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Post by ProudPotter17 on Sept 16, 2010 15:13:31 GMT
No, but he will leave to a premier leauge club and he will be great for them if given a run of games. Just like he was great at Middlesbrough, firing them home, laying them on a plate. Hang on.. Middlesbrough got relegated! Huth has been relegated, Wilson also, yet they are vital players and will be in years to come.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Sept 16, 2010 15:24:21 GMT
Tuncay probably has more chance of playing with Jones here ironically, but that won't be enough to stop him leaving in January. If we can get a decent full back in exchange then I'd be happy. Come the end of this season we may then have to seriously address finding a successor to Ric which will be extremely difficult.
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Post by Roy Cropper on Sept 16, 2010 15:27:31 GMT
Just looking at this a bit objectively... ok Tunch has plenty style to him but actually, apart from the occasional piece of cynical badge-kissing and half a dozen performances that showed quality but didn't deliver, what has the guy