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Rooney
Apr 4, 2011 22:54:14 GMT
Post by PotteringThrough on Apr 4, 2011 22:54:14 GMT
My swearing on here is not comparable to the subject of this discussion. To put it simply I don't understand your logic, surely all swearing is bad? It's a complete no, all swearing is bad or yeah, swearing is fine. Or is it All swearing is bad, but some swearing is worse than the rest.
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Rooney
Apr 4, 2011 22:56:50 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2011 22:56:50 GMT
Swearing in front of 2 billion( in front of the camera) is nothing short of unforgiveable ...even with consideration of the fact that Rooney is probably the thickest bastuurd on the planet.
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Rooney
Apr 4, 2011 22:57:00 GMT
Post by foster on Apr 4, 2011 22:57:00 GMT
My swearing on here is not comparable to the subject of this discussion. To put it simply I don't understand your logic, surely all swearing is bad? It's a complete no, all swearing is bad or yeah, swearing is fine. Or is it All swearing is bad, but some swearing is worse than the rest. Are you a Vulcan or something?.. Read my posts before you try to be clever. Never said that swearing as a whole was bad. Just in front of kids. Not difficult to understand is it.
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Rooney
Apr 4, 2011 23:01:26 GMT
Post by stokhe on Apr 4, 2011 23:01:26 GMT
he cant get away with it,he's too high profile,now if it was that richards bloke from down the road.
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Rooney
Apr 4, 2011 23:08:58 GMT
Post by danceswithclams on Apr 4, 2011 23:08:58 GMT
it's just a word. i can't believe so many people get offended by it. The pen is mightier than the swordThe penis mightier than the S word? Depends what the S word is really. Shit, shitter, spunktrunpet, spaff cannon and syphilitic gyppo are all good 'uns I like to deploy on a regular basis, sometimes directly into a camera that broadcasts a live feed into every nursery, playgroup and primary school in the UK. I shan't rest until I've created a generation of mealy-mouthed pre-teen fucktards who I'll then deploy to get the backs up of supercilious handwringing cuntbubbles across this sceptred isle.
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Rooney
Apr 4, 2011 23:15:46 GMT
Post by french toast on Apr 4, 2011 23:15:46 GMT
To put it simply I don't understand your logic, surely all swearing is bad? It's a complete no, all swearing is bad or yeah, swearing is fine. Or is it All swearing is bad, but some swearing is worse than the rest. Are you a Vulcan or something?.. Read my posts before you try to be clever. Never said that swearing as a whole was bad. Just in front of kids. Not difficult to understand is it. so swearing at a football match is surely bad because kids are all around you? so yes it is difficult to understand your arguement as you seem to have several going at the same time
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 0:19:32 GMT
Post by Roy Cropper on Apr 5, 2011 0:19:32 GMT
I can understand people being offended as for a 5 year old boy as it's not really any different than it being said to his face. Personally, I've never been too fussed abut swearing, I'd rather somebody take out their aggression/emotion through words rather than through violence.
However, as it's Rooney and he's a twat I don't really care.
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 0:25:27 GMT
Post by onlyonesirstan on Apr 5, 2011 0:25:27 GMT
Swearing is a poor excuse for a poor understanding of the English language.
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 4:04:49 GMT
Post by JoeinOz on Apr 5, 2011 4:04:49 GMT
I was at a game once and there was a bloke with his son who was about six. The bloke was yelling obscenities throughout the game. Mark Stein was subjected to foul racist abuse from the whole crowd and the aforementioned bloke was encouraging his son to do the same. When the son screamed "lanky streak of ni66er piss" at Dave Regis the dad laughed and tousled the lad's hair with affection.
I wonder of those two are shocked and devastated and concerned about kids after what Rooney did.
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finnthedude
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 4:27:57 GMT
Post by finnthedude on Apr 5, 2011 4:27:57 GMT
Surely a knowledge of swearing increases your understanding of the English language. More words to remember innit?
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 5:41:33 GMT
Post by foster on Apr 5, 2011 5:41:33 GMT
Are you a Vulcan or something?.. Read my posts before you try to be clever. Never said that swearing as a whole was bad. Just in front of kids. Not difficult to understand is it. so swearing at a football match is surely bad because kids are all around you? so yes it is difficult to understand your arguement as you seem to have several going at the same time Bauer, you know when you're at primary school and you say something really really stupid and someone then does an impression of you whilst also doing any impression of a mentally disabled person? Well, that's exactly how i feel about you right now. You've read all my posts on this thread and still you keep coming out with the same comment as you came out with on page one. I've clearly stated at least 6 times what the difference is between swearing at the match and what Rooney did - and have in no way contradicted myself. Foster ps -
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 5:46:16 GMT
Post by devonstokie on Apr 5, 2011 5:46:16 GMT
Fuck Rooney and fuck Man Utd, let's get back to talk of Wembley, wheres everyone drinking? heard Leicester Sq is going to be full of Stoke lads. Goooooooooarnnnnnn Stoke.
