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Post by stokiecarl09 on Jul 26, 2011 6:38:08 GMT
If sorenson isn't happy due to not playing regularly then why would he join man city? More chance of getting a few games behind begovic than hart.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 26, 2011 6:45:03 GMT
If sorenson isn't happy due to not playing regularly then why would he join man city? More chance of getting a few games behind begovic than hart. He's suggested that his main problem was not the number of games he played but the fact that his contract was worded so that, being number 2 choice, he lost a significant proportion of his wage through not playing as many games. I suppose he would love to be number 1 and playing every week (on decent money) but, if that isn't going to happen then he'd settle for number 2 with a better contract less weighted towards the number of games he plays.
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Post by Binndy on Jul 26, 2011 7:16:31 GMT
I would be sorry to see him go. How about a player exchange. YAYA Toure , anyone really except Balotelli
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2011 7:42:27 GMT
If sorenson isn't happy due to not playing regularly then why would he join man city? More chance of getting a few games behind begovic than hart. Sit on the bench here or for ridiculous money at Citeh at a late stage of your career? Ooh tough one...
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Post by heavysoul on Jul 26, 2011 7:43:32 GMT
Shame to see he go he`s been a great keeper for us!
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Post by LphPotter on Jul 26, 2011 7:44:51 GMT
would not be happy if we let him go, as i feel we wouldn't get much for him either :/. And we will have to find another keeperr
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Post by foster on Jul 26, 2011 7:48:05 GMT
Whats his current contract like?..Expires when?
What would be his sale value to us?... How much could we exchange him against?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 26, 2011 7:49:37 GMT
When it comes down to it, we'll probably feel it's better to squeeze £2-3m out of Man City for him this summer. We'd have to address the No.2 next summer, at the latest, anyway.
And I bet he'll appreciate the extra £10k-a-week in his wage packet if he goes there.
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Post by foster on Jul 26, 2011 7:52:31 GMT
The only good thing about this is that we actually have some bargaining power. Something we rarely get when wanting to deal with larger clubs.
I can seriously see us getting someone like SWP in exchange for Tommy.
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Post by PONTAFCE on Jul 26, 2011 8:52:32 GMT
Man citeh are keeping tabs on sorro why the fuck would he want go there and sit on the bench behind joe hart when he wants first team football.The only thing that would lure him away is money.
Sorry if posted.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2011 8:53:58 GMT
Money talks.
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Post by PenkhullStokie on Jul 26, 2011 8:55:10 GMT
Stoke City bench - 25-35k
Man City bench - 50k+
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Post by drews1f on Jul 26, 2011 8:56:53 GMT
money.
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Post by playstoke on Jul 26, 2011 8:57:33 GMT
Stoke City bench - 25-35k Man City bench - 50k+ plus, the chance to maybe get involved with coaching there once he hangs up his gloves? i'd wish him well wherever he went, porbably the best keeper i've ever seen in a stoke shirt
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Post by likelyladgalizmo on Jul 26, 2011 8:59:56 GMT
Playing in the champions league.
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Post by RAF on Jul 26, 2011 9:02:34 GMT
Stoke City bench - 25-35k Man City bench - 50k+ plus, the chance to maybe get involved with coaching there once he hangs up his gloves? i'd wish him well wherever he went, porbably the best keeper i've ever seen in a stoke shirt Plus not getting his fucking wages docked every time he doesn't play! H
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Post by jen on Jul 26, 2011 9:14:25 GMT
I'm a big fan of Tommy and would love him to finish his career here. But we can't compete with the likes of Man Citeh on wages.
If he can't get first team football with us or another premier league club, then who could blame him for going to Man Citeh for more money. It would be a shame though - because he's far too good to be a benchwarmer.
I just hope we can get decent back up - and hold on to Begovic - I'm not sure how much longer he's got on his contract, and I'm worried that his head could be turned again should a bigger club come sniffing round.
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Post by thebet365 on Jul 26, 2011 9:18:45 GMT
plus, the chance to maybe get involved with coaching there once he hangs up his gloves? i'd wish him well wherever he went, porbably the best keeper i've ever seen in a stoke shirt Plus not getting his fucking wages docked every time he doesn't play! H He doesn't get his wages docked for not playing. He get's his agreed contracted flat line wage week in week out. If he doesn't play then he doesn't get his appearance bonus.
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Post by foster on Jul 26, 2011 9:31:50 GMT
Plus not getting his fucking wages docked every time he doesn't play! H He doesn't get his wages docked for not playing. He get's his agreed contracted flat line wage week in week out. If he doesn't play then he doesn't get his appearance bonus. Same thing if he signed his original contract under the expectation that he would play every week. Quite pedantic comeback that. It's pretty obvious what the point being made refers to.
