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Post by RAF on Sept 30, 2012 13:04:26 GMT
Nowhere near as good as Pennant, sorry to say. He did ok, but ok at best. So frustrating that Pennant seems to be gone. On form he gave us so much. Sadly Kights isn't half the player JP is, having said that nor is he half the twat that JP would appear to be. Also very frustrating that our manager is clearly a fucking liar. H
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Post by bettyswallox on Sept 30, 2012 13:07:11 GMT
So frustrating that Pennant seems to be gone. On form he gave us so much. Sadly Kights isn't half the player JP is, having said that nor is he half the twat that JP would appear to be. Also very frustrating that our manager is clearly a fucking liar. H Did you get out the wrong side of the bed this morning? How is Pulis a "fucking liar", by the way?
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Post by stokelad84 on Sept 30, 2012 13:08:34 GMT
RAF has a dossier going back 10 years betty. So be prepared for a long answer
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 30, 2012 13:09:08 GMT
To say Eteherington and Pennant are a better option than Kightly on recent form is the lie if there is one.
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Post by RAF on Sept 30, 2012 13:10:00 GMT
Also very frustrating that our manager is clearly a fucking liar. H Did you get out the wrong side of the bed this morning? How is Pulis a "fucking liar", by the way? He has publicly stated he has no problem with Pennant, when he clearly fucking does. H
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Post by stokelad84 on Sept 30, 2012 13:10:26 GMT
Indeed Sheik, nobody in the current first 11 should be dropped on recent form.
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Post by robinredcoat on Sept 30, 2012 13:10:32 GMT
You think the team was creative last year then? I'm sure I don't need to churn out the stats about number of goals, chances etc, we all know them. Why on earth anyone would want to go back to that beggers belief! Which is what you were suggesting. Come on Rob, admit it, your suggestion was ill thought out, which is understandable on a Sunday morning, but stop trying to dig yourself in deeper! Rob? No I don't think the suggestion is ill thought out - I think Walters is better at playing in the hole than Adam and I think Pennant and Matty are better wingers than Kightly and Walters. Just because TP has altered the personnel doesn't then mean it's a given that it's better. In my opinion we clearly looked far more focussed offensively once Adam went off, Walters went into the hole and Matty came in on the flank. Lol sorry Paul, don't know why I typed "Rob!" So are you suggesting the team hasn't shown more creativity this season than last in general? If so, I don't agree.
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Post by RAF on Sept 30, 2012 13:11:58 GMT
RAF has a dossier going back 10 years betty. So be prepared for a long answer Good win for your lot at Bradford yesterday knobhead. H
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 30, 2012 13:12:24 GMT
Did you get out the wrong side of the bed this morning? How is Pulis a "fucking liar", by the way? He has publicly stated he has no problem with Pennant, when he clearly fucking does. H Perhaps he just prefers to keep things in house. To some that may appear good management.
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Post by bettyswallox on Sept 30, 2012 13:12:55 GMT
Did you get out the wrong side of the bed this morning? How is Pulis a "fucking liar", by the way? He has publicly stated he has no problem with Pennant, when he clearly fucking does. H I'm interested in why it clearly makes you so angry ;D Maybe he does have a problem with him, but IMO Kightly's been very good since joining. He's more of a goal threat than Pennant and tracks back better as well.
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Post by bettyswallox on Sept 30, 2012 13:15:05 GMT
RAF has a dossier going back 10 years betty. So be prepared for a long answer Good win for your lot at Bradford yesterday knobhead. H Are you on a personal mission to insult as many members of the board as possible before you log off for the evening? Don't forget to bollock Lakeland for putting an apostrophe in the wrong place, your day won't be complete otherwise.
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Post by stokelad84 on Sept 30, 2012 13:16:46 GMT
RAF can say what he wants. You just have to accept it betty He think anybody who has been a supprter for less than 30 years is a cunt. So that says it all to me.
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Post by RAF on Sept 30, 2012 13:18:01 GMT
Good win for your lot at Bradford yesterday knobhead. H Are you on a personal mission to insult as many members of the board as possible before you log off for the evening? Don't forget to bollock Lakeland for putting an apostrophe in the wrong place, your day won't be complete otherwise. I don't see Jokelad the Vale fan as a member of the board, as for your Lakeland comment don't ever accuse me of irony ever again you complete pipe. H
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Post by RAF on Sept 30, 2012 13:18:57 GMT
RAF can say what he wants. You just have to accept it betty He think anybody who has been a supprter for less than 30 years is a cunt. So that says it all to me. No I don't , I just think a Vale fan on a wind up like you is one. H
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Post by bettyswallox on Sept 30, 2012 13:21:36 GMT
Are you on a personal mission to insult as many members of the board as possible before you log off for the evening? Don't forget to bollock Lakeland for putting an apostrophe in the wrong place, your day won't be complete otherwise. I don't see Jokelad the Vale fan as a member of the board, as for your Lakeland comment don't ever accuse me of irony ever again you complete pipe. H What if I do?! Will you go all 'flouncing handbag' on me?