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 6:15:17 GMT
Post by JoeinOz on Apr 5, 2011 6:15:17 GMT
What Rooney did wasn't a celebration. He acted like some sort of rabid animal and like he'd just been victorious in some sort of gladitorial death match.
Yes he did. And if I'd scored a hat trick to take us from 0-2 down to 3-2 up and in touching distance of the league title that's exactly what I'd do.
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 6:23:17 GMT
Post by foster on Apr 5, 2011 6:23:17 GMT
What Rooney did wasn't a celebration. He acted like some sort of rabid animal and like he'd just been victorious in some sort of gladitorial death match. Yes he did. And if I'd scored a hat trick to take us from 0-2 down to 3-2 up and in touching distance of the league title that's exactly what I'd do. Are you stealing my lines? I'd probably be celebrating with the fans and my team mates rather than swearing at the camera man.
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 6:35:31 GMT
Post by JoeinOz on Apr 5, 2011 6:35:31 GMT
If he scores against Arsenal and yelled "take that Wenger you c**t"
Everyone on here would be laughing about it. ;D
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 7:11:20 GMT
Post by greyman on Apr 5, 2011 7:11:20 GMT
Surely a knowledge of swearing increases your understanding of the English language. More words to remember innit? And still missing the point. It's not about the words, it's about the context. Nothing wrong with swearing. Something wrong with swearing in certain situations. Why is this so difficult?
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 7:49:51 GMT
Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 5, 2011 7:49:51 GMT
Swearing is a poor excuse for a poor understanding of the English language. You're joking aren't you? Fuck must be one of the flexible, most colourful words in the language. Long live fuck.
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 8:05:16 GMT
Post by ColonelMustard on Apr 5, 2011 8:05:16 GMT
a lot of the arguments on this thread are compatible -swearing as a concept is ok and to be expected -going ballistic when scoring a hat trick in those circumstances is ok and to be expected -being angry when you are hounded and slated by the press is ok and to be expected -playing with channeled anger is ok and even admirable -forgetting yourself on the football pitch is ok and to be expected - expressing your anger by foul mouthing the general puplic and an audience of billions, of all ages, is allowing yourself too much freedom, is gratuitous, disrespectful and completely counter productive.
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 8:16:26 GMT
Post by greyman on Apr 5, 2011 8:16:26 GMT
Incidentally, to make a positive point about this. How proud can we be at the way our own players go about the game? Correct me if I am wrong but we haven't had a single player booked for dissent this season. If other players and clubs followed suit, this wouldn't even be an issue for the FA.
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 8:17:42 GMT
Post by Will_75 on Apr 5, 2011 8:17:42 GMT
"I was at a game once and there was a bloke with his son who was about six. The bloke was yelling obscenities throughout the game. Mark Stein was subjected to foul racist abuse from the whole crowd and the aforementioned bloke was encouraging his son to do the same. When the son screamed "lanky streak of ni66er piss" at Dave Regis the dad laughed and tousled the lad's hair with affection.
I wonder of those two are shocked and devastated and concerned about kids after what Rooney did."
Wow. That makes it OK then.
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 9:27:24 GMT
Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 5, 2011 9:27:24 GMT
Hes nowt but a foul mouthed fucking cunt. ;D
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 10:40:07 GMT
Post by JoeinOz on Apr 5, 2011 10:40:07 GMT
Will75, I'm looking at the hypocrisy of people who through football have sworn a lot, some might always use bad language a lot some may of been involved in football fighting but they hear the F word and suddenly get all shocked.
The reaction is to do with Man Yoo and peoples feelings about Rooney as well as protecting children from, something as terrifying as the F word.
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 10:42:56 GMT
Post by french toast on Apr 5, 2011 10:42:56 GMT
so swearing at a football match is surely bad because kids are all around you? so yes it is difficult to understand your arguement as you seem to have several going at the same time Bauer, you know when you're at primary school and you say something really really stupid and someone then does an impression of you whilst also doing any impression of a mentally disabled person? Well, that's exactly how i feel about you right now. You've read all my posts on this thread and still you keep coming out with the same comment as you came out with on page one. I've clearly stated at least 6 times what the difference is between swearing at the match and what Rooney did - and have in no way contradicted myself. Foster ps - Thats funny you tit, I have not once mentioned the crowd at a football match I've always thought you were a tool, and you've now confirmed it.
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 11:36:36 GMT
Post by Davef on Apr 5, 2011 11:36:36 GMT
The issue here is surely the context of the language Rooney used.
Every player swears on the pitch. If they make a mistake or miss a chance they'll swear in frustration, or if a decision goes against them. That's perfectly understandable and it's something will never change.
I don't quite understand why Rooney felt the need to swear at the camera though? He'd just scored a hat-trick after his team were 2-0 down. It should've been one of the best moments of his career, but all this yob can do is snarl and spout his venom to millions watching on the telly. Compare his reaction that of his team mate Hernandez who was genuinely delighted when he scored Man Utd's fourth goal.
Rooney encapsulates perfectly the Man Utd "We'll do what we want" attitude. They think they're untouchable and they need bringing down a peg or two.
