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Post by heavysoul on Jun 2, 2013 16:07:06 GMT
There's nothing positive about Islam. ARGHHHH!!! Just look at the way it treats its people. It's an EVIL religion. And for people defending it, just leave. Just leave this country. We don't need people like you here. The Quran says PLAINLY to KILL all INFIDELS who REJECT ALLAH. You can't take that out context. The quran is littered with violence throughout. This so called prophet Mohammed even RAPED a 9 year old girl; which is why today you have numerous Muslim men abusing little girls. Flush Islam down the drain. Do some proper research before spouting your simple minded shit! Where does it say that the Prophet raped a young girl. If you are referring to asian gangs abusing vulnerable girls, this is terrible but i`m sure that there are white Christians who are doing the same? how many Christian priests have raped young girls and boys i suppose you could class this as being the worlds biggest Paedo ring and the church denying it has happended. Dont blame Muslims for all the vile things in this world!
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 2, 2013 16:17:55 GMT
Well some western governments are set to arm the opposition in Syria , as the so call democratic Russians are sending all the arms Assads regime needs to destroy his citizens . It's mostly about strategic interests in the Middle East . The Africans war lords can act with impunity in chad, Rwanda , sierra Leon , Eritrea , and so on Been for a quick stroll H? Under orders to take the boys to the park for minimum 2 hours playtime . They went to sleep in the pushchair so went to the pub instead
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Post by salopstick on Jun 2, 2013 16:33:35 GMT
Well some western governments are set to arm the opposition in Syria , as the so call democratic Russians are sending all the arms Assads regime needs to destroy his citizens . It's mostly about strategic interests in the Middle East . The Africans war lords can act with impunity in chad, Rwanda , sierra Leon , Eritrea , and so on To be fair harry we have Intervened in Libya, Angola, Sierra Leone and Rwanda amongst others
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 2, 2013 16:41:48 GMT
Well some western governments are set to arm the opposition in Syria , as the so call democratic Russians are sending all the arms Assads regime needs to destroy his citizens . It's mostly about strategic interests in the Middle East . The Africans war lords can act with impunity in chad, Rwanda , sierra Leon , Eritrea , and so on To be fair harry we have Intervened in Libya, Angola, Sierra Leone and Rwanda amongst others After watching the genocide happen and wringing our hands for a,few months with all due respect AL
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Post by salopstick on Jun 2, 2013 17:09:52 GMT
Yep but with e erything you have to try other dimpolamcy and sanction first.rarely do we jump straight in as there are always other implications.
Foreign affairs are a very complex and messy business
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 17:13:22 GMT
Incidentally, murder, genocide and suppression is something the British have been incredibly good at too. Murder and genocide by the British....? I suggest you pay more attention to the murder being carried out against British subjects...your fellow country men and women....it's only because you have the liberty of living in a free British society...that you are able to make such statements ......where does your loyalty lie ? With your own decent countrymen or terrorist extremists hellbent on reaping death and destruction upon free society ? You have a very odd set of ideals
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 17:18:04 GMT
To be fair harry we have Intervened in Libya, Angola, Sierra Leone and Rwanda amongst others After watching the genocide happen and wringing our hands for a,few months with all due respect AL Jumping straight in at the drop of a hat though is not the answer Harry......facts have to be gathered and assessed before being acted upon ....it's not as simple as is imagined to intervene and put things to right .....it takes time
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 17:18:49 GMT
Been for a quick stroll H? Under orders to take the boys to the park for minimum 2 hours playtime . They went to sleep in the pushchair so went to the pub instead A good idea mate !
