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Post by tazi on Feb 17, 2012 16:23:14 GMT
Acres is a fucking prick, always has been always will be, he should fuck off back to Plymouth the arse sore. H Or Belguim...
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Feb 17, 2012 16:35:59 GMT
Acres is brill
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by staffordstokie999 on Feb 17, 2012 16:38:34 GMT
Does the old guy post on here? He should do, he would be right at home, he sounded quite sensible compared to many posters on here
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Post by scfcno1fan on Feb 17, 2012 16:40:23 GMT
I'm going to try and listen to it online as I want to see what all the furore is about.
Does anyone know how long it was into the programme that Harry was on?
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Feb 17, 2012 17:05:26 GMT
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Post by 1863 on Feb 17, 2012 17:08:19 GMT
I didn't hear what "Harry" said, but as someone who shares that fine name, I would immediately take his side.........and anyway Acre's is what my late father, also called Harry btw, would describe as a "guttersnipe" of the very worst order
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Post by swanster on Feb 17, 2012 17:51:15 GMT
Harry is a complete bell-end. You didn't have the 'pleasure' of sitting in front of him for the entire match last night.
He got what he deserved.
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Post by scfc5 on Feb 17, 2012 19:02:01 GMT
Fair play for the apology on the show tonight.
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Post by RAF on Feb 17, 2012 19:04:20 GMT
Acres is a fucking prick, always has been always will be, he should fuck off back to Plymouth the arse sore. H Or Belguim... Bloody hell, I haven't seen you for a while when did you get surgically removed from Pulis's sphincter? And it's Belgium you bellend! H
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2012 19:11:14 GMT
I would have just cut the line dead the minute he said mediocre team.....
Peni s
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Post by pegleg on Feb 17, 2012 19:16:07 GMT
Just listened to P&G. Fair do's to John Acres for apologising to Harry.
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Post by RAF on Feb 17, 2012 19:25:03 GMT
I don't like Acres, but fair play to the lad, he's apologised, good enough for me.
H
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2012 23:33:05 GMT
fair play... no need to though
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2012 0:35:01 GMT
There most definitely was a need for him to apologise, but he's done it, so fair enough. Poor sod's stuck between a rock and a Pulis.
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 18, 2012 5:36:51 GMT
Valencia were made to look a half decent side against us like we make most teams look against us .Bring on Crawley ?
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Post by theberlinwall on Feb 18, 2012 6:20:10 GMT
Think Acre's has got the point. Top marks to posters on the board for addressing the issue and for John apologising. Let's give the lad a chance
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Post by bunnyscfc on Feb 18, 2012 9:50:18 GMT
line drawn under it.
Now start asking some constructive questions Radio Stoke.
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Post by wuzza on Feb 18, 2012 10:13:22 GMT
just hope that this doesnt mean he is going to stop treating the anti-pulis codswallop that is texted in with the contempt it deserves.
(and by the way - with regard patronising people half the people on this thread sympathising with harry are going down the line of 'poor old codger' - 'bless him')
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Post by elystokie on Feb 18, 2012 10:26:34 GMT
"just hope that this doesnt mean he is going to stop treating the anti-pulis codswallop that is texted in with the contempt it deserves."
I don't imagine he will, he appears to be every bit as objective and impartial over the matter as yourself...
For different reasons obviously.
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Post by wuzza on Feb 18, 2012 10:40:07 GMT
Well if you think there is an ounce of sanity in that stuff - you keep with it....and see where it takes us.
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Post by elystokie on Feb 18, 2012 10:45:11 GMT
Whether I do or don't is totally irrelevant, the BBC are supposed to be impartial and are supposed to allow, on programmes such as that, the people that pay their wages the platform to express their views.
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Post by OldStokie on Feb 18, 2012 10:51:50 GMT
just hope that this doesnt mean he is going to stop treating the anti-pulis codswallop that is texted in with the contempt it deserves. (and by the way - with regard patronising people half the people on this thread sympathising with harry are going down the line of 'poor old codger' - 'bless him') You just don't get it do you, wuzza. It doesn't matter if the caller is a Stasi-like supporter like you, or an extreme PHW... anyone who phones in has the right to be treated with respect, and any points raised should be debated and not belittled. John Acres is fronting a program called 'Praise and Grumble'. John should be the conduit for all views, and not judge and jury of of what he thinks/is told to think these days. Common courtesy costs nothing and reaps the reward of respect. Condescending put-downs of those less able in the gift-of-the-gab department earns condemnation as this thread shows. This thread is not really about whether 'Harry' was right, but about the way he was treated. Anyway, if John has apologised, then he's gone part way to redeeming himself. I've always liked John Acres, but he's in a difficult situation when he can't be even-handed because of the power the club wield. But that doesn't give him the right to belittle anyone while he's trying not to step on the toes of powerful people who have enough clout to destroy his livelyhood. Fuck you 'Stoke City' for putting him in this position. When 'you' start to determine the agenda of what can or cannot be said, we have to question where it will end. What next? Wage a war against The Oatie? Ban supporters who don't toe the party line? These things have happened at other clubs, so don't think I'm talking bollox. OS.
