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Post by march4 on Jun 6, 2011 19:05:35 GMT
Mr Wind and Mr Rain are still important players for us at the Brit.
It would be silly to block them off.
And we are spending £1M on the Brit this summer.
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Jun 6, 2011 19:11:12 GMT
Yeh lets fill the corners in, give the tickets away at a fiver a game and piss the full price payers off! Coates has got it right FFS, now is not the time. Some of you lot need to go to business school or brush up on your maths.
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Post by fentonstokie1 on Jun 6, 2011 19:11:30 GMT
As far as I'm aware the population of the North Staffs conurbation is around 425k, so if you're looking at 10% of that (which I personally think is a bit ambitious) it's well over the current capacity. That's without taking into account exiles and away fans. I've always thought that the Brit was built with a view to increasing the capacity some day should the need arise? If it's not going to happen now then when? i was going for the population of stoke on trent being 250 thousand ish So no-one from South Cheshire, Newcastle & the Staffordshire moorlands region attend matched then?
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Post by ashleyscfc on Jun 6, 2011 19:14:18 GMT
I think some of you need to brush up on your basic comprehension skills. I said give the tickets away too kids try and get them to be the future of the club when we are all dead and gone. The club is only as strong as its supporters. And that would only if seats were left empty in one corner. And they would still spend money at the ground. Just an idea
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Post by badger1863 on Jun 6, 2011 19:14:59 GMT
The club could ask fans to pledge to buy a season ticket in the new stands. If they didn't get enough interested customers then there would be no need to build the stands.
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Jun 6, 2011 19:15:49 GMT
I think some of you need to brush up on your basic comprehension skills. I said give the tickets away too kids try and get them to be the future of the club when we are all dead and gone. The club is only as strong as its supporters. And that would only if seats were left empty in one corner. And they would still spend money at the ground. Just an idea great business plan ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2011 19:17:28 GMT
I know I'm just echoing what I said earlier but when it comes to extending the Brit, we need to leave the scoreboard corner alone and extend the Boothen End. I can't stress how unbelievably great it would look (and sound) and I'm repeating myself in more detail because I want the people with the power who happen to be reading this, to agree and push it when the time inevitably comes. Any talk of identikit and legoland would become ancient history. I know that might not make great business sense but some financial decisions made by the club should overrule the most efficient business route in favour of what would be best for us and our children.
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Post by goodjobson on Jun 6, 2011 19:19:30 GMT
I don't give a toss about this argument.
We are in the Prem most importantly.
The brit is better than other prem stadiums, ie Loftus Road.
Fook the corners, in Peter we trust.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2011 19:23:47 GMT
^^^^edit: and distinguishing the Brit and making it unique would be the final piece in the jigsaw to truly seal our transition from the Vic after a decade and a half, now I know I'm waffling like the mad cunt that I am but this is very important to me and it should be to everyone, how we improve the Brit will leave a lasting legacy for a long time, we need our kids to love it as much as a lot on here loved the Vic.
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Post by fentonstokie1 on Jun 6, 2011 19:32:14 GMT
It's not just the opponent's football skills that the windy Brit fucks up, come on let's get the Boothen corner filled in, cut out that ridiculous wind which helps no-one to play football and get more Boothenenders behind the team. We made nearly enough from the FA Cup run to justify it and a bigger capacity Boothen End would definitely be a boost for the team performances.
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Post by pretzel on Jun 6, 2011 20:02:41 GMT
I was really hoping that SCFC would move positively after the success of this season and at least fill in the scoreboard corner. To me, that would have been a statement of intent but this news, if it's true, smacks of a lack of confidence in the club's future.
As the Sentinel sports team are regular visitors to this site, maybe somebody should start a poll here to see how fans really feel?
