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Post by jonah77 on May 29, 2013 21:05:16 GMT
You could try reading up about the role of the Catholic Church in bringing the Nazis to power the Church's support for Hitler and the Holocaust. Or to bring it closer to home, the role of the Church in covering up for paedophiles. Or how about the role of Catholic priests within the IRA. What does that tell you about all Christians? I think it says a lot more about the Catholic clergy than Christians.
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Post by countofmontecristo on May 29, 2013 21:16:09 GMT
......spoke like a true fascist. Well from looking at your posting record ...oh never mind. Funny how you don't think it's fascism when you do it. Don't agree with his politics...... deny him employment. Can't win the argument........shut down the debate.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 29, 2013 21:21:42 GMT
Well from looking at your posting record ...oh never mind. Funny how you don't think it's fascism when you do it. Don't agree with his politics...... deny him employment. Can't win the argument........shut down the debate. Run off and take your BNP/EDL denial shite somewhere else eh?
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Post by greyman on May 29, 2013 21:26:46 GMT
You could try reading up about the role of the Catholic Church in bringing the Nazis to power the Church's support for Hitler and the Holocaust. Or to bring it closer to home, the role of the Church in covering up for paedophiles. Or how about the role of Catholic priests within the IRA. What does that tell you about all Christians? I think it says a lot more about the Catholic clergy than Christians. I think it proves that you can associate nutjobs and extremists with any religion and any time. Doesn't mean anything beyond that and I don't see the EDL calling for the burning down of churches
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Post by countofmontecristo on May 29, 2013 21:29:19 GMT
Funny how you don't think it's fascism when you do it. Don't agree with his politics...... deny him employment. Can't win the argument........shut down the debate. Run off and take your BNP/EDL denial shite somewhere else eh? ......... and again........losing the argument....shut down the debate. You really are pathetic.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 29, 2013 21:34:57 GMT
Run off and take your BNP/EDL denial shite somewhere else eh? ......... and again........losing the argument....shut down the debate. You really are pathetic. Not as pathetic as someone using the death of a soldier at the hands of a nutter to try and stir up racial and religious hate though. Happy to read your comments..go for it sunshine.
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Post by countofmontecristo on May 29, 2013 21:40:44 GMT
......... and again........losing the argument....shut down the debate. You really are pathetic. Not as pathetic as someone using the death of a soldier at the hands of a nutter to try and stir up racial and religious hate though. Happy to read your comments..go for it sunshine. So talking about something that happened is stirring up hatred is it. I know that you would naturally prefer 'censorship' but I prefer openness. Sorry if this doesn't sit well with your 'values'.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 29, 2013 21:43:56 GMT
Not as pathetic as someone using the death of a soldier at the hands of a nutter to try and stir up racial and religious hate though. Happy to read your comments..go for it sunshine. So talking about something that happened is stirring up hatred is it. I know that you would naturally prefer 'censorship' but I prefer openness. Sorry if this doesn't sit well with your 'values'. Oh dear... I am "talking about it" you fool. Waiting for you to begin this "debate" that you so desperately seek...
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 29, 2013 21:56:27 GMT
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Post by countofmontecristo on May 29, 2013 22:01:33 GMT
....well try reading the whole thread and links - then give us your input.
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Post by countofmontecristo on May 29, 2013 22:03:51 GMT
I agree that is reality - so is a soldier being mutilated in broad daylight unfortunately.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 29, 2013 22:09:35 GMT
I agree that is reality - so is a soldier being mutilated in broad daylight unfortunately. And your point is ?
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Post by countofmontecristo on May 29, 2013 22:16:23 GMT
Both are reality - you need to deal with both events - not just the nice story.
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Post by pittshillplotter on May 29, 2013 22:16:37 GMT
No fair minded person is suggesting that all Muslims are bad , or that their religion is evil , but given the current tensions it is better to draw a line under this particular abhorrent murder.
Perhaps , just take time to reflect on this one individual incident and then next week when the latest sex scandal hits the broadsheets involving scores of Muslims targeting vulnerable young white girls make your feelings known.
No fair minded person can then say it is a 'one off' incident or 'nutter' who is to blame.