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Post by wuzza on Feb 18, 2012 11:56:56 GMT
Stasi-like - blimey Old Stokie its a good job Im getting on a bit myself or I would have had to be scrabbling for the history books! I can assure you I absolutely do get it and as far as Im concerned Acres is more than polite in dealing with some views that ( just by looking at the facts never mind opinions) are clearly preposterous. I can not be doing with this sort of 'oppressed freedom of speech' line that people such as your good self come out with at convenient times .....though I am sure you do see yourselves on the front-line fighting the tyranny that is Tony Pulis !!
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Post by RAF on Feb 18, 2012 12:00:49 GMT
Stasi-like - blimey Old Stokie its a good job Im getting on a bit myself or I would have had to be scrabbling for the history books! I can assure you I absolutely do get it and as far as Im concerned Acres is more than polite in dealing with some views that ( just by looking at the facts never mind opinions) are clearly preposterous. I can not be doing with this sort of 'oppressed freedom of speech' line that people such as your good self come out with at convenient times .....though I am sure you do see yourselves on the front-line fighting the tyranny that is Tony Pulis !! Definitely a sign of the times when excuse merchants like you would rather defend a Plymouth supporting yes merchant journo over their own supporters regardless of whether you agree with their opinion or not. Fucking disgraceful. H
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Post by unknown182 on Feb 18, 2012 12:01:28 GMT
anyone who thinks that valencia are an average side needs to think again. their two fullbacks had etherington and pennant under check most of the night. their passing around the box was frightening at times and it looked as if they had about 13 players on plus their best plays I.e jordi alba, pablo hernandez, soldado, banega. didnt even play but we'll win next week
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Post by wuzza on Feb 18, 2012 12:08:15 GMT
Oh for goodness sake RAF - thats not up to your normal standards !
... but while we are on it its a shame that you see fit to back the views of the likes of Adrian Durham rather than back your own club's manager !
(Yes I know thats a stupid arguement but you started it)
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Post by RAF on Feb 18, 2012 12:10:49 GMT
Oh for goodness sake RAF - thats not up to your normal standards ! ... but while we are on it its a shame that you see fit to back the views of the likes of Adrian Durham rather than back your own club's manager ! (Yes I know thats a stupid arguement but you started it) I fucking hate Durham and have never backed anything he says. I'll defend TP to the hilt against twats like him, but Stoke fans have every right to criticise, not some journo hack trying to get a reaction. H
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Post by wuzza on Feb 18, 2012 12:22:26 GMT
In all honesty I think Acres is a good solid journalist (everything Durham, as you say, isnt) who makes reasoned points - he doesnt deserve the venom you are directing at him. If it came over wrong that time its unfortunate but it must be difficult to sometimes separate the wheat from the chaff with some of the people who contact that programme just as it is on this message board. If his general line was more in-sync with your own you probably wouldnt have to many qualms with the job he does.
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Post by RAF on Feb 18, 2012 12:26:39 GMT
In all honesty I think Acres is a good solid journalist (everything Durham, as you say, isnt) who makes reasoned points - he doesnt deserve the venom you are directing at him. If it came over wrong that time its unfortunate but it must be difficult to sometimes separate the wheat from the chaff with some of the people who contact that programme just as it is on this message board. If his general line was more in-sync with your own you probably wouldnt have to many qualms with the job he does. What he should be doing is being impartial and not trying to ridicule callers regardless of their views. That is his job. H
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Post by wuzza on Feb 18, 2012 12:33:15 GMT
Not easy RAF - have you ever heard a phone-in programme where at some point or other the presenter doesnt express a view or disagree with a caller ? I know its not your job ....but how easy do you find it not to ridicule some opinions expressed on this board or indeed the people who express them ?(dont answer that - I might end up in tears !)
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