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Post by senojbor on Jun 6, 2011 20:11:04 GMT
A maximum capacity of twenty seven and a half thousand is really piss poor for the premiership. We may struggle to fill the place for the visits of Wigan and Reading but sure as hell would for any of the big clubs. There could be an increase of tickets available to away fans to swell the numbers. Manchester and Liverpool's clubs alone would fill the entire south stand. The brit has been at full capacity for league and cup games in the dark days of the lower leagues so it's total rubbish to say the increased capacity wouldn't be used now we're established in the prem. As pointed out by others, for the big sell-out games a lot get lumbered with shite seats and this puts people off returning. It could pay for itself in 3 years if we stay in this league, it's a no brainer for me.
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Jun 6, 2011 20:14:02 GMT
A maximum capacity of twenty seven and a half thousand is really piss poor for the premiership. We may struggle to fill the place for the visits of Wigan and Reading but sure as hell would for any of the big clubs. There could be an increase of tickets available to away fans to swell the numbers. Manchester and Liverpool's clubs alone would fill the entire south stand. The brit has been at full capacity for league and cup games in the dark days of the lower leagues so it's total rubbish to say the increased capacity wouldn't be used now we're established in the prem. As pointed out by others, for the big sell-out games a lot get lumbered with shite seats and this puts people off returning. It could pay for itself in 3 years if we stay in this league, it's a no brainer for me. 3 years? how much are the tickets ???
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Post by foster on Jun 6, 2011 20:20:19 GMT
A maximum capacity of twenty seven and a half thousand is really piss poor for the premiership. We may struggle to fill the place for the visits of Wigan and Reading but sure as hell would for any of the big clubs. There could be an increase of tickets available to away fans to swell the numbers. Manchester and Liverpool's clubs alone would fill the entire south stand. The brit has been at full capacity for league and cup games in the dark days of the lower leagues so it's total rubbish to say the increased capacity wouldn't be used now we're established in the prem. As pointed out by others, for the big sell-out games a lot get lumbered with shite seats and this puts people off returning. It could pay for itself in 3 years if we stay in this league, it's a no brainer for me. 3 years? how much are the tickets ??? 3 posts putting down other peoples suggestions with no argument of your own.
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Jun 6, 2011 20:21:40 GMT
3 years? how much are the tickets ??? 3 posts putting down other peoples suggestions with no argument of your own. read then again chap
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Post by foster on Jun 6, 2011 20:27:47 GMT
3 posts putting down other peoples suggestions with no argument of your own. read then again chap Feel free to quote a suggestion of yours that you've posted in this thread because i was unable to find one.
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Jun 6, 2011 20:29:20 GMT
read then again chap Feel free to quote a suggestion of yours that you've posted in this thread because i was unable to find one. you stated i had had only 3 posts - try again son please
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Post by fentonstokie on Jun 6, 2011 20:38:35 GMT
Mr Wind and Mr Rain are still important players for us at the Brit. It would be silly to block them off. Agree with this 100% Be silly to waste money our cup run this year shows how poorly we are supported. We could even sell out the West Ham game(1/4 final). we've only sold out 3 times in the league this season aint we???
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Post by numpty40 on Jun 6, 2011 20:50:51 GMT
Mr Wind and Mr Rain are still important players for us at the Brit. It would be silly to block them off. Agree with this 100% Be silly to waste money our cup run this year shows how poorly we are supported. We could even sell out the West Ham game(1/4 final). we've only sold out 3 times in the league this season aint we??? As some season ticket holders didn't attend that game I actually got decent seats for the 1/4 final ;D.
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Post by swampySCFC on Jun 6, 2011 20:53:20 GMT
We didnt sell out for Wigan did we????
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Post by tuncaysanli20 on Jun 6, 2011 21:03:42 GMT
its like having your own business, say a factory. why buy 5 new machines if your not going to make money off them?
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 6, 2011 21:05:39 GMT
What is the capacity these days? I thought it was 27500, but wasn't the Chelsea attendance something like 27,568?
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Post by tillyoffenton on Jun 6, 2011 21:39:24 GMT
is it the ground size that gets 3 points each match if so fill all the corners in. if not lets keep the team moving in the right direction. as 4 wolves they only just missed the drop and should be thinking of better players as we know the second season is harder than the first. They could have the best ground in th championship!!!!!!1
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Post by march4 on Jun 6, 2011 21:55:20 GMT
Somehow the Wigan attenedance was reported as being the highest for a game at the Brit in the Prem.