PP.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 29, 2013 22:18:29 GMT
No fair minded person is suggesting that all Muslims are bad , or that their religion is evil , but given the current tensions it is better to draw a line under this particular abhorrent murder. Perhaps , just take time to reflect on this one individual incident and then next week when the latest sex scandal hits the broadsheets involving scores of Muslims targeting vulnerable young white girls make your feelings known. No fair minded person can then say it is a 'one off' incident or 'nutter' who is to blame. PP. Are You anti BBC too then?
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Post by pittshillplotter on May 29, 2013 22:26:13 GMT
I am anti nothing .
I look at trends , stats , patterns and then pass comment. I can't comment on the religious aspects as I have not studied them.
I watch those COPS programs on the television quite regularly , and what I can say is that the vast majority of those arrested are either black or asian. Perhaps the makers are racists or we have a serious problem in this country that is getting worse.
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Post by Tubes on May 29, 2013 23:08:45 GMT
I am anti nothing . I watch those COPS programs on the television quite regularly , and what I can say is that the vast majority of those arrested are either black or asian. Perhaps the makers are racists or we have a serious problem in this country that is getting worse. there is definitely a positive correlation between ethnicity and propensity to commit crime. However, correlation does not imply causality. Once you control for socioeconomic class and schooling, race is an unreliable indicator of likelihood to commit crime.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 23:16:21 GMT
I am anti nothing . I watch those COPS programs on the television quite regularly , and what I can say is that the vast majority of those arrested are either black or asian. Perhaps the makers are racists or we have a serious problem in this country that is getting worse. there is definitely a positive correlation between ethnicity and propensity to commit crime. However, correlation does not imply causality. Once you control for socioeconomic class and schooling, race is an unreliable indicator of likelihood to commit crime. An interesting observation ...but not one that is really relevant to the point in question
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Post by pittshillplotter on May 29, 2013 23:20:33 GMT
I am anti nothing . I watch those COPS programs on the television quite regularly , and what I can say is that the vast majority of those arrested are either black or asian. Perhaps the makers are racists or we have a serious problem in this country that is getting worse. there is definitely a positive correlation between ethnicity and propensity to commit crime. However, correlation does not imply causality. Once you control for socioeconomic class and schooling, race is an unreliable indicator of likelihood to commit crime. ....In other words , an 'imported' problem that will not go away and is directly proportional to those we allow in . Given the current rate of unemployment and the fact that this year under this coalition government we allowed a further 500,000 more immigrants into this country the problem will inevitably get worse. I'm not just referring to the Asian sector either , as there will be a massive influx from eastern europe too. A very sad & ridiculous state of affairs made infinitely worse by the fact that many fail to see the implications of this not just in the crime stats , but on the UK'S infrastructure ie housing , benefits , health , jobs market. This situation will inevitably have a very detrimental effect on the UK economy in general.
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Post by elsidibe on May 30, 2013 8:16:10 GMT
[/b]The Vatican never apologised on behalf of the IRA or organised marches against them. Presumably that means all catholics – from the Philippines to Chile and everywhere in between – are terrorists.[/quote] The IRAs position was political not religious so it had nothing to do with the Vatican.[/quote] Glad we're agreed then. The position of extremists doesn't represent the beliefs or values of the mainstream – whether Islam or Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, whatever – and is therefore not an indicator of anything other than the fact that there are some awfully sick people in the world. Which has been the case since long before Islam even existed.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 30, 2013 8:23:55 GMT
Both are reality - you need to deal with both events - not just the nice story. I'd like to know what your point is, is that too difficult for you? I'm pointing out that the majority of muslims are peaceful ordinary people and that dangerous people exist regardless of race or religion. Again, what point are you trying to make?
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Post by elsidibe on May 30, 2013 8:32:55 GMT
I am anti nothing . I look at trends , stats , patterns and then pass comment. I can't comment on the religious aspects as I have not studied them. I watch those COPS programs on the television quite regularly , and what I can say is that the vast majority of those arrested are either black or asian. Perhaps the makers are racists or we have a serious problem in this country that is getting worse. You're right, those cop shows are a problem and they're getting worse. On a serious note, if we're using "real crime" shows to determine the state of the world, then we urgently need to do something about the uncontrolled slew of white serial killers.