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 17:21:24 GMT
There should never be room for being so personal on these threads .......labelling people as liars , tw*ts, racists and other equally unpleasant names is not the right way to go about things ....abuse on a personal level is distasteful and unnecessary . It's fun tho Well it depends on whom you are abusing I suppose ! It could be fun
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 2, 2013 17:22:54 GMT
After watching the genocide happen and wringing our hands for a,few months with all due respect AL Jumping straight in at the drop of a hat though is not the answer Harry......facts have to be gathered and assessed before being acted upon ....it's not as simple as is imagined to intervene and put things to right .....it takes time The genocide in Rwanda went on for a year bish , I understand what you say but the UN are next to useless as was proved in Kosovo
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 17:26:36 GMT
Jumping straight in at the drop of a hat though is not the answer Harry......facts have to be gathered and assessed before being acted upon ....it's not as simple as is imagined to intervene and put things to right .....it takes time The genocide in Rwanda went on for a year bish , I understand what you say but the UN are next to useless as was proved in Kosovo Well you know as well as I do mate that the UN is a toothless Tiger and always has been
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 2, 2013 17:29:08 GMT
The genocide in Rwanda went on for a year bish , I understand what you say but the UN are next to useless as was proved in Kosovo Well you know as well as I do mate that the UN is a toothless Tiger and always has been Tiger , you jest bish . The baby blue berries sums them up
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 17:30:28 GMT
Well you know as well as I do mate that the UN is a toothless Tiger and always has been Tiger , you jest bish . The baby blue berries sums them up Fair comment mate
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Post by cartman123 on Jun 2, 2013 20:03:17 GMT
There's nothing positive about Islam. ARGHHHH!!! Just look at the way it treats its people. It's an EVIL religion. And for people defending it, just leave. Just leave this country. We don't need people like you here. The Quran says PLAINLY to KILL all INFIDELS who REJECT ALLAH. You can't take that out context. The quran is littered with violence throughout. This so called prophet Mohammed even RAPED a 9 year old girl; which is why today you have numerous Muslim men abusing little girls. Flush Islam down the drain. Do some proper research before spouting your simple minded shit! Where does it say that the Prophet raped a young girl. If you are referring to asian gangs abusing vulnerable girls, this is terrible but i`m sure that there are white Christians who are doing the same? how many Christian priests have raped young girls and boys i suppose you could class this as being the worlds biggest Paedo ring and the church denying it has happended. Dont blame Muslims for all the vile things in this world! It's in the Quran that Mohammed married a 9 year old girl and had sex with her, so Muslim men today think it's acceptable to marry and RAPE (and it is rape because a child cannot consent) little girls. As for your 'Christian' remark, I'm not catholic, so why do you keep throwing that into my face. What the catholic priests do is on their conscience, not mine. And finally, I never blamed muslims for all the evil things that happen. I'm just saying Islam is responsible for a great number of deaths.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 2, 2013 21:05:11 GMT
There's nothing positive about Islam. ARGHHHH!!! Just look at the way it treats its people. It's an EVIL religion. And for people defending it, just leave. Just leave this country. We don't need people like you here. The Quran says PLAINLY to KILL all INFIDELS who REJECT ALLAH. You can't take that out context. The quran is littered with violence throughout. This so called prophet Mohammed even RAPED a 9 year old girl; which is why today you have numerous Muslim men abusing little girls. Flush Islam down the drain. Do some proper research before spouting your simple minded shit! Where does it say that the Prophet raped a young girl. If you are referring to asian gangs abusing vulnerable girls, this is terrible but i`m sure that there are white Christians who are doing the same? how many Christian priests have raped young girls and boys i suppose you could class this as being the worlds biggest Paedo ring and the church denying it has happended. Dont blame Muslims for all the vile things in this world! Good effort mate but you're wasting your time with this one.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 2, 2013 21:10:13 GMT
Incidentally, murder, genocide and suppression is something the British have been incredibly good at too. Murder and genocide by the British....? I suggest you pay more attention to the murder being carried out against British subjects...your fellow country men and women....it's only because you have the liberty of living in a free British society...that you are able to make such statements ......where does your loyalty lie ? With your own decent countrymen or terrorist extremists hellbent on reaping death and destruction upon free society ? You have a very odd set of ideals We have a long history of murder and genocide during the building of the British Empire are you arguing with that truth? I'd also be interested in your definition of "free" please? Do you consider yourself a "free" man do you?
