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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 10, 2012 22:23:54 GMT
Stoke manager Tony Pulis on Ricardo Fuller red card: “I’ve just watched it on the TV and it’s a ridiculous reaction. Ric has been at this club for six years now and he’s been fantastic. But he is prone to react sometimes like that. It is unacceptable. He’s a great lad and I’ve got a lot of time for him. He was the first one to apologise when we were all in the dressing room. I’ll speak to him on Monday before I speak to anyone else That it was his first league start in a long time makes it doubly disappointing.” Indefensible actions today. But he's always had it in him, and we all know it. He'll get fined 2 weeks wages and probably feel like shit all weekend. He's got real anger management issues. When he thinks he's wronged, he sees the red mist......and KABOOM! But you'd hope he'd built up enough credit to avoid the kind of bullshit abuse he's got today. Depressingly, obviously not. It's saddening to see this kind of kneejerk nonsense written about a player who's done so much for us and is the best player I've ever seen at Stoke. I don't get it. Wilkinson got applauded off the pitch when he got sent off for bringing down a certain unpopular androgynous player. He certainly didn't get anything like the slating that Ric has got today, even though it was a fairly deliberate attempt to get his own back for the earlier kick-out. When Huth does something mental, we all just laugh at it as being typical of Huthy, especially when he gets away with it. When he gets caught out he gets called stupid and the like, but there's never been any furore like that which Ric received today. There were people earlier demanding that his contract was torn up on the spot. Why? I cannot understand why people are seemingly queueing up to have a hysterical dig at Fuller after everything that he's done for the club.
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Post by Davef on Mar 10, 2012 22:28:00 GMT
Stoke manager Tony Pulis on Ricardo Fuller red card: “I’ve just watched it on the TV and it’s a ridiculous reaction. Ric has been at this club for six years now and he’s been fantastic. But he is prone to react sometimes like that. It is unacceptable. He’s a great lad and I’ve got a lot of time for him. He was the first one to apologise when we were all in the dressing room. I’ll speak to him on Monday before I speak to anyone else That it was his first league start in a long time makes it doubly disappointing.” Indefensible actions today. But he's always had it in him, and we all know it. He'll get fined 2 weeks wages and probably feel like shit all weekend. He's got real anger management issues. When he thinks he's wronged, he sees the red mist......and KABOOM! But you'd hope he'd built up enough credit to avoid the kind of bullshit abuse he's got today. Depressingly, obviously not. It's saddening to see this kind of kneejerk nonsense written about a player who's done so much for us and is the best player I've ever seen at Stoke. I don't get it. Wilkinson got applauded off the pitch when he got sent off for bringing down a certain unpopular androgynous player. He certainly didn't get anything like the slating that Ric has got today, even though it was a fairly deliberate attempt to get his own back for the earlier kick-out. When Huth does something mental, we all just laugh at it as being typical of Huthy, especially when he gets away with it. When he gets caught out he gets called stupid and the like, but there's never been any furore like that which Ric received today. There were people earlier demanding that his contract was torn up on the spot. Why? I cannot understand why people are seemingly queueing up to have a hysterical dig at Fuller after everything that he's done for the club. Could it possibly be that some people misinterpret the opinion that without Ricardo Fuller's contribution we wouldn't be in the Premier League right now as a dig at TP or not giving him enough of the credit they think he deserves for our promotion? Just a thought. It's hard to understand some of the venom directed at Ric today, especially after such a relatively meaningless game. It's not like we're fifth from bottom and have just lost away at QPR!
