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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 20, 2010 11:38:39 GMT
Agree mate 100%. I am attempting to put the TP cap on ;D KJ is superb in the air. With 2 wingers is he wanting to use his heading ability to score goals from the wingers which he "may" struggle to do as much if he is withdrawn and we are hitting teams fast on the break ? God knows really because i am FIRMLY in the KJ / Ric camp but just attempting to see why TP is thinking on these lines I think that KJ has got more than enough pace to win the initial ball in the air, provide a flick on (or a lay off) to the wingers and then high tail into the box in anticipation of the forthcoming cross.
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Post by PickSCFC on Sept 20, 2010 11:42:45 GMT
Oi, Spencer and whom the fuck you think you are stating how you believe i'll think it is?. Fuck you and fuck off. enjoy your ban ;D
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Post by sjohank on Sept 20, 2010 11:52:29 GMT
So many words, so many thoughts.... ??? What's the problem??? .............................Sorro............................. Deano..........Huth..........ShawX..........Higgy ...........................Delap............................... Pennant..............Eidur.....................Ethers ................Ricardo........Kenwyne................. COME ON TP - we need GOALS, then use the QUALITY we have - from the start of EVERY GAME home and away!!! behave yourself, we will never play that side and rightly so You sound like TP! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2010 12:01:14 GMT
after following this thread i feel that spencer should have known better when it came to his posting that 'if we were to follow tazi's ultimate conclusion it'll be a pairing of jones and gudjohnsen'.
It's wrong that you should assume and then post what someone doesn't even want to see and that's perhaps the reason 'wrongly i might add' you got the abuse your way.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 20, 2010 12:13:35 GMT
after following this thread i feel that spencer should have known better when it came to his posting that 'if we were to follow tazi's ultimate conclusion it'll be a pairing of jones and gudjohnsen'. It's wrong that you should assume and then post what someone doesn't even want to see and that's perhaps the reason 'wrongly i might add' you got the abuse your way. With respect chap ... I've politely exchanged ideas with tazi on this thread and then done nothing more, than to suggest to him (and anybody else reading the thread), that if his claim that Walters (rather than KJ) has to play in the hole is correct, then ultimately we could end up seeing a strike partnership of Walters and Eidur. I don't think that will happen and indeed that in itself, I would suggest, calls into question the accuracy of tazi's original contention. If he, or indeed anybody else would like to challenge my point, then I'm more than happy to continue debating the issue in a civil and courteous manner.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Sept 20, 2010 12:17:10 GMT
That's all fair enough PB and I broadly agree with you, however when Eidur is fully fit, the manager is going to play Kenwyne behind him ... so why not play KJ in that position now? I've no idea what is going to become of Gudjohnsson, I just know that we are constantly going to face the problem of being outnumbered in the middle against 4-5-1's. For my money we should just get Jones playing the mama role as God TP intended it, stick Ric in and be done with it. When gudjohnsson finally gets fit then he might displace Ric. It might not stand up to scrutiny (although it has before), but I think we can get away with being outnumbered when we have someone with the engine of whitehead in midfield and wingers who will track back. That way we get to play OUR game every week whatever formation the opposition decide upon.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2010 12:18:05 GMT
Jones is undroppable up top. Quite a lot of the rest falls into place. Thing is, if you follow tazi's logic that we HAVE to start with Walters when play with two wingers, then what happen's when Eidur's fully fit? He's certainly not going to be running around doing the dirty work in the same way. If you take tazi's argument to it's ultimate conclusion, then we're looking at a Walters/Gudjohnson partnership in the not too distant future. Please read your quote above where you say 'we're looking at'. Now you're saying 'we could end up'. Could you please clarify once and for all exactly what you mean.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2010 12:18:33 GMT
after following this thread i feel that spencer should have known better when it came to his posting that 'if we were to follow tazi's ultimate conclusion it'll be a pairing of jones and gudjohnsen'. It's wrong that you should assume and then post what someone doesn't even want to see and that's perhaps the reason 'wrongly i might add' you got the abuse your way. Welcome back Tazi ;D
