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Post by cartman123 on May 29, 2013 12:57:48 GMT
Hit the nail right on the head there.
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Post by elsidibe on May 29, 2013 14:09:13 GMT
The assertion that "I-S-L-A-M spells jihad" tells us everything we need to know about the guy.
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Post by countofmontecristo on May 29, 2013 14:33:22 GMT
The assertion that "I-S-L-A-M spells jihad" tells us everything we need to know about the guy. Well there were a couple of blokes in Woolwich last week who agreed with him. |
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Post by elsidibe on May 29, 2013 14:41:01 GMT
Yep, just as there were a couple of blokes who recently sent invading armies into Iraq in the name of Christianity.
Just because some people hide behind a religion to shield their inadequacies or their real motives, it doesn't mean they're representative of all practitioners of that faith.
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Post by countofmontecristo on May 29, 2013 14:48:41 GMT
Yep, just as there were a couple of blokes who recently sent invading armies into Iraq in the name of Christianity. Just because some people hide behind a religion to shield their inadequacies or their real motives, it doesn't mean they're representative of all practitioners of that faith. Who declared that Iraq was invaded in the name of Christianity? Let me answer that for you - no one. You just made it up. Why? What's your agenda? |
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Post by cartman123 on May 29, 2013 15:10:49 GMT
Yep, just as there were a couple of blokes who recently sent invading armies into Iraq in the name of Christianity. Just because some people hide behind a religion to shield their inadequacies or their real motives, it doesn't mean they're representative of all practitioners of that faith.  The point is, when these Muslim extremists commit such atrocities, they are acting in ACCORDANCE to what the Quran teaches. You don't hear Muslims saying "Oh they took it out of context" because they know that is what the quran exactly teaches. If you don't believe me on that, just go over to somewhere like Saudi Arabia and look at the way it treats its people, particularly women. |
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Post by elsidibe on May 29, 2013 15:15:54 GMT
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Post by elsidibe on May 29, 2013 15:27:37 GMT
Yep, just as there were a couple of blokes who recently sent invading armies into Iraq in the name of Christianity. Just because some people hide behind a religion to shield their inadequacies or their real motives, it doesn't mean they're representative of all practitioners of that faith. The point is, when these Muslim extremists commit such atrocities, they are acting in ACCORDANCE to what the Quran teaches. You don't hear Muslims saying "Oh they took it out of context" because they know that is what the quran exactly teaches. If you don't believe me on that, just go over to somewhere like Saudi Arabia and look at the way it treats its people, particularly women. I don't deny that sharia states mistreat women, gay people, dissidents and all sorts of others. But then, so does almost any society that attempts to govern to the letter of a millennia-old text. Mormons, for example. It's also worth noting that not all of sharia law is based on the contents of the Koran. Extremist muslims are no worse than any other extremists, and they're not even remotely representative of non-extremist muslims. The problem arises when people of any religion start to confuse faith with reason. |
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Post by countofmontecristo on May 29, 2013 15:45:59 GMT
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Post by elsidibe on May 29, 2013 16:06:36 GMT
No I don't, because the vast majority of muslims already reject jihad, and being told to do something you're already doing is irritating and patronising. The statement implies that all Muslims are in some way responsible for, or supportive of, jihad – which plainly isn't the case.
Any right-minded people – including those of all faiths and denominations – will naturally reject appalling violence like that committed against Lee Rigby, and it seems unnecessary to single out any one group of people to "swear the oath", as it were.
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Post by countofmontecristo on May 29, 2013 16:25:39 GMT
No I don't, because the vast majority of muslims already reject jihad, and being told to do something you're already doing is irritating and patronising. The statement implies that all Muslims are in some way responsible for, or supportive of, jihad – which plainly isn't the case. Any right-minded people – including those of all faiths and denominations – will naturally reject appalling violence like that committed against Lee Rigby, and it seems unnecessary to single out any one group of people to "swear the oath", as it were.[/b] But there's only one group doing it isn't there? The same group who kept a low profile following 7/7 with no 'Muslim marches against terrorism' to show their opposition to the bombings but managed to organize three weeks of protests in no time to show their disgust at a few cartoons. Actions speak louder than words! |
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Post by cartman123 on May 29, 2013 16:37:24 GMT
Why is it when there's any terrorism it's always Muslims???
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Post by capto on May 29, 2013 16:42:50 GMT
Why is it when there's any terrorism it's always Muslims??? Not really sure about that ? I can remember all the troubles in N Ireland - depending on what side of the fence, they were terrorists or freedom fighters Guess that's the same now, either terrorists or fighting for Islam? |
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Post by heavysoul on May 29, 2013 17:16:06 GMT
Islam bashing again. The guy giving the speech has no idea.