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 11, 2012 0:19:41 GMT
I don't get it. Wilkinson got applauded off the pitch when he got sent off for bringing down a certain unpopular androgynous player. He certainly didn't get anything like the slating that Ric has got today, even though it was a fairly deliberate attempt to get his own back for the earlier kick-out. When Huth does something mental, we all just laugh at it as being typical of Huthy, especially when he gets away with it. When he gets caught out he gets called stupid and the like, but there's never been any furore like that which Ric received today. There were people earlier demanding that his contract was torn up on the spot. Why? I cannot understand why people are seemingly queueing up to have a hysterical dig at Fuller after everything that he's done for the club. Could it possibly be that some people misinterpret the opinion that without Ricardo Fuller's contribution we wouldn't be in the Premier League right now as a dig at TP or not giving him enough of the credit they think he deserves for our promotion? Just a thought. It's hard to understand some of the venom directed at Ric today, especially after such a relatively meaningless game. It's not like we're fifth from bottom and have just lost away at QPR! He's a selfish player who despite some great goals has let us down before with his petulance . If any of our other players played with fullers lack of effort and interest they would be rightly slated on here some of our squad are on the way to becoming legends IMO fuller will never be one
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Post by northantsash on Mar 11, 2012 7:45:00 GMT
Davef why is it hard to understand the venom directed at ric? He stamps on the bloke because he had a little jiggle at him, as dirty as Chelsea are and as vulnerable as ric is to the wind up, it's an act of utter stupidity. We are not going to get three points at Chelsea, but any chance of a point was blown by having ten men for an hour. It's not the first time he has done it, you'd think he may be able to control himself. The fans frustration is that on his first league start in over a year he shoots himself in the foot. Fuller was our best attacking option for a long time, for me he has lost that spark, whether it's lack of matches, short on confidence or loss of pace. Big problem is nowhere is banned for 3 games, will he be given another chance this season?
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Post by Northy on Mar 11, 2012 7:56:33 GMT
there's a saying that genius's are 1 step away from madness, I think that's Ric.
He's played a massive part in where we are today, he needed a decent run in the team to get his sharpness back, sadly that won't happen now. Can't understand why Jerome didn't start instead of Ric or was TP thinking of playing him next Sunday ???
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 11, 2012 7:59:37 GMT
Davef why is it hard to understand the venom directed at ric? He stamps on the bloke because he had a little jiggle at him, as dirty as Chelsea are and as vulnerable as ric is to the wind up, it's an act of utter stupidity. We are not going to get three points at Chelsea, but any chance of a point was blown by having ten men for an hour. It's not the first time he has done it, you'd think he may be able to control himself. The fans frustration is that on his first league start in over a year he shoots himself in the foot. Fuller was our best attacking option for a long time, for me he has lost that spark, whether it's lack of matches, short on confidence or loss of pace. Big problem is nowhere is banned for 3 games, will he be given another chance this season? I think there's a big difference between someone like yourself being mightily pissed off with him for yesterday's antics (as I am) and people who have called him a "wanker" and a "cunt". He was stupid and got sent off (as Huth did when he twatted Upson) but his actions at Stamford Bridge simply do not warrant the abuse he's received especially given what he has done for the club over the years. There's a world of difference between being annoyed and not being able to convey that feeling without resorting to abusing a player who played a pivotal role in getting and keeping us at this level. Ric has provided me and thousands of other Stokies with some of our greatest football related memories over the last 20 years. Yesterday's stupid red card cannot take away the truly fantastic performances Ricardo Fuller has produced for Stoke City. So be mad by all means but to abuse him as some have is disgraceful and frankly far more embarrassing than anything Ric did at Chelsea.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Mar 11, 2012 8:40:31 GMT
Davef why is it hard to understand the venom directed at ric? He stamps on the bloke because he had a little jiggle at him, as dirty as Chelsea are and as vulnerable as ric is to the wind up, it's an act of utter stupidity. We are not going to get three points at Chelsea, but any chance of a point was blown by having ten men for an hour. It's not the first time he has done it, you'd think he may be able to control himself. The fans frustration is that on his first league start in over a year he shoots himself in the foot. Fuller was our best attacking option for a long time, for me he has lost that spark, whether it's lack of matches, short on confidence or loss of pace. Big problem is nowhere is banned for 3 games, will he be given another chance this season? I think there's a big difference between someone like yourself being mightily pissed off with him for yesterday's antics (as I am) and people who have called him a "wanker" and a "cunt". He was stupid and got sent off (as Huth did when he twatted Upson) but his actions at Stamford Bridge simply do not warrant the abuse he's received especially given what he has done for the club over the years. There's a world of difference between being annoyed and not being able to convey that feeling without resorting to abusing a player who played a pivotal role in getting and keeping us at this level. Ric has provided me and thousands of other Stokies with some of our greatest football related memories over the last 20 years. Yesterday's stupid red card cannot take away the truly fantastic performances Ricardo Fuller has produced for Stoke City. So be mad by all means but to abuse him as some have is disgraceful and frankly far more embarrassing than anything Ric did at Chelsea. yorker, stumps aots. As spot-on a post as you'll get on this situation.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Mar 11, 2012 8:42:08 GMT
