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Post by spitthedog on Jan 29, 2013 23:13:32 GMT
Trying to accommodate him limits our options
His lack of ability limits our performances.
Dire again tonight He has had 1 decent game this season, that is just not good enough
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 29, 2013 23:45:43 GMT
He was fucking abysmal tonight. Absolutely terrible. He normally is.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 29, 2013 23:46:26 GMT
Dog. Shit. That's all.
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Post by stokiegeorge1 on Jan 29, 2013 23:47:02 GMT
Walters piss off you pile of shit. I'd prefer Carlo Nash in the hole instead of you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 23:50:40 GMT
Scape goat.. He did his job.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jan 29, 2013 23:57:52 GMT
Tired tonight should have made way for Jerome only one man knows why he didn't
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jan 29, 2013 23:59:15 GMT
It isn't Walters fault he's crap. He does the best he can with his very limited ability.
The blame lies fairly and squarely with Pulis for believing he's a Premier League player and then actually playing him
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Post by stokiehereandnow on Jan 30, 2013 0:02:50 GMT
At least walters works hard and tries his best. Think we should focus more on players who aint trying there best guys
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 0:03:46 GMT
Jon was fine for 48 mins of the game, but was poor for the rest but so were the rest of players.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 30, 2013 0:17:26 GMT
It isn't Walters fault he's crap. He does the best he can with his very limited ability. The blame lies fairly and squarely with Pulis for believing he's a Premier League player and then actually playing him Of course its not his fault. He's hardly going to turn round to the manager and say 'Oh excuse me is it ok if I don't play tonight, I'm obviously not good enough for this level' Truth he is, he's the luckiest man on the planet to be earning the kind of money he is for the quality (not quantity) of work he produces. I'm fed up of hearing how hard he works. I know lots of people who work just as hard and struggle to bring home 20 grand a year, never mind 20 grand a week. My problem is with the favouritism shown towards him. It's bordering on the perverse.
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Post by swampySCFC on Jan 30, 2013 0:25:10 GMT
When we play shit its always Jons fault yet when NZonzi is wank his name gets sung from the rafters. tonight wasnt about Walters playing poor -some of our favourites need to hold their hands up?
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 30, 2013 0:48:48 GMT
When we play shit its always Jons fault yet when NZonzi is wank his name gets sung from the rafters. tonight wasnt about Walters playing poor -some of our favourites need to hold their hands up? Its not about tonight Its about consistently woeful performances. 100% perspiration 0% Inspiration only goes so far at this level. Nzonzi has not been consistently poor Its all about players who consistently hold back the team from progressing (manager's fault, not players)
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Post by pittshillplotter on Jan 30, 2013 0:54:02 GMT
Walters is very poor...and very slow.
If you Ignore all his headless chicken workload....Then he's about the shitiest striker in the Premiership.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 30, 2013 0:55:11 GMT
At least walters works hard and tries his best. Think we should focus more on players who aint trying there best guys When we play shit its always Jons fault yet when NZonzi is wank his name gets sung from the rafters. tonight wasnt about Walters playing poor -some of our favourites need to hold their hands up? Your both right. Yep, Nzonzi was wank tonite, not walters tonite. Nzonzi had adam to pass to who attacked with ethers for me nzonzi's lacking focus and not trying to attack and be a part of the build up is the #1 problem he doesn't send em in or cross ever or attack. He doesn't run past or link up with whelan. ALL he does is hold up "lift his head" and pass to feet all game, never contributes goals and never slide tackles... Yet he is the saviour... my ass. Get your little frenchy model crushes when he's on do ya? He needs to score. will he score this year? I'd bet against it. Heck even shawcross and whitehead have a goal from feet this year let alone give all. ???