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Post by salopstick on Jun 2, 2013 21:18:15 GMT
How the hell can we be responsible for imperial conflicts, murder and genocide. We now try to put that right
You preach too much anti British rhetoric, criticising the countries colonial past ....always highlighting the worse parts of it and never mentioning the countless good things that Britain has contributed to the world
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 21:26:56 GMT
Murder and genocide by the British....? I suggest you pay more attention to the murder being carried out against British subjects...your fellow country men and women....it's only because you have the liberty of living in a free British society...that you are able to make such statements ......where does your loyalty lie ? With your own decent countrymen or terrorist extremists hellbent on reaping death and destruction upon free society ? You have a very odd set of ideals We have a long history of murder and genocide during the building of the British Empire are you arguing with that truth? I'd also be interested in your definition of "free" please? Do you consider yourself a "free" man do you? I am aware of the history of the British Empire .....I wasnt't around when it was being built ....therefore I am not responsible for any wrong doing during that period .....history is history .....there is nothing to be gained by constantly harping back to any misdemeanours that occured then , what is more relevant are the events that are taking place in the world today ......my definition of free is being able to choose to say and do anything within reason within what most people would consider to be a civilised society ....and compared to the constraints of other people's lives in religiously controlled communities .....yes I consider myself to be a free man for what it's worth ....and I am happy with my lot
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Post by salopstick on Jun 2, 2013 21:29:45 GMT
Thing is Bish I havnt seen him put anything to debate the problems etc
Just his usual David Brent bullshit
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 21:43:06 GMT
Thing is Bish I havnt seen him put anything to debate the problems etc Just his usual David Brent bullshit Neither have I ......it's easy to point out the rights and wrongs ....mainly the wrongs , whilst not having a clear understanding of how we can instigate a change to whats going on ....not easy but there is clearly a problem with these radical extremists that people like him have to face up to and realise that it's not just a few " nutters" as he likes to describe them , but a a large group within Islam that is operating with an agenda aimed at causing mayhem within western societies , with a clear aim in sight of eradicating Christians in the west and establishing a powerful Muslim power base here......he may be happy with that but most normal people are not.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Jun 3, 2013 1:28:34 GMT
The muslims in Turkey have had enough of the crazy extremist muslims trying to control them and are protesting
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2013 1:42:19 GMT
The muslims in Turkey have had enough of the crazy extremist muslims trying to control them and are protesting I think you may find that this type of thing may well be the norm in the future
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Post by lastoftheldk on Jun 3, 2013 1:45:51 GMT
thats whats needed
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2013 1:47:37 GMT
I can't argue with that....no doubt some will though
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Post by salopstick on Jun 4, 2013 8:34:00 GMT
We have a long history of murder and genocide during the building of the British Empire are you arguing with that truth? I'd also be interested in your definition of "free" please? Do you consider yourself a "free" man do you? I am aware of the history of the British Empire .....I wasnt't around when it was being built ....therefore I am not responsible for any wrong doing during that period .....history is history .....there is nothing to be gained by constantly harping back to any misdemeanours that occured then , what is more relevant are the events that are taking place in the world today ......my definition of free is being able to choose to say and do anything within reason within what most people would consider to be a civilised society ....and compared to the constraints of other people's lives in religiously controlled communities .....yes I consider myself to be a free man for what it's worth ....and I am happy with my lot we could offer huddy up as a sacrifice to put right all the wrongs
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2013 9:16:30 GMT
I hate it when you go all "British " like that Al ......you come across as a bit of a twat ....you know you are better than that !
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Post by salopstick on Jun 4, 2013 9:29:19 GMT
I hate it when you go all "British " like that Al ......you come across as a bit of a twat ....you know you are better than that ! :-)
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