I think there's a big difference between someone like yourself being mightily pissed off with him for yesterday's antics (as I am) and people who have called him a "wanker" and a "cunt". He was stupid and got sent off (as Huth did when he twatted Upson) but his actions at Stamford Bridge simply do not warrant the abuse he's received especially given what he has done for the club over the years. There's a world of difference between being annoyed and not being able to convey that feeling without resorting to abusing a player who played a pivotal role in getting and keeping us at this level. Ric has provided me and thousands of other Stokies with some of our greatest football related memories over the last 20 years. Yesterday's stupid red card cannot take away the truly fantastic performances Ricardo Fuller has produced for Stoke City. So be mad by all means but to abuse him as some have is disgraceful and frankly far more embarrassing than anything Ric did at Chelsea. yorker, stumps aots. As spot-on a post as you'll get on this situation. exactly, and in that regard it's no different to the Pulis abuse
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Post by Beardy200 on Mar 11, 2012 10:28:25 GMT
you are both forgetting that this is Tony's 'Ric' we're talking about! Listen to Tone's post match interview today....Ric will be forgiven long before Pennant is retort is directed to phil and roots' response, you kids type fast To be fair Shell, Ric has a very short fuse and does stupid things in the heat of the moment as he has the patience of a small child. That's in his make up and difficult to change. Pennant's actions were premeditated. He had time to think about and consider what he was doing, he knew it was wrong and did it anyway, allegedly twice. It's not excusing Ric in any way but is an argument why Pennant has been frozen out for so long (assuming it's all true obviously). If Ric has apologised and Pennant has dug his heels in it's another rreason he may get forgiven quicker. He has been out of the team for a long time though, since the contract issues came up, so he's hardly forgiven at the drop of a hat. Either way the two of them would be my first 2 names on the starting sheet after they have served a suitable punishment.
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Post by oasis on Mar 11, 2012 11:03:55 GMT
I'm only 16 and have supported them since I was 5......he is certainly the greatest player of my lifetime! He will always be a legend in my eyes, just gutted that it is going to end like this A bit like Tevez to a lot of Citeh fans....Again, a strange comparison. Tevez was never as talismanic for the billionaires as Ric was for us - and I can never picture Ric refusing to come on in a match. Fuller is not finished - quote me on that in may The first season they signed him he carried them, scoring about 35 goals... The point I was making is Citeh fans will always love him for what he did for them in that season and last, just like most of us will always love Ric for what he has done for us
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Post by PolPotter on Mar 11, 2012 11:13:00 GMT
Fuller is going full circle at Stoke. He started off with a question mark on his fitness, he was crap on the pitch and with a temper matching Attila the Hun's. TP sorted his head and body and we saw his best in winning promotion with some classic goals in our Premiership survival. Anyway, his fitness can be questioned again, his Attila the Hun-like temper is back and his crap on the pitch.
Times up.
fffk him off.
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Post by Davef on Mar 11, 2012 11:15:52 GMT
What a way to treat a hero. Shameful.
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Post by foxysgloves on Mar 11, 2012 11:19:02 GMT
Fuller is going full circle at Stoke. He started off with a question mark on his fitness, he was crap on the pitch and with a temper matching Attila the Hun's. TP sorted his head and body and we saw his best in winning promotion with some classic goals in our Premiership survival. Anyway, his fitness can be questioned again, his Attila the Hun-like temper is back and his crap on the pitch. Times up. fffk him off. And by that logic he is about to embark on another glorious run of form. I agree entirely. There's still more to come from the great man. Write him off. The more people who do the more likely he'll shove your words back down your throat.
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Post by PolPotter on Mar 11, 2012 11:21:07 GMT
What a way to treat a hero. Shameful. It was shameful what he did yesterday. Let go of that emotional attachment you have and think of it as business. He's a liability now.
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Post by shipshape on Mar 11, 2012 11:51:49 GMT
This thread absolutely confirms my long held belief that certain people only post on this message board to seek attention by posting delibrately inflammatory remarks.
