|
|
Post by mermaidsal on Sept 16, 2010 12:13:13 GMT
Just looking at this a bit objectively... ok Tunch has plenty style to him but actually, apart from the occasional piece of cynical badge-kissing and half a dozen performances that showed quality but didn't deliver, what has the guy actually done for this football club??
|
|
|
|
Post by nickscfc on Sept 16, 2010 12:14:21 GMT
He's started about 11 league games.
|
|
|
|
Post by scfcloyalist on Sept 16, 2010 12:14:22 GMT
I'll answer your question when he actually gets a chance
too and a run of games, before then shitbin admin.
|
|
|
|
Post by stokelad84 on Sept 16, 2010 12:15:17 GMT
Ran down the tunnel 3 times, drove away from the ground when not picked and stopped the ball boy from doing there job.
But he did score a hat trick against Man Utd once...
|
|
|
|
Post by ProudPotter17 on Sept 16, 2010 12:18:29 GMT
He has started 15-20 games, scored 6 goals and made 4 assists.
He has a brilliant football brain and last season (when we were minus Pennant, Jones, Gudjohnsen and Wilson) he was one of our few creative players.
IMO, he should start with Jones as I think Fuller is a better impact sub'.
|
|
|
|
Post by jonnynico on Sept 16, 2010 12:19:54 GMT
I'll answer your question when he actually gets a chance too and a run of games, before then shitbin admin. spot on. |
|
|
|
Post by apb1 on Sept 16, 2010 12:22:53 GMT
There's been about 50 threads on this, read them if you want people's opinions and counter-arguments
|
|
|
|
Post by KyleLightbulb on Sept 16, 2010 12:23:08 GMT
Ran down the tunnel 3 times, drove away from the ground when not picked and stopped the ball boy from doing there job. But he did score a hat trick against Man Utd once... Because if you had a day off work I'm sure you'd stick around to support the lads....  |
|
|
|
Post by nicknacknoo on Sept 16, 2010 13:27:06 GMT
because for me he heralded a false dawn for stoke,he was the first exciting signing for years.....i have nt given up hope yet,he is a class act
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2010 13:38:49 GMT
He is so good that the likes of Barcelona, Inter Milan, Real Madrid etc will all be queing up for him in the January transfer window. |
|
|
|
Post by ProudPotter17 on Sept 16, 2010 13:46:50 GMT
He is so good that the likes of Barcelona, Inter Milan, Real Madrid etc will all be queing up for him in the January transfer window. No, but he will leave to a premier leauge club and he will be great for them if given a run of games. |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2010 13:49:24 GMT
Just looking at this a bit objectively... ok Tunch has plenty style to him but actually, apart from the occasional piece of cynical badge-kissing and half a dozen performances that showed quality but didn't deliver, what has the guy actually done for this football club?? I think it's down to his hair, it makes him look like the messiah. In reality of course he's just a very naughty boy. |
|
|
|
Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Sept 16, 2010 13:49:34 GMT
Tuncay, playing for Turkish club and national sides was was one of the most iconic players in world football.
He joined Stoke at somewhere near his peak but, for reasons we won't go into here, he's never had an extended run in the side to prove his undoubted qualities.