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 11:43:35 GMT
Post by french toast on Apr 5, 2011 11:43:35 GMT
Hernandez has no pressure, rooney has lots of pressure.
Every day someone in one of the papers is saying how he is poor.
Compare rooney of a few years back to hernandez if you want a fair comparison
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musfc
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 12:10:45 GMT
Post by musfc on Apr 5, 2011 12:10:45 GMT
I don't quite understand why Rooney felt the need to swear at the camera though? the cameraman in question was shouting "Kiss the camera, kiss the camera" at Rooney as he ran onto the pitch to chase him. The shout by Rooney was probably aimed more at the cameraman than rooney itself. Now SKY have thios silly obsession of running onto the pitch and trying to get players to kiss the camera or scream down it. All since Gerrard done this at old Trafford, for which they use as part of their marketing. Given SKY live broadcast has a 3 second delay to censor succh language/streakers etc, why did SKY show the footage? Why did Match of the day also show the incident in a recorded highlights show, to then appologise for the language after they showed it? They even repeated it on a Sunday morning when kids were likely to be watching. All part of a media agenda. Gives them something to talk about. The TV cameras should not be allowed onto the field of play after a goal. If a player was banned every time they appeared on TV swearing, then the game would struggle to have many players playing at all. There is a need for a respect campaign, but it needs to have a line. it seems its OK to take an air rifle into the dressing room and shoot a work experiece kid, but if you happen to swear its on par with a red card. As for swearing. is this a football only problem or is this a society problem? TV happy to braodcast films with swearing in and reality TV such as Hells Kitchen or Big Brother, even gloryfying on cooking show as the F-Word. Football grounds are rife with swearing and any parent knows that. the worst place for swaeing at football is any junior kids game where the parents spend 90 minutes swaeraing at other kids, other parents, referees and even their own kids. If the FA want respect, they need to do something aboth that.
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 12:11:29 GMT
Post by foster on Apr 5, 2011 12:11:29 GMT
Bauer, you know when you're at primary school and you say something really really stupid and someone then does an impression of you whilst also doing any impression of a mentally disabled person? Well, that's exactly how i feel about you right now. You've read all my posts on this thread and still you keep coming out with the same comment as you came out with on page one. I've clearly stated at least 6 times what the difference is between swearing at the match and what Rooney did - and have in no way contradicted myself. Foster ps - Thats funny you tit, I have not once mentioned the crowd at a football match I've always thought you were a tool, and you've now confirmed it. That's a shame because i really respect your opinion.
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 12:44:00 GMT
Post by greyman on Apr 5, 2011 12:44:00 GMT
I don't quite understand why Rooney felt the need to swear at the camera though? the cameraman in question was shouting "Kiss the camera, kiss the camera" at Rooney as he ran onto the pitch to chase him. The shout by Rooney was probably aimed more at the cameraman than rooney itself. Now SKY have thios silly obsession of running onto the pitch and trying to get players to kiss the camera or scream down it. All since Gerrard done this at old Trafford, for which they use as part of their marketing. Given SKY live broadcast has a 3 second delay to censor succh language/streakers etc, why did SKY show the footage? Why did Match of the day also show the incident in a recorded highlights show, to then appologise for the language after they showed it? They even repeated it on a Sunday morning when kids were likely to be watching. All part of a media agenda. Gives them something to talk about. The TV cameras should not be allowed onto the field of play after a goal. . You've just made that up. The only thing that has happened here is that a thick bastard has decided two days after the Premier League announce a new respect campaign, including being specifically aimed at cutting foul and abusive language, that it's a good idea to run up to a camera and shout 'fuck off' into it. Even if you think that's OK, he deserves a ban to try to get him to think.
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 12:55:03 GMT
Post by PotteringThrough on Apr 5, 2011 12:55:03 GMT
Are you a Vulcan or something?.. Read my posts before you try to be clever. Never said that swearing as a whole was bad. Just in front of kids. Without meaning to be picky - Surely any player caught swearing or mouthing an obscentity on camera should therefore be punished? Or as Rooney didn't actually swear at a child, he swore at a bloke who put a camera in his face he has done nothing wrong and it's the broadcasters that should be at fault? For me the camera man shouldn't be running round trying to get as close to the action as possible with a mic because it is obvious there is going to be some choice language used and therefore there is a chance it will be broadcast whilst kids are watching. It's easy to be critical of the players in this situation but the man is only trying to do his job.
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Rooney
Apr 5, 2011 12:59:44 GMT
Post by paddyfromhanley on Apr 5, 2011 12:59:44 GMT
yes there does seem a bit of pattern imerging here since the gerrard incident. but to say that the cameraman was screaming "kiss the camera" to me does not sound true whatsoever! i could easily hear rooney shout F*** OFF! to me,(cus yes, it was directed to me and all the other veiwers, for some stupid reason) but i cant say i heard the cameraman saying "kiss the camera" to me, thats the difference. swearing to other players, refferee's etc is one thing.but saying it to the whole world is slightly different.and pretty low.
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