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Post by magicmanfuller on Mar 11, 2012 12:23:23 GMT
is he fuck a legend. stanley matthews is a legnd. dennis smith is a legend. ricardo fuller is an inconsistent footballer with a very average goalscoring record who doesnt give a flying fuck about the team or the shirt which he proved yday. its as simple as that
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Mar 11, 2012 12:40:57 GMT
What a damn shame if it was the last time we see Fuller playing for Stoke, a sad end to a great, gifted and almost legendary Stoke player. If it was I’d just like to say thanks Ricardo. Gouranga.
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Post by Do eet for Eetinneriseet on Mar 11, 2012 13:11:36 GMT
is he fuck a legend. stanley matthews is a legnd. dennis smith is a legend. ricardo fuller is an inconsistent footballer with a very average goalscoring record who doesnt give a flying fuck about the team or the shirt which he proved yday. its as simple as that look at your comment then have a glance at your username There has been a lot of shit written on this message board last 24 hours,rip his contract up,liability etc Lets just all calm down a bit,lets just remember for a minute what he has brought to this club,goals assists,excitement,bums off seats when the ball goes near him. He let everybody down yesterday,yes,mostly himself. He is still the most dangerous forward we have,the most exciting player we have,he is never going to score 25 goals a season,but a fit Ric can still bring a lot to this team. their was nobody more disappointed than myself(well maybe TP and Ric himself)with what he did yesterday because I've wanted him back in the team so much(probably a lot are the same hence the knee jerk reaction comments,its down to frustration) No he's not got another 5 years in him,but the thought of selling him and then a fit and firing Ric coming back down here and doing what he can do is unbearable TP will punish him how he sees proper,i just hope to god he gets another chance and doesn't end up on the naughty step with Jermaine and then bailed out. Jesus it was bad enough losing my hero to the red shit(damn wind) but now Ric,oh to be a stoke fan end of rant
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Mar 11, 2012 13:46:45 GMT
Like a lot of people have said, and like Ive been saying for past 18 months
Ric has been a fantastic servant for the club, and no words can desribe my thanks.for him for his goals and free kicks, throw in etc he won in our promotion season... like wise with Mama (his 2 goals against bristol were probably 2 moat important goals in our hiatory - along with Lawrence against Cov)
but all good things have to come to an end, and Fuller has been off it for a while now, hes lost his pace and his little skill factor he had a long time again and like previously been said it angers him, every time hes come on ges squared up to a player this season.....and to make an angry man even more angrier is a recipie for disaster. I think we do need to get rid before he does more things to annoy us fans...and we end up remembering bad thibgs rather than the good
A lot of people think I dislike him, its not the case at all...Im just not blinkered and can see he does do wrong he does have bad games he does make the wrong decisions he does do.stupid stuff......this as always been the case....but with age and game time not on his side. These things are just going be highlighted morr
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Mar 11, 2012 13:49:33 GMT
and to add morr stoke to the fire Jones on his day is better than Fuller as ever been on his day. And Ive never known a player slagged off like Jones
Jerome on his day is as good as Fuller...Hes our future impact player. I was one of few who said this when Jerome signed and now everyone is kinda of agreeing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2012 13:53:44 GMT
and to add morr stoke to the fire Jones on his day is better than Fuller as ever been on his day. And Ive never known a player slagged off like Jones Jerome on his day is as good as Fuller...Hes our future impact player. I was one of few who said this when Jerome signed and now everyone is kinda of agreeing. Jones could be one of the best strikers in the league if he played every game to his potential, better than Crouch at his full potential to be honest.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 11, 2012 14:01:55 GMT
and to add morr stoke to the fire Jones on his day is better than Fuller as ever been on his day. And Ive never known a player slagged off like Jones Jerome on his day is as good as Fuller...Hes our future impact player. I was one of few who said this when Jerome signed and now everyone is kinda of agreeing. Nowhere near, in either case, IMO. Not even in the same post code. And the pair of 'em don't have many days, do they? That's their problem. Jones could be an excellent player. 3 or 4 times a season he looks one of the best players of his particular type around. But he's purely reliant on his physical gifts - his strength and spring. His main problem, though, is in his head. He seems a very fragile character. I like both of them - but Jerome isn't fit to lace Fuller's boots. Never has been and never will be. When he's 'on', he's totally reliant on his strength and searing pace and operates totally in straight lines. There's no guile there. He's an athlete first, and footballer second. That can still be very exciting, but you just don't get the same buzz as with a total natural like Fuller. And I think football is all about that buzz.