Just feel sorry for the guy (notwithstanding £40k a week), that he's still bench warming for us and I doubt with our system firmly in place he ever will get that extended chance.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2010 13:53:19 GMT
Sal, That is very harsh, especially given the thread you have recently started on the GDB regarding use of language. I expected more from you. WD ON EDIT: My apologies, I misread the title of the thread |
|
|
|
Post by Targaryen Stokie on Sept 16, 2010 13:55:40 GMT
Sal, That is very harsh, especially given the thread you have recently started on the GDB regarding use of language. I expected more from you. WD ON EDIT: My apologies, I misread the title of the thread ;D |
|
|
|
Post by thischarmingmanc on Sept 16, 2010 13:59:09 GMT
He has promised alot and has never been given the chance to deliver. Stoke City and Tuncay hasnt worked, and imho thats 100% down to Tony Pulis and not Tuncay. He has never had an extended run in the team and never played in his best position (attacking midfiled), he also was dropped to fit mama back into the team, which must of been frustrating. Would he be as good as we hoped? We will never know, but thats not really Tuncays fault. If I had been treated as he is has been at work, I would have a much worse attitude than he has had. He also just seems an enthuseastic passionate and likeable person. Im sure the 'Pulis can do no wrong guys' will freak at this posts, but despite all the good Tony has done for the club, he comes out with very little credit from the Tuncay saga Just looking at this a bit objectively... ok Tunch has plenty style to him but actually, apart from the occasional piece of cynical badge-kissing and half a dozen performances that showed quality but didn't deliver, what has the guy actually done for this football club?? |
|
|
|
Post by elystokie on Sept 16, 2010 14:06:33 GMT
He has promised alot and has never been given the chance to deliver. Stoke City and Tuncay hasnt worked, and imho thats 100% down to Tony Pulis and not Tuncay. He has never had an extended run in the team and never played in his best position (attacking midfiled), he also was dropped to fit mama back into the team, which must of been frustrating. Would he be as good as we hoped? We will never know, but thats not really Tuncays fault. If I had been treated as he is has been at work, I would have a much worse attitude than he has had. He also just seems an enthuseastic passionate and likeable person. Im sure the 'Pulis can do no wrong guys' will freak at this posts, but despite all the good Tony has done for the club, he comes out with very little credit from the Tuncay saga Just looking at this a bit objectively... ok Tunch has plenty style to him but actually, apart from the occasional piece of cynical badge-kissing and half a dozen performances that showed quality but didn't deliver, what has the guy actually done for this football club?? Totally agree TCM, I think his ideal slot would be just behind the front two, but as I've got more chance of shagging Kylie than seeing Stoke play that way I guess we'll never know. Criminal waste of talent imo. |
|
|
|
Post by ColonelMustard on Sept 16, 2010 14:12:02 GMT
The cult of Tuncay? Do they meet in a darkened tunnel?
|
|
4372stokie
Lads'n'Dads
I cried when he left
Posts: 68
|
Post by 4372stokie on Sept 16, 2010 14:14:59 GMT
Fuller is still the difference to stop us being a very predictable attacking side. With him playing (and in the mood..) ANYTHING can happen. He doesnt score enough goals thats for sure but hopefully with Jones, Walters, Tuncay, Etherington, Gudjohnson, etc as options we should be ok.. I would play him every week. My favourite player since early eighties bar none. ;D
Catch 22 with Tunny..he hasnt had a run in the side so i am still waiting for him to shine but he needs games to shine!!
|
|
|
|
Post by thischarmingmanc on Sept 16, 2010 14:22:54 GMT
I dont think he will get them, its obvious Pulis doesnt have a plan on how to use Tuncay. Either he was a panic buy or he wasn't a Pulis buy. Shame! Its a waste for the players, its a waste for the club. I think fuller and Tuncay would of been a great partnership, Fuller playing the channels and Tuncay playing deeper in the spaces he makes. But it means balls played into the channels and balls played to feet. Not center backs at full back playing hopeful 60 yards punts, towards tuncays head Fuller is still the difference to stop us being a very predictable attacking side. With him playing (and in the mood..) ANYTHING can happen. He doesnt score enough goals thats for sure but hopefully with Jones, Walters, Tuncay, Etherington, Gudjohnson, etc as options we should be ok.. I would play him every week. My favourite player since early eighties bar none. ;D Catch 22 with Tunny..he hasnt had a run in the side so i am still waiting for him to shine but he needs games to shine!! |
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Sept 16, 2010 14:45:25 GMT
Please remind me again what Tuncay contributed to Middlesborough in their relegation season?
All this nonsense that it is 100% TP's fault is laughable. I bet that TP picks up a very handy bonus (equivalent to perhaps 40 years annual salary for the average Stokie) if he keeps Stoke in the premier league. Does anyone here really believe that he is going to put that at risk if he truly had a superstar that could work wonders?
Obviously TP, (who has better qualifications and experience at it than any of us), has not seen the final product on the field or on the training ground. That is mostly Tuncay's fault. Let's move on and support the elements that are really important to our success, not some disgruntled player who has produced virtually nothing of substance for Stoke.