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 20, 2010 12:19:32 GMT
Thing is, if you follow tazi's logic that we HAVE to start with Walters when play with two wingers, then what happen's when Eidur's fully fit? He's certainly not going to be running around doing the dirty work in the same way. If you take tazi's argument to it's ultimate conclusion, then we're looking at a Walters/Gudjohnson partnership in the not too distant future. Please read your quote above where you say 'we're looking at'. Now you're saying 'we could end up'. Could you please clarify once and for all exactly what you mean. It's fairly self-explanatory, Taz ;D
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 20, 2010 12:22:04 GMT
That's all fair enough PB and I broadly agree with you, however when Eidur is fully fit, the manager is going to play Kenwyne behind him ... so why not play KJ in that position now? I've no idea what is going to become of Gudjohnsson, I just know that we are constantly going to face the problem of being outnumbered in the middle against 4-5-1's. For my money we should just get Jones playing the mama role as God TP intended it, stick Ric in and be done with it. When gudjohnsson finally gets fit then he might displace Ric. It might not stand up to scrutiny (although it has before), but I think we can get away with being outnumbered when we have someone with the engine of whitehead in midfield and wingers who will track back. That way we get to play OUR game every week whatever formation the opposition decide upon. Amen to that brother.
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Post by coggy on Sept 20, 2010 12:25:09 GMT
Is Taz really Hackett after the quick name change ;D
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Post by leftsideboothen on Sept 20, 2010 12:29:51 GMT
KJ is playing in Fullers position and scoring goals. We all assumed he would be MWG, (Mama with goals), but it isnt shaping up like this. Unless Rics fitness is preventing him from playing 90 mins then it looks like we will only see the KJ Ric partnership in the last 30 minutes of games in which we are not winning. In a 4-4-1-1 KJ is playing at the top and doesnt look like its gonna change for the forseable.
Steve
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2010 12:31:12 GMT
Yes but it is still Walters keeping ric out of the team because KJ could easily drop back into the role Walters is playing to make room for Ric!
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2010 12:32:17 GMT
after following this thread i feel that spencer should have known better when it came to his posting that 'if we were to follow tazi's ultimate conclusion it'll be a pairing of jones and gudjohnsen'. It's wrong that you should assume and then post what someone doesn't even want to see and that's perhaps the reason 'wrongly i might add' you got the abuse your way. There is absolutely no justification for the abuse that you threw Paul Spencer's way. None whatsover.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 20, 2010 12:32:36 GMT
Well Mr Pulis insinuated, before the Wolves game, that Ric and KJ were an ideal pairing.
He wasn't wrong.
For 10 minutes v Wolves before KJ got injured they were pretty much unplayable and for 30 minutes for Villa last week, it was pretty much the same.
KJ is no Ricardo Fuller. He isn't as quick, he can't do things in tight corners like Ric, and he isn't likely to get us a goal from absolutely nothing. KJ is an excellent target man and a very good centre forward but he is no Ricardo.
They are an ideal partnership and the sooner they are utilised together from the start of every game, the better we will be for it.
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Post by nickscfc on Sept 20, 2010 12:32:43 GMT
Ken and Ric did start together against Wolves though.
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Post by leftsideboothen on Sept 20, 2010 12:34:06 GMT
As long as KJ is playing there and scoring goals I cant see it rob. I too would love to see KJ and Ric together is the way you suggest but I think that its not gonna happen unless KJ goals dry up.
Steve
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Post by lordb on Sept 20, 2010 12:34:24 GMT
when Ric came on v Villa KJ instantly dropped back to 'the Mama role' (formally the GNW role & before that,at Gillingham,the John Gayle role).
I'd guess TP WILL pair Ric with KJ for the majority of games over the eason.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2010 12:50:25 GMT
As long as KJ is playing there and scoring goals I cant see it rob. I too would love to see KJ and Ric together is the way you suggest but I think that its not gonna happen unless KJ goals dry up. Steve Wasn't KJ playing in the Mama role when he equalised against Villa?