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 30, 2013 0:55:52 GMT
Walters is very poor...and very slow. If you Ignore all his headless chicken workload....Then he's about the shitiest striker in the Premiership. As I posted in another thread, 18 goals in 98 appearances. That's a pretty damning statistic.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 30, 2013 0:56:40 GMT
Even a headless Chicken has it's uses. You can eat the fecking thing.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 30, 2013 1:01:02 GMT
Walters is very poor...and very slow. If you Ignore all his headless chicken workload....Then he's about the shitiest striker in the Premiership. As I posted in another thread, 18 goals in 98 appearances. That's a pretty damning statistic. how many goals does nzonzi have? ??? hahaha rest my case rather have a man give all then one mope about then shake his head and look disinterested on the bench when he did Fuck all in the game except get that 100% pass rating to the full backs and his midfield componets. Did he have a shot on goal? did he run at anyone? did he slide tackle or get a yellow from trying? no we was F'n a liability gave them their first goal chance from poor marking then jogged the last 25 minutes until he was subbed with a poor choice of replacement bemoans the fact he was utter shit tonite and until he starts contributing in attack he is no use to Stoke I'd rather have delap back imo atleast he attacked and gave us that long throw which is more assist's than nzonzi will ever get if he keeps playing in the midfield circle 100% of the game.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 30, 2013 1:07:42 GMT
As I posted in another thread, 18 goals in 98 appearances. That's a pretty damning statistic. how many goals does nzonzi have? ??? hahaha rest my case rather have a man give all then one mope about then shake his head and look disinterested on the bench when he did Fuck all in the game except get that 100% pass rating to the full backs and his midfield componets. Did he have a shot on goal? did he run at anyone? did he slide tackle or get a yellow from trying? no we was F'n a liability gave up there first goal from poor marking then jogged the last 25 minutes until he was subbed a poor choice of replacement bemoans the fact he was utter shit tonite and until he starts contributing in attack he is no use rather have delap back imo he attacked. How many goals does N'Zonzi have? None, but he's being played as a defensive midfielder who's not allowed to break forward so he's not going to be finding the net on a regular basis is he?. Whereas the other is a striker, who is you know, supposed to score goals, not sliding around at the other end of the pitch getting booked and whatnot. But still, it's not as if they're told to play this way or anything.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 30, 2013 1:13:29 GMT
how many goals does nzonzi have? ??? hahaha rest my case rather have a man give all then one mope about then shake his head and look disinterested on the bench when he did Fuck all in the game except get that 100% pass rating to the full backs and his midfield componets. Did he have a shot on goal? did he run at anyone? did he slide tackle or get a yellow from trying? no we was F'n a liability gave up there first goal from poor marking then jogged the last 25 minutes until he was subbed a poor choice of replacement bemoans the fact he was utter shit tonite and until he starts contributing in attack he is no use rather have delap back imo he attacked. How many goals does N'Zonzi have? None, but he's being played as a defensive midfielder who's not allowed to break forward so he's not going to be finding the net on a regular basis is he?. Whereas the other is a striker, who is you know, supposed to score goals, not sliding around at the other end of the pitch getting booked and whatnot. But still, it's not as if they're told to play this way or anything. What your off... nzonzi wasn't a defensive midfielder tonite he was alongside whelan and adam did you watch the game or did you confuse his lack of interest and slow pace tonite for him being a fullback? We were in a 2 5 3 with nzonzi behind walters and crouch in the middle as a CAM almost... Watch the game again mate, watch adam run all over to nzonzi take the ball then run at the wigan backs. Nzonzi acted like a fullback. Nzonzi was in an attacking position but doesn't attack. Bring in shea he runs at defense's.
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Post by pittshillplotter on Jan 30, 2013 1:21:11 GMT
I'm sick and tired of watching Walters chase a ball 20 yards away and come second by a good 5 yards.
He might as well not have bothered. That's what Pulis doesn't see....He likes that kind of thing....''Arrrd work''.
Pointless ....bloody pointless.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jan 30, 2013 7:39:07 GMT
Here we go, the obligatory "Fucking Walters" thread every time Stoke are wank. There were AT LEAST half a dozen players to have a moan about last night but we all know who'll be getting the bulk of it..