|
|
|
|
Post by jay1610 on Sept 16, 2010 14:51:08 GMT
He is so good that the likes of Barcelona, Inter Milan, Real Madrid etc will all be queing up for him in the January transfer window. No, but he will leave to a premier leauge club and he will be great for them if given a run of games. Just like he was great at Middlesbrough, firing them home, laying them on a plate. Hang on.. Middlesbrough got relegated! |
|
|
|
Post by u2oxeterstokie on Sept 16, 2010 14:51:51 GMT
Please remind me again what Tuncay contributed to Middlesborough in their relegation season? Name a Middlesborough player that contributed anything during that season. Not just down to Tunny was it? ??? |
|
|
|
Post by thischarmingmanc on Sept 16, 2010 14:56:16 GMT
because he has a rigid system, and Tuncay doesn't fit the system. It doesn't mean he doesnt rate Tuncay, it means Tuncay doesn't fit his system. Thats why he says nice things (he knows Tuncay is a good player), but tuncay doesnt get his chances. I also think Tuncay doesnt take tp's instructions well and plays in too free a style for pulis. As I said I dont think tuncay was a considered TP purchase, either a painc buy by TP or bought by someone else at the club after TP's preffered buys didnt come off last minute. Please remind me again what Tuncay contributed to Middlesborough in their relegation season? All this nonsense that it is 100% TP's fault is laughable. I bet that TP picks up a very handy bonus (equivalent to perhaps 40 years annual salary for the average Stokie) if he keeps Stoke in the premier league. Does anyone here really believe that he is going to put that at risk if he truly had a superstar that could work wonders? Obviously TP, (who has better qualifications and experience at it than any of us), has not seen the final product on the field or on the training ground. That is mostly Tuncay's fault. Let's move on and support the elements that are really important to our success, not some disgruntled player who has produced virtually nothing of substance for Stoke. |
|
|
|
Post by thepremierbanksy on Sept 16, 2010 15:00:32 GMT
He doesn't really fit our system does he? And the bottom line is that he's never been so good that it would warrant us changing to accomodate him, whether WfW etc think he is"World class" or not.
I've always thought he can make a good fist of the Fuller role if given a chance, we've seen him play well as a striker alongside marlon king for 'boro before, but then fuller was barely out injured or suspended last season so he never got much of a chance there.
He was never going to get an attacking central midfield role in our system as it would probably pull Pulisball apart at the seams, and on the few occasions he got time on the pitch as a winger he did look lightweight and a little to careless about trying to skin players in the middle of the park which was always going to put him in TP's bad books, and to be honest annoyed me too sometimes, especially when he would try and beat two players when simple passes were available, I guess that is a symptom of trying too hard to get back into the side.
I think the last option that many would like to have seen tried would be him and Fuller up front together when we were short of target men, such as around christmas last season when beattie was fat and had been nutted, kitson was in purgatory and mama had barely come back from injury. I'm not convinced it would work, but it would have been worth a throw of the dice. Regrettable situation maybe but I'm not going to lose too much sleep over it.
Whilst he can do a lot of things that no-one else can, hence why there is a bit of a cult for him on here, he also does not (probably rather than can not) do some things that the 'plodders' of the squad do, and is therefore never going to have TP hanging his hat on him.
|
|
|
|
Post by jay1610 on Sept 16, 2010 15:02:25 GMT
Please remind me again what Tuncay contributed to Middlesborough in their relegation season? Name a Middlesborough player that contributed anything during that season. Not just down to Tunny was it? ??? True, neither does it make him the world beater he is deemed to be by some Stoke fans. Running around, kicking the posts, all good and gets some people's pulse going. However, if you don't take your chances ( easy ones at that, in the Tottenham game) then you don't deserve to play. I'd rather see Fuller play who I know won't run around to whip up a frenzy with the fans. He'll do it in the penalty area instead. |
|
|
|
Post by SuperRickyFuller on Sept 16, 2010 15:06:49 GMT
No, but he will leave to a premier leauge club and he will be great for them if given a run of games. Just like he was great at Middlesbrough, firing them home, laying them on a plate. Hang on.. Middlesbrough got relegated! Didn't realise Tuncay was at fault for an entire team getting relegated  |
|
|
|
Post by u2oxeterstokie on Sept 16, 2010 15:06:54 GMT
Name a Middlesborough player that contributed anything during that season. Not just down to Tunny was it? ??? True, neither does it make him the world beater he is deemed to be by some Stoke fans. Running around, kicking the posts, all good and gets some people's pulse going. However, if you don't take your chances ( easy ones at that, in the Tottenham game) then you don't deserve to play. I'd rather see Fuller play who I know won't run around to whip up a frenzy with the fans. He'll do it in the penalty area instead. I think you'll find Fuller misses just as many as Tuncay (percentage wise) and other players have missed sitters to but are still picked for the next game. |
|
|
|
Post by ColonelMustard on Sept 16, 2010 15:08:46 GMT
The cult of Tom Soares just never took off.
|
|
|
|
Post by thischarmingmanc on Sept 16, 2010 15:10:27 GMT
because we know he is a little less than average .... Tuncay will always be the great unknown. The cult of Tom Soares just never took off. |
|