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Post by elsidibe on May 29, 2013 17:30:07 GMT
No I don't, because the vast majority of muslims already reject jihad, and being told to do something you're already doing is irritating and patronising. The statement implies that all Muslims are in some way responsible for, or supportive of, jihad – which plainly isn't the case. Any right-minded people – including those of all faiths and denominations – will naturally reject appalling violence like that committed against Lee Rigby, and it seems unnecessary to single out any one group of people to "swear the oath", as it were.[/b] But there's only one group doing it isn't there? The same group who kept a low profile following 7/7 with no 'Muslim marches against terrorism' to show their opposition to the bombings but managed to organize three weeks of protests in no time to show their disgust at a few cartoons. Actions speak louder than words! [/quote] The Vatican never apologised on behalf of the IRA or organised marches against them. Presumably that means all catholics – from the Philippines to Chile and everywhere in between – are terrorists. |
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Post by elsidibe on May 29, 2013 17:54:49 GMT
Why is it when there's any terrorism it's always Muslims??? Maybe they're more passionate. |
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Post by DansViews on May 29, 2013 18:48:56 GMT
Excellent video
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Post by jonah77 on May 29, 2013 18:49:37 GMT
[/b] But there's only one group doing it isn't there? The same group who kept a low profile following 7/7 with no 'Muslim marches against terrorism' to show their opposition to the bombings but managed to organize three weeks of protests in no time to show their disgust at a few cartoons. Actions speak louder than words! [/quote] The Vatican never apologised on behalf of the IRA or organised marches against them. Presumably that means all catholics – from the Philippines to Chile and everywhere in between – are terrorists.[/quote] The IRAs position was political not religious so it had nothing to do with the Vatican. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 29, 2013 19:30:01 GMT
Yep, just as there were a couple of blokes who recently sent invading armies into Iraq in the name of Christianity. Just because some people hide behind a religion to shield their inadequacies or their real motives, it doesn't mean they're representative of all practitioners of that faith. Who declared that Iraq was invaded in the name of Christianity? Let me answer that for you - no one. You just made it up. Why? What's your agenda? George W Bush did..he said god made him do it. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 29, 2013 19:31:48 GMT
Why is it when there's any terrorism it's always Muslims??? Not sure the numerous shootings in American schools and/or the fire bombing of abortion clinics were carried out by Muslims. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 19:55:03 GMT
Who declared that Iraq was invaded in the name of Christianity? Let me answer that for you - no one. You just made it up. Why? What's your agenda? George W Bush did..he said god made him do it. I was always uncertain of how genuine that story was , given that it came from Palestinian politician, however it is unbelievable if it were true that an American President could utter such crass a stupid remarks and equally unbelievable that the British Prime Minister of the day should kneel in prayer at his side seeking approval from God to go to war |
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Post by jonah77 on May 29, 2013 20:12:25 GMT
Surely it's not that hard to keep ones religion seperate from ones politics?Especially if you're a politician.
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Post by countofmontecristo on May 29, 2013 20:23:56 GMT
Who declared that Iraq was invaded in the name of Christianity? Let me answer that for you - no one. You just made it up. Why? What's your agenda? . Try reading through the thread Huddy - already answered. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 20:24:12 GMT
Surely it's not that hard to keep ones religion seperate from ones politics?Especially if you're a politician. It depends upon who the Politician is |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 29, 2013 20:34:25 GMT
George W Bush did..he said god made him do it. Try reading through the thread Huddy - already answered. And ignored... |
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Post by countofmontecristo on May 29, 2013 20:39:15 GMT
Try reading through the thread Huddy - already answered. And ignored... ......spoke like a true fascist. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 29, 2013 20:50:28 GMT
......spoke like a true fascist. Well from looking at your posting record ...oh never mind. |
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Post by greyman on May 29, 2013 20:55:12 GMT
You could try reading up about the role of the Catholic Church in bringing the Nazis to power the Church's support for Hitler and the Holocaust. Or to bring it closer to home, the role of the Church in covering up for paedophiles. Or how about the role of Catholic priests within the IRA.
What does that tell you about all Christians?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 20:57:42 GMT
Yep, just as there were a couple of blokes who recently sent invading armies into Iraq in the name of Christianity. Just because some people hide behind a religion to shield their inadequacies or their real motives, it doesn't mean they're representative of all practitioners of that faith. The point is, when these Muslim extremists commit such atrocities, they are acting in ACCORDANCE to what the Quran teaches. You don't hear Muslims saying "Oh they took it out of context" because they know that is what the quran exactly teaches. If you don't believe me on that, just go over to somewhere like Saudi Arabia and look at the way it treats its people, particularly women. Cartman - you are a brain dead moron. Before you start a thread like this, why don't you do a minute of research, and find out exactly what it is that you are talking about. It's twats like you that cause problems. |
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Post by cartman123 on May 29, 2013 21:04:55 GMT
The point is, when these Muslim extremists commit such atrocities, they are acting in ACCORDANCE to what the Quran teaches. You don't hear Muslims saying "Oh they took it out of context" because they know that is what the quran exactly teaches. If you don't believe me on that, just go over to somewhere like Saudi Arabia and look at the way it treats its people, particularly women. Cartman - you are a brain dead moron. Before you start a thread like this, why don't you do a minute of research, and find out exactly what it is that you are talking about. It's twats like you that cause problems. I've done enough research on Islam to know it's a great evil in this world that needs to be washed down the drain. What are you saying here? I'm the reason extremists kill innocent people? Hmmm. Maybe it's you that needs to do some research. |
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