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Post by nutterpotter on Jun 6, 2011 8:50:24 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 6, 2011 8:53:13 GMT
Two fans then. Hardly Mori type polling is it. The Sentinel Summer Shit stories start in earnest.
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Post by multiplescoregasms on Jun 6, 2011 8:54:26 GMT
Whoever voted on that is a tosser.
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Post by cheesegrater on Jun 6, 2011 8:55:12 GMT
good, we dont fill the ground all the time any way, so would be a waste of money
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Post by mark71 on Jun 6, 2011 8:55:37 GMT
Just like certain "fans" were opposed to scrapping the ID cards !
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Post by marra315 on Jun 6, 2011 8:58:11 GMT
what fans did they ask , non who acutually sit in the ground !
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 6, 2011 9:00:47 GMT
There’s a case for both sides but to say fans back the decision is just a blatant lie from Spinks. The only conclusion I can draw is that if we don’t do it now it’s pretty obvious that we will never do it.
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Jun 6, 2011 9:01:31 GMT
Makes perfect business sense to me
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 6, 2011 9:01:35 GMT
If not now, when?
The case now is as good as it'll ever be.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2011 9:02:08 GMT
I wouldn't extend it yet.
So make that 3 fans.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 6, 2011 9:06:37 GMT
Baggies are moving to 30,000 Wolves are moving to 32,000 - then 36000 by 2014.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2011 9:07:53 GMT
We should make decisions on what is right for us, not what others are doing.
It should be a decision based on finance and whether it's economically right at this time, I trust Coates to get that call right.
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Post by BeauTDSC on Jun 6, 2011 9:08:43 GMT
Who are these people who seem to speak for everyone ?. The money we lost on the last game of the season would have paid for a corner to be filled in. It's called ambition. Wolves are extending theirs . Its the next step up, gradual progression we are always been told. The money we have spunked up the wall on wages for Davies , Soares , Arismendi etc and you could have filled 2 corners in .
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Post by foster on Jun 6, 2011 9:09:03 GMT
So next season they'll be more fans wanting to go to games but the capacity will stay the same for at least 2 years now.
The law of supply and demand dictates that we'll see an increase in ticket prices as more fans try to get the limited places available.
Then the expansion will happen with the prices remaining the same.
I don't understand why the work couldn't start now and be ready for the 2012/2013 season, in a years time, when it'll be needed.
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Jun 6, 2011 9:09:22 GMT
Baggies are moving to 30,000 Wolves are moving to 32,000 - then 36000 by 2014. They'll have empty seats then ;D
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Post by Eggybread on Jun 6, 2011 9:10:44 GMT
Its a great shame .Its never going to happen I think the ground looks only half finished tbh.O well.Thats Stoke for ya.
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Post by Alvechurch Assassin on Jun 6, 2011 9:11:14 GMT
The Vic in our heyday could always house more than 30k, and that should be the absolute minimum now that we have been in the Prem for 3 seasons. It's not as if we need to build a new tier either, just fill that gaping hole between the Boothen and West Stand.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 6, 2011 9:12:29 GMT
The seats could easily be filled most weeks with more imaginitive, less abusive, match day pricing. Its a decision that could easily be seen as displaying a lack of ambition.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2011 9:12:36 GMT
If we expand the stadium we’ll only see the benefits for a handful of games when the “attractive” fixtures come along.
For the other 80% of the season we’ll just have more empty seats.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 6, 2011 9:14:06 GMT
I haven't even got anecdotal evidence to support this - but there's a perception the kids in the area are coming back into the Stoke fold,as we become a more attractive non glory-hunting option.
And there's nowhere for them to sit at the Brit, as there are often just single seats dotted about the ground for general sale.
Just filling one corner, adding 2500 seats for about 3m ,would do the trick and give a bit of leeway for new attendees to catch the Stoke bug
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Post by foster on Jun 6, 2011 9:17:42 GMT
If we expand the stadium we’ll only see the benefits for a handful of games when the “attractive” fixtures come along. For the other 80% of the season we’ll just have more empty seats. It'll take a season to build anyway. So by the 2012/2013 you would expect us to have been able to increase the fan base, as we have done the past few seasons. It's not that it'll be there tomorrow if they decide to build. No excuse for not doing it now in my opinion. If we improve the team this summer and play more attractive football as we've started to do then we'll definately have more fans wanting to watch us. This is a really poor decision imo.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 6, 2011 9:20:19 GMT
If we expand the stadium we’ll only see the benefits for a handful of games when the “attractive” fixtures come along. For the other 80% of the season we’ll just have more empty seats. This is a really poor decision imo. For me also. The main point for me however is this odious club arse crawling by the Shitenel trying to hoodwink its readers into believing that there is mass fan backing for this when there is no evidence of any such thing.
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Post by PixiePotter on Jun 6, 2011 9:20:55 GMT
The only way we can 'push on' is by extending the brit and filling one or more of the corners in, as Wolves have done.
Very disappointing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2011 9:21:51 GMT
If we expand the stadium we’ll only see the benefits for a handful of games when the “attractive” fixtures come along. For the other 80% of the season we’ll just have more empty seats. It'll take a season to build anyway. So by the 2012/2013 you would expect us to have been able to increase the fan base, as we have done the past few seasons. It's not that it'll be there tomorrow if they decide to build. No excuse for not doing it now in my opinion. If we improve the team this summer and play more attractive football as we've started to do then we'll definately have more fans wanting to watch us. This is a really poor decision imo. We've been in the league 3 seasons, each season better than the one before. You'd think if the fan base was going to increase it would do so in relation to increased success. It could be argued that the demand (for the majority of matches) has actually dropped off slightly.
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Jun 6, 2011 9:24:22 GMT
Wolves average attendance last season was 27695, do you really think they will find another 4305 fans to fill the new seats? I doubt it!
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Post by wembley4372 on Jun 6, 2011 9:27:57 GMT
A decent tannoy system would be a good start
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 6, 2011 9:29:29 GMT
Despite the obvious there are also many fringe benefits, not least aesthetics, acoustics and the chance to right the biggest fuck up of the lot and fuck away supporters off from around the tunnel area.
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Jun 6, 2011 9:29:58 GMT
Agree with WD the stoke.are in thenprem novilty has wore off and the majority of people dont seem interested... Mayve the trip to wembley last season might have re enlighted a few fires but i very much doubt it.. I think 10% of the cities population is probably max turn out...when you consider we are one of few (and the smallest) city with two teams its not a bad effort. We are never goin take away the already glory hunting fans that the 90s created - we forever going to get for the next 10years at least kids at school sayin "well my dad was a united fan"
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Post by Bick on Jun 6, 2011 9:30:01 GMT
3m a corner?!.... Rediculous.
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Post by foster on Jun 6, 2011 9:30:49 GMT
It'll take a season to build anyway. So by the 2012/2013 you would expect us to have been able to increase the fan base, as we have done the past few seasons. It's not that it'll be there tomorrow if they decide to build. No excuse for not doing it now in my opinion. If we improve the team this summer and play more attractive football as we've started to do then we'll definately have more fans wanting to watch us. This is a really poor decision imo. We've been in the league 3 seasons, each season better than the one before. You'd think if the fan base was going to increase it would do so in relation to increased success. It could be argued that the demand (for the majority of matches) has actually dropped off slightly. Season ticket sales have increased each year and i expect the same again for next season. Maybe demand has dropped off for the leftover places because there's less availability of seats together. Every season in the PL is a measure of continued success and if you don't increase the capacity then you'll never know what sort of crowds you'll be able to attract.
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