Fucking pathetic.
The OP says Walters has played ONE good game this season! That just typifies the ridiculous attitude some have to this player. We have had MUCH worse players than Walters this season and some have been wank for almost two seasons but don't let that stop you.
I'll try hard to make this my last post on Walters since it's become fucking pathetic. I'm pissed off with Stoke these past few weeks but I'm even more pissed off with this kind of shit.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 30, 2013 7:48:55 GMT
I thought as a front two Jon and Crouch looked as disjointed as ever.
It was bloody frustrating to see a footballer in the middle with nobody to pass to.
That system has some merit (well the three in midfield does anyway) but we need a solid back four along with pace and movement up front.
Sadly after last night I suspect we'll never see a midfield three again thanks to how useless the 3-5-2 was.
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Post by DrGonzo on Jan 30, 2013 7:49:54 GMT
Andy Cooke mark II. Some people seem to love a bog average player as long as he runs around a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 7:53:41 GMT
He's done well last few weeks but last night he was garbage
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jan 30, 2013 8:01:09 GMT
He's done well last few weeks but last night he was garbage He was mate. Him and half a dozen others. (Shit!...failed already) ;D
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Post by redwhite on Jan 30, 2013 8:05:17 GMT
Would gladly see him never wear a stoke shirt again. Simply nowhere near good enough to be played in this division.
To the bloke slating nzonzi, our most consistent player this season. Goals don't make him a good player, his fantastic composure and reading of the game do. Having a go at him for not scoring is like having a go at begovic for being shit at crossing. And for the record, yes he did have a shot on target last night.
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Post by 11wilkosinateam on Jan 30, 2013 8:05:52 GMT
hes our top goal scorer this season
he does his job well
slightly limited ability but if no even close to being the worst striker in the league
people were raving about him after the liverpool and palace games
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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 30, 2013 8:46:23 GMT
As I posted in another thread, 18 goals in 98 appearances. That's a pretty damning statistic. how many goals does nzonzi have? ??? hahaha rest my case rather have a man give all then one mope about then shake his head and look disinterested on the bench when he did Fuck all in the game except get that 100% pass rating to the full backs and his midfield componets. Did he have a shot on goal? did he run at anyone? did he slide tackle or get a yellow from trying? no we was F'n a liability gave them their first goal chance from poor marking then jogged the last 25 minutes until he was subbed with a poor choice of replacement bemoans the fact he was utter shit tonite and until he starts contributing in attack he is no use to Stoke I'd rather have delap back imo atleast he attacked and gave us that long throw which is more assist's than nzonzi will ever get if he keeps playing in the midfield circle 100% of the game. You really don't deserve a football team. Is there no baseball forums you can go and post on?
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Post by andylgr on Jan 30, 2013 8:50:28 GMT
Last night he wasn't helped by playing centre midfield for the last half an hour, WTF was that about?
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Post by foster on Jan 30, 2013 8:51:28 GMT
how many goals does nzonzi have? ??? hahaha rest my case rather have a man give all then one mope about then shake his head and look disinterested on the bench when he did Fuck all in the game except get that 100% pass rating to the full backs and his midfield componets. Did he have a shot on goal? did he run at anyone? did he slide tackle or get a yellow from trying? no we was F'n a liability gave them their first goal chance from poor marking then jogged the last 25 minutes until he was subbed with a poor choice of replacement bemoans the fact he was utter shit tonite and until he starts contributing in attack he is no use to Stoke I'd rather have delap back imo atleast he attacked and gave us that long throw which is more assist's than nzonzi will ever get if he keeps playing in the midfield circle 100% of the game. You really don't deserve a football team. Is there no baseball forums you can go and post on? +1 Yeah, let's all cain our best player of the season so far for having one bad game in which the manager fucked up. Even if N'Zonzi had a poor game, from what I saw it was after he went off that our midfield caved in entirely and wouldn't even attempt to win the ball.
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