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Post by RAF on Sept 30, 2012 13:22:46 GMT
I don't see Jokelad the Vale fan as a member of the board, as for your Lakeland comment don't ever accuse me of irony ever again you complete pipe. H What if I do?! Will you go all 'flouncing handbag' on me? No, I shall point out that you are a very silly little boy. H
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Post by bettyswallox on Sept 30, 2012 13:26:45 GMT
What if I do?! Will you go all 'flouncing handbag' on me? No, I shall point out that you are a very silly little boy. H Says the person who gets so worked up with other posters on a message board that he challenges them to a fight
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Post by RAF on Sept 30, 2012 13:27:43 GMT
No, I shall point out that you are a very silly little boy. H Says the person who gets so worked up with other posters on a message board that he challenges them to a fight Oh dear, you have really let yourself down there. It's a messageboard in joke, ask MCF. H
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Post by bettyswallox on Sept 30, 2012 13:38:25 GMT
Says the person who gets so worked up with other posters on a message board that he challenges them to a fight Oh dear, you have really let yourself down there. It's a messageboard in joke, ask MCF. H Ah right, nudge nudge wink wink ;D Who's MCF?
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Post by RAF on Sept 30, 2012 13:40:02 GMT
Oh dear, you have really let yourself down there. It's a messageboard in joke, ask MCF. H Ah right, nudge nudge wink wink ;D Who's MCF? You don't have to take my word for it, maybe OS, MCF or any of the admin can educate you. H
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Post by bettyswallox on Sept 30, 2012 13:41:22 GMT
Ah right, nudge nudge wink wink ;D Who's MCF? You don't have to take my word for it, maybe OS, MCF or any of the admin can educate you. H I think I'll just let it go straight over my head this time.
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Post by RAF on Sept 30, 2012 13:42:39 GMT
You don't have to take my word for it, maybe OS, MCF or any of the admin can educate you. H I think I'll just let it go straight over my head this time. Situation normal then. H
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Post by bettyswallox on Sept 30, 2012 13:45:23 GMT
I think I'll just let it go straight over my head this time. Situation normal then. H Razor sharp as always, "H". R.
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Post by RAF on Sept 30, 2012 13:51:30 GMT
Razor sharp as always, "H". R. Is your surname Sole? H
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Post by potterpaul on Sept 30, 2012 13:55:44 GMT
Matty has had one and a half good games in 12 months and JP has been in very mixed form when he's played. To suggest these two are ahead of Kightly in the pecking order after the pretty solid start to his Stoke career is beyond me. Good point, very well made. Mattys cameo yesterday was encouraging but at this stage I'm quite happy to see him contributing from the bench with 20 mins of energy than playing for 75 mins offering next to nothing.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 30, 2012 13:58:53 GMT
Matty has had one and a half good games in 12 months and JP has been in very mixed form when he's played. To suggest these two are ahead of Kightly in the pecking order after the pretty solid start to his Stoke career is beyond me. Good point, very well made. Mattys cameo yesterday was encouraging but at this stage I'm quite happy to see him contributing from the bench with 20 mins of energy than playing for 75 mins offering next to nothing. These +1
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 30, 2012 14:15:05 GMT
Got to say I've been really impressed with his work rate. Works very hard and absolutely ran their full back ragged yesterday. I thought Kightly put the cross in for the 2nd goal?
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Post by jarhead on Sept 30, 2012 15:42:42 GMT
How Pennant is not getting in the team just so we can play the likes Kightly and walters on the wings against lesser sides is fuckin scandalous!
Its still all about work rate before talent.
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Post by jarvinski on Sept 30, 2012 16:09:46 GMT
Pennant is the man, get him back in tone
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Post by skelman on Sept 30, 2012 16:31:05 GMT
A fully fit & focussed Pennant offers a better package than Kightly
HOWEVER
Kightly is pacier, can turn inside & importantly gets round the outside of defenders (which Jermaine rarely does). As a result he creates more uncertainty in defender's minds at the moment. Jermaine usually delivers a better final ball & his defensive contribution is excellent.
Crucially Kightly's seems to be 110% committed however, if JP has appeared to be anything less than 100%, that may well not be fully his fault!!
Jermaine is a class player. I really want to see him playing with our developing midfield. I'm 120% sure that the support, variety and options they would provide, would bring out the very best in him & we would see a rejuvenated & improved quality winger who could turn matches for us.
So many times JP & Matty were unsupported last season & had to go it alone against 2/3 defenders. With the addition of Zonzi & Adam and a less shackled Whelan & Walters, more options will be opened up for both wingers and the team as a whole.
We all know TP is a mule, so Pennant has to keep knocking at the door in every way he can and show a 130% positive attitude.
Graft time will hopefully lead to game time for Pennant.
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