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Post by maninasuitcase on May 30, 2013 11:51:59 GMT
If you want to see the reality of Islam in Britain look at pages 22 and 23 of the Mail.
If that doesn't open your eyes then nothing will Christianity, Catholicism and the like will be obsolete in 20 years.
We have opened the can of worms and they have bred and preached there way to the top of the food chain in this country.
It is death by stealth to the indigenous populous of the UK.
We only have ourselves to blame though.
RIP Great Britain.
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Post by countofmontecristo on May 30, 2013 11:59:09 GMT
Both are reality - you need to deal with both events - not just the nice story. I'd like to know what your point is, is that too difficult for you? I'm pointing out that the majority of muslims are peaceful ordinary people and that dangerous people exist regardless of race or religion. Again, what point are you trying to make? Huddy........ the thread started due to the events in Woolwich. It was motivated by religion (according to the perpetrators) - why do you seek to deny what has already been admitted? The point is the title of the thread (sorry - I assumed you'd realized how the board worked by now). I agree with the assertion that Muslims must be more vociferous in denouncing jihad. Hope this helps.
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Post by greyman on May 30, 2013 12:31:04 GMT
Muslim is as evil as any other religion. Terrible things get done in its name, but for most people who believe, it's a positive thing for them personally.
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Post by cartman123 on May 30, 2013 12:40:47 GMT
There's nothing positive about Islam. ARGHHHH!!! Just look at the way it treats its people. It's an EVIL religion. And for people defending it, just leave. Just leave this country. We don't need people like you here.
The Quran says PLAINLY to KILL all INFIDELS who REJECT ALLAH. You can't take that out context. The quran is littered with violence throughout. This so called prophet Mohammed even RAPED a 9 year old girl; which is why today you have numerous Muslim men abusing little girls.
Flush Islam down the drain.
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Post by cartman123 on May 30, 2013 12:42:24 GMT
Both are reality - you need to deal with both events - not just the nice story. I'd like to know what your point is, is that too difficult for you? I'm pointing out that the majority of muslims are peaceful ordinary people and that dangerous people exist regardless of race or religion. Again, what point are you trying to make? Have you tried walking through Cobridge late at night pal?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 30, 2013 14:30:13 GMT
I'd like to know what your point is, is that too difficult for you? I'm pointing out that the majority of muslims are peaceful ordinary people and that dangerous people exist regardless of race or religion. Again, what point are you trying to make? Have you tried walking through Cobridge late at night pal? Yes regularly over many years. You?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 30, 2013 14:32:40 GMT
I'd like to know what your point is, is that too difficult for you? I'm pointing out that the majority of muslims are peaceful ordinary people and that dangerous people exist regardless of race or religion. Again, what point are you trying to make? Huddy........ the thread started due to the events in Woolwich. It was motivated by religion (according to the perpetrators) - why do you seek to deny what has already been admitted? The point is the title of the thread (sorry - I assumed you'd realized how the board worked by now). I agree with the assertion that Muslims must be more vociferous in denouncing jihad. Hope this helps. It was perpetrated by radical extremists who happen to be muslim. I haven't denied anything. I've found you out for the nasty little racist that you are. Case closed.
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Post by followyoudown on May 30, 2013 14:52:30 GMT
There's nothing positive about Islam. ARGHHHH!!! Just look at the way it treats its people. It's an EVIL religion. And for people defending it, just leave. Just leave this country. We don't need people like you here. The Quran says PLAINLY to KILL all INFIDELS who REJECT ALLAH. You can't take that out context. The quran is littered with violence throughout. This so called prophet Mohammed even RAPED a 9 year old girl; which is why today you have numerous Muslim men abusing little girls. Flush Islam down the drain. Last time I checked there seems to be plenty of non dead infidels in the UK so I have to conclude that most muslims don't take it literally. The bible has plenty of violence in there too an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth hmmm that's sounds familar sure I heard that on the TV recently......
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