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Post by toddyssilkyskills on Jun 6, 2011 22:06:17 GMT
considering theren is a huge amount of fans out of work at the moment who can't afford to go it's probably sensible to keep it how it is for the moment, when the economy picks up and god help us more jobs arrive in s=o=t then that will be a good time to do it, the people who go reguarly home & Away don't realise how lucky they are to have steady work, i've only just got back into work myself after a lengthy lay-off. I also know a good few Mad Stoke fans that just can't afford it anymore being without work.
The way forward in these difficult economic times is do what they have done in Germany, bring back the terracing with the bars on every row = cheaper prices and more fans.
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Post by heworksardtho on Jun 6, 2011 22:07:40 GMT
the premier dream wearing off and also the football been piss poor this season,so no wonder we cant sell out,who wants to pay big money to watch that ,you cant really blame people for not coming
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Post by toddyssilkyskills on Jun 6, 2011 22:14:22 GMT
The seats could easily be filled most weeks with more imaginitive, less abusive, match day pricing. Its a decision that could easily be seen as displaying a lack of ambition. It's hard to criticise for lack of ambition considering how much has been spent on the squad since we got promoted.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jun 6, 2011 22:28:16 GMT
There are loads of reasons why we don't sell out now but could still have higher attendances with a greater capacity. Speaking from my own experience; sometimes I think if a game will sell out, I won't bother trying. If I can't get more than one seat, mates won't go because they don't want to be by themselves. I know several older people who are put off by the wind and rain, and have said they'd go even if they put a windbreak up. I somehow doubt I'm completely on my own with those factors. Even if they filled in the scoreboard corner only halfway up, and had a windbreak going back the rest of the way from which to hang the scoreboard, it would still be a damn-sight better than it is now! Anyone else hoping that Coatesy might be delaying it in case there's a breakthrough with the Safe Standing campaign?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2011 22:43:58 GMT
I think some people are being harsh on our home crowds. Although we only had 2 or 3 official sell outs almost every game was sold out to home fans bar a few hundred. These are generally odd seats dotted around so a family of four, say, isn't going to get last minute seats together.
Also far more teams were taking the reduced allocation which meant another couple of thousand Stoke fans in the ground for less fashionable fixtures such as Wigan and Fulham. The average attendance was down this season due to a decrease in away followings. The likes of Sunderland, Spurs, Villa, West Brom, Wolves all failed to sell out.
Filling the corner with 2 or 3 thousand extra seats (even with a temporary stand) allows us to give the likes of Liverpool/Man Utd more seats and with correct pricing allows more fans in when games are more or less sold out. If a game against someone like Fulham only attracts 27,000 simply close the temporary stand for that particular game.
If crowds go up the temporary stand becomes permanent and if they don't it gets dismantled. Simple............
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Post by senojbor on Jun 6, 2011 23:21:20 GMT
A maximum capacity of twenty seven and a half thousand is really piss poor for the premiership. We may struggle to fill the place for the visits of Wigan and Reading but sure as hell would for any of the big clubs. There could be an increase of tickets available to away fans to swell the numbers. Manchester and Liverpool's clubs alone would fill the entire south stand. The brit has been at full capacity for league and cup games in the dark days of the lower leagues so it's total rubbish to say the increased capacity wouldn't be used now we're established in the prem. As pointed out by others, for the big sell-out games a lot get lumbered with shite seats and this puts people off returning. It could pay for itself in 3 years if we stay in this league, it's a no brainer for me. 3 years? how much are the tickets ??? 25 sellouts x 3500 people x £35 would generate would generate over 3 million pounds and that is just through gate recipts alone. Throw in everything else people buy on a matchday which Stoke get and it could easily be a lot more. Then there could be sponsors who maybe would be interested, maybe a tad ambitious but nothing wrong with that.
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