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Post by sjohank on Sept 20, 2010 12:51:43 GMT
when Ric came on v Villa KJ instantly dropped back to 'the Mama role' (formally the GNW role & before that,at Gillingham,the John Gayle role). I'd guess TP WILL pair Ric with KJ for the majority of games over the eason. Yess mylord - TP is a wise man, and will play Ric+KJ as our frontmen! I also think/hope TP is a brave man, and will go for .............................Sorro............................. Deano..........Huth..........ShawX..........Higgy ...........................Delap............................... Pennant..............Eidur.....................Ethers behind the Carribean duo when the time is right...
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Post by PickSCFC on Sept 20, 2010 12:54:14 GMT
theres a 6 page thread covering the same issues as this ;D
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 20, 2010 13:00:40 GMT
Well Mr Pulis insinuated, before the Wolves game, that Ric and KJ were an ideal pairing. He wasn't wrong. For 10 minutes v Wolves before KJ got injured they were pretty much unplayable and for 30 minutes for Villa last week, it was pretty much the same. KJ is no Ricardo Fuller. He isn't as quick, he can't do things in tight corners like Ric, and he isn't likely to get us a goal from absolutely nothing. KJ is an excellent target man and a very good centre forward but he is no Ricardo. They are an ideal partnership and the sooner they are utilised together from the start of every game, the better we will be for it. Spot on. It should be noted also that Walters isn't keeping Ric out, unless that is, Walters is selecting the team.
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Post by johnnydenz on Sept 20, 2010 15:40:25 GMT
after following this thread i feel that spencer should have known better when it came to his posting that 'if we were to follow tazi's ultimate conclusion it'll be a pairing of jones and gudjohnsen'. It's wrong that you should assume and then post what someone doesn't even want to see and that's perhaps the reason 'wrongly i might add' you got the abuse your way. There is absolutely no justification for the abuse that you threw Paul Spencer's way. None whatsover. I can assure you that you have accused the wrong person. It was tazi and NOT thatz not a bus
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 20, 2010 15:40:31 GMT
Anyone know roughly how many games Walters has played up front at Ipswich in the last 4 seasons?
I'd guess it'd be single figures in that position since the winter of 2006 in the bottom league at Chester?
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Post by PickSCFC on Sept 20, 2010 15:42:34 GMT
There is absolutely no justification for the abuse that you threw Paul Spencer's way. None whatsover. I can assure you that you have accused the wrong person. It was tazi and NOT thatz not a bus ;D ;D ;D whoooosh
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Post by johnnydenz on Sept 20, 2010 16:12:28 GMT
I can assure you that you have accused the wrong person. It was tazi and NOT thatz not a bus ;D ;D ;D whoooosh get a life !!!!!!!
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Post by PickSCFC on Sept 20, 2010 16:13:49 GMT
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2010 16:14:34 GMT
There is absolutely no justification for the abuse that you threw Paul Spencer's way. None whatsover. I can assure you that you have accused the wrong person. It was tazi and NOT thatz not a bus Fair enough. If I have then I apologise unreservedly. I'm afraid that account will have to remain suspended though.
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Post by PickSCFC on Sept 20, 2010 16:17:02 GMT
I can assure you that you have accused the wrong person. It was tazi and NOT thatz not a bus Fair enough. If I have then I apologise unreservedly. I'm afraid that account will have to remain suspended though. it was pretty obvious to me that it was a double account of tazi has tazi been banned aswell?
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Post by johnnydenz on Sept 20, 2010 16:29:29 GMT
I can assure you that you have accused the wrong person. It was tazi and NOT thatz not a bus Fair enough. If I have then I apologise unreservedly. I'm afraid that account will have to remain suspended though. apology accepted it would greatly appreciated if you could review the thatznotabus suspension asap thank you
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