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Post by Do eet for Eetinneriseet on Mar 11, 2012 14:03:54 GMT
and to add morr stoke to the fire Jones on his day is better than Fuller as ever been on his day. And Ive never known a player slagged off like Jones Jerome on his day is as good as Fuller...Hes our future impact player. I was one of few who said this when Jerome signed and now everyone is kinda of agreeing. Comedy gold mate actually made me lol
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 11, 2012 14:05:15 GMT
and to add morr stoke to the fire Jones on his day is better than Fuller as ever been on his day. And Ive never known a player slagged off like Jones Jerome on his day is as good as Fuller...Hes our future impact player. I was one of few who said this when Jerome signed and now everyone is kinda of agreeing. I think Kenwyne and Cameron are good players but neither are fit to lace Ric's boots in my opinion. Jones just hasn't got the aptitude to make the most of what he's got and to be honest I'm amazed anyone can even compare Ric with these two lads. Ric has done so much for Stoke City, the other two haven't really done that much at all as of right now. If they go on to have Stoke careers anywhere near as vital as Ric we will be very lucky indeed. Personally I don't see them leaving a legacy like Fuller will.
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Mar 11, 2012 14:11:59 GMT
and to add morr stoke to the fire Jones on his day is better than Fuller as ever been on his day. And Ive never known a player slagged off like Jones Jerome on his day is as good as Fuller...Hes our future impact player. I was one of few who said this when Jerome signed and now everyone is kinda of agreeing. Nowhere near, in either case, IMO. Not even in the same post code. And the pair of 'em don't have many days, do they? That's their problem. Jones could be an excellent player. 3 or 4 times a season he looks one of the best players of his particular type around. But he's purely reliant on his physical gifts - his strength and spring. His main problem, though, is in his head. He seems a very fragile character. I like both of them - but Jerome isn't fit to lace Fuller's boots. Never has been and never will be. When he's 'on', he's totally reliant on his strength and searing pace and operates totally in straight lines. There's no guile there. He's an athlete first, and footballer second. That can still be very exciting, but you just don't get the same buzz as with a total natural like Fuller. And I think football is all about that buzz. > neither does Fuller, always been the case where he has 1 good game in 3/5 > as fragile as you think Jones might me, Fuller is just as gragile...yesterday proved that. Hes got a screw lose the man as >Running in straight lines is Fullers best atribute.. Running at defenders, defenders and defenders shitting himself...his skilfullness is being direct. Jerome gets me as excited as Fuller as done in the premiership FM - Are you related to Fuller in some way, I mean you arent the only one with a massive love in for Fuller but you really wont have a bad word said about him, its so blinkered its untrue. What needs to happen to show ge isnt this world class, amazing, messi-like player you seen to think he is whi can do no wrong in any part of his game?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 11, 2012 14:14:28 GMT
Nowhere near, in either case, IMO. Not even in the same post code. And the pair of 'em don't have many days, do they? That's their problem. Jones could be an excellent player. 3 or 4 times a season he looks one of the best players of his particular type around. But he's purely reliant on his physical gifts - his strength and spring. His main problem, though, is in his head. He seems a very fragile character. I like both of them - but Jerome isn't fit to lace Fuller's boots. Never has been and never will be. When he's 'on', he's totally reliant on his strength and searing pace and operates totally in straight lines. There's no guile there. He's an athlete first, and footballer second. That can still be very exciting, but you just don't get the same buzz as with a total natural like Fuller. And I think football is all about that buzz. > neither does Fuller, always been the case where he has 1 good game in 3/5 > as fragile as you think Jones might me, Fuller is just as gragile...yesterday proved that. Hes got a screw lose the man as >Running in straight lines is Fullers best atribute.. Running at defenders, defenders and defenders shitting himself...his skilfullness is being direct. Jerome gets me as excited as Fuller as done in the premiership FM - Are you related to Fuller in some way, I mean you arent the only one with a massive love in for Fuller but you really wont have a bad word said about him, its so blinkered its untrue. What needs to happen to show ge isnt this world class, amazing, messi-like player you seen to think he is whi can do no wrong in any part of his game? I'm not being funny but if you think all Ric has got is "being direct" you must have watched the last 5 years with your eyes shut!
