we have re signed an ageing winger who always ends up letting his club down. He couldn't do it in the championship last year and that's exactly where he should be plying his trade this season. A really poor decision. Agreed 100%
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 18, 2013 15:51:03 GMT
It's a poor, poor decision on so many levels in my opinion. Putting, disciplinnary issues aside, we haven't seen a good Jermaine Pennant for a few years now. Whilst he didn't have many opportunities with us last season, he had plenty of chances to shine with Wolves in a lower league. They couldn't send him packing quick enough though as his performances were shit. A really poor decision. I seem to remember quite a few decent games from JP the season before last. In fact when I heard about his drink driving escapade, my first reaction was "sh*t he won't be playing on Saturday" - on that basis he should still have plenty to offer if he gets his head right.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Jun 18, 2013 15:52:31 GMT
It's a poor, poor decision on so many levels in my opinion. Firstly, this summer represented a great opportunity to clear out the deadwood and start with a clean slate in a number of positions. Putting, disciplinnary issues aside, we haven't seen a good Jermaine Pennant for a few years now. Whilst he didn't have many opportunities with us last season, he had plenty of chances to shine with Wolves in a lower league. They couldn't send him packing quick enough though as his performances were shit. Everything I have seen since Pulis was sacked points towards us trying to do things on the cheap now. Lesley Mark Hughes was a convenient appointment because he was cheap. Jermaine Pennant is our first 'signing' because he's cheap. I really hope this isn't the shape of things to come but it doesn't look promising at all. Regardless of the deal Pennant is on, it's a not a 'no lose' situation. Because he is taking up a squad place and he is taking up a place for one of the positions which should have been priority this summer. We now have kightly, pennant and at a push Walters who can play right wing. None of these are good enough for what we need in that position next season. Instead of going out and addressing one of the key positions which needed freshening up, we have re signed an ageing winger who always ends up letting his club down. He couldn't do it in the championship last year and that's exactly where he should be plying his trade this season. A really poor decision. I thought the wing WAS a key area we needed to address. As you say, we only have kightly and maybe walters. Surely he's a good signing providing we bring in another decent winger to compete for positions with him.
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Post by RichardTMP on Jun 18, 2013 15:54:16 GMT
Hopefully this is the start of an active summer.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2013 15:54:20 GMT
It's a more sensible deal than the one that brought Michael Owen to the club....and probably a damn sight cheaper too
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jun 18, 2013 15:57:12 GMT
It's a poor, poor decision on so many levels in my opinion. Firstly, this summer represented a great opportunity to clear out the deadwood and start with a clean slate in a number of positions. Putting, disciplinnary issues aside, we haven't seen a good Jermaine Pennant for a few years now. Whilst he didn't have many opportunities with us last season, he had plenty of chances to shine with Wolves in a lower league. They couldn't send him packing quick enough though as his performances were shit. Everything I have seen since Pulis was sacked points towards us trying to do things on the cheap now. Lesley Mark Hughes was a convenient appointment because he was cheap. Jermaine Pennant is our first 'signing' because he's cheap. I really hope this isn't the shape of things to come but it doesn't look promising at all. Regardless of the deal Pennant is on, it's a not a 'no lose' situation. Because he is taking up a squad place and he is taking up a place for one of the positions which should have been priority this summer. We now have kightly, pennant and at a push Walters who can play right wing. None of these are good enough for what we need in that position next season. Instead of going out and addressing one of the key positions which needed freshening up, we have re signed an ageing winger who always ends up letting his club down. He couldn't do it in the championship last year and that's exactly where he should be plying his trade this season. A really poor decision. I thought the wing WAS a key area we needed to address. As you say, we only have kightly and maybe walters. Surely he's a good signing providing we bring in another decent winger to compete for positions with him. Unless Kightly is sold then we aren't going to be signing a 3rd right winger are we?
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