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Post by thebet365 on Jul 26, 2011 9:37:20 GMT
He doesn't get his wages docked for not playing. He get's his agreed contracted flat line wage week in week out. If he doesn't play then he doesn't get his appearance bonus. Same thing if he signed his original contract under the expectation that he would play every week. Quite pedantic comeback that. It's pretty obvious what the point being made refers to. The point being, everyone moans about the obscene amount of money players get, yet when the club try and stand by a contract they've negotiated with a player some fans start moaning about it. Sorro negotiated a contract, If he was daft enough to agree a more bonus lucrative contract than a standard wage that's his problem.
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Post by shep207 on Jul 26, 2011 10:35:54 GMT
He doesn't get his wages docked for not playing. He get's his agreed contracted flat line wage week in week out. If he doesn't play then he doesn't get his appearance bonus. Same thing if he signed his original contract under the expectation that he would play every week. Quite pedantic comeback that. It's pretty obvious what the point being made refers to. To be fair, you can't sign a contract which includes appearance bonuses and then moan about the money if someone takes your spot in the starting 11. We never guaranteed he would always be number 1 keeper.
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Post by alex1982 on Jul 26, 2011 10:55:35 GMT
I said this when i commented on a post on about his 'twitter status' over a week ago, It will be another abdy situation if it happens, gone but certainly not forgotten,
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 26, 2011 11:49:37 GMT
I think we can confidently expect you and the other members of the Pulice Force will be jumping in at the speed of light onto a thread or post that dares suggest improvement and ruthlessly squashing any idea that TP decisions may be up for discussion and debate by Stoke supporters. Good to see you on duty Inspector Wandonlodge. Will Chief Inspector Tazi and Sargent Daftlad be joining you in suppressing any such treasonable thoughts soon? ;D I agree with your comments Mark,am i though being a tad cynical to think you have become slightly anti TP since your son wasn't offered a contract? Who is he with now btw? No, you are being slow. I have been slightly anti - TP for ten years. I have mellowed a lot in that time. I am now a tolerator. Where have you been?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 26, 2011 11:56:21 GMT
I'd still have Tommy as our number one keeper but if Citeh are willing to pay good money (or do a player exchange?) we could go and get Marcus Hahnemann a free and it could end up being good business for us.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 26, 2011 15:21:07 GMT
I guess it'd be Bellamy or SWP then for Sorro?
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Post by seddonstandviewer on Jul 26, 2011 15:23:30 GMT
Something has just dawned on me here?
When was this contract between Thomas Sorensen and the club agreed re. Wages based on appearance money?
The reason I say that is because Thomas Sorensen agreed to this clause just as much as Stoke offered it to him once upon a time.
I was just wondering 'when'?
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Post by RAF on Jul 26, 2011 15:27:38 GMT
Same thing if he signed his original contract under the expectation that he would play every week. Quite pedantic comeback that. It's pretty obvious what the point being made refers to. The point being, everyone moans about the obscene amount of money players get, yet when the club try and stand by a contract they've negotiated with a player some fans start moaning about it. Sorro negotiated a contract, If he was daft enough to agree a more bonus lucrative contract than a standard wage that's his problem. I'm not fucking moaning about it. I'm pointing out another reason why he would rather sit on Man City's bench than ours. H
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Post by stokie25 on Jul 26, 2011 15:28:38 GMT
Something has just dawned on me here? When was this contract between Thomas Sorensen and the club agreed re. Wages based on appearance money? The reason I say that is because Thomas Sorensen agreed to this clause just as much as Stoke offered it to him once upon a time. I was just wondering 'when'? Good point! Was it when Tommy felt he'd be number one for a good while longer or since Bego mardarsed his place to number one* * I appreciate that Begovic is currently the 'better' of the 2 but we can't deny he sulked his way into favour for us to discover that
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Post by seddonstandviewer on Jul 26, 2011 15:31:39 GMT
Something has just dawned on me here? When was this contract between Thomas Sorensen and the club agreed re. Wages based on appearance money? The reason I say that is because Thomas Sorensen agreed to this clause just as much as Stoke offered it to him once upon a time. I was just wondering 'when'? Good point! Was it when Tommy felt he'd be number one for a good while longer or since Bego mardarsed his place to number one* * I appreciate that Begovic is currently the 'better' of the 2 but we can't deny he sulked his way into favour for us to discover that Or was it the original deal when he was stuck on the bones of his arse in the stiffs at Villa, with 'little old Stoke' the only show in town? In this day and age, I really don't understand footballers sometimes.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 26, 2011 15:34:22 GMT
The last mention of a new contract being signed was November '09.
I don't think he foresaw us signing a keeper who would legitimately challenge his place, so saw the appearance-based element as pretty much a formality.
No.1 slots are normally pretty much set in stone, aren't they?
A No.2 overhauling an experienced, international No.1 who was playing well is pretty much unheard of
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