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Mar 11, 2012 14:19:38 GMT
and to add morr stoke to the fire Jones on his day is better than Fuller as ever been on his day. And Ive never known a player slagged off like Jones Jerome on his day is as good as Fuller...Hes our future impact player. I was one of few who said this when Jerome signed and now everyone is kinda of agreeing. I think Kenwyne and Cameron are good players but neither are fit to lace Ric's boots in my opinion. Jones just hasn't got the aptitude to make the most of what he's got and to be honest I'm amazed anyone can even compare Ric with these two lads. Ric has done so much for Stoke City, the other two haven't really done that much at all as of right now. If they go on to have Stoke careers anywhere near as vital as Ric we will be very lucky indeed. Personally I don't see them leaving a legacy like Fuller will. Jamo, I think you mis understood the point I was making. I never questioned what Fuller has done, nor am I saying that Ric wont leave a legacy. I was purely stating that on their day...they are as good as, in Jeromes case or better than, in Jones' case than Fuller. Whether or not they have 1 good game in 10 or that good game is every week isnt the point I was making...The point was if all 3 played to the best of their abilities Jones would be the best, then Jerome and Fuller with little difference between the two
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Mar 11, 2012 14:22:36 GMT
> neither does Fuller, always been the case where he has 1 good game in 3/5 > as fragile as you think Jones might me, Fuller is just as gragile...yesterday proved that. Hes got a screw lose the man as > Running in straight lines is Fullers best atribute.. Running at defenders, defenders and defenders shitting himself...his skilfullness is being direct. Jerome gets me as excited as Fuller as done in the premiership FM - Are you related to Fuller in some way, I mean you arent the only one with a massive love in for Fuller but you really wont have a bad word said about him, its so blinkered its untrue. What needs to happen to show ge isnt this world class, amazing, messi-like player you seen to think he is whi can do no wrong in any part of his game? I'm not being funny but if you think all Ric has got is "being direct" you must have watched the last 5 years with your eyes shut! again, you mis understood what I said....He's got a lot more in his locker, than being direct.... However I firmly believe that its one of his best attributes, and that is what wint un corners, free kicks, throw ins etc that leads us to the goals that Ric doesn't score. OK he does dance in between defenders, but he loses the ball more than it coming off.. Where as when he runs at defenders directly, he wither beats the man, or wins the thrown in or free kick.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 11, 2012 14:23:50 GMT
I think Kenwyne and Cameron are good players but neither are fit to lace Ric's boots in my opinion. Jones just hasn't got the aptitude to make the most of what he's got and to be honest I'm amazed anyone can even compare Ric with these two lads. Ric has done so much for Stoke City, the other two haven't really done that much at all as of right now. If they go on to have Stoke careers anywhere near as vital as Ric we will be very lucky indeed. Personally I don't see them leaving a legacy like Fuller will. Jamo, I think you mis understood the point I was making. I never questioned what Fuller has done, nor am I saying that Ric wont leave a legacy. I was purely stating that on their day...they are as good as, in Jeromes case or better than, in Jones' case than Fuller. Whether or not they have 1 good game in 10 or that good game is every week isnt the point I was making...The point was if all 3 played to the best of their abilities Jones would be the best, then Jerome and Fuller with little difference between the two Still don't agree mate. Neither player you mention have anywhere near the ability Ric has. None are great goalscorers but only Ric can run with the ball at pace and score wonderful goals as well having the will to win that our number 10 has.
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Mar 11, 2012 14:27:18 GMT
Jamo, I think you mis understood the point I was making. I never questioned what Fuller has done, nor am I saying that Ric wont leave a legacy. I was purely stating that on their day...they are as good as, in Jeromes case or better than, in Jones' case than Fuller. Whether or not they have 1 good game in 10 or that good game is every week isnt the point I was making...The point was if all 3 played to the best of their abilities Jones would be the best, then Jerome and Fuller with little difference between the two Still don't agree mate. Neither player you mention have anywhere near the ability Ric has. None are great goalscorers but only Ric can run with the ball at pace and score wonderful goals as well having the will to win that our number 10 has. Did you go Wolves away last season? Think it was last seaosn, Jones' first game, OK he hit the crossbar, but a cm lower....He would have picked the ball up, ran at it with pace and scored a wonder goal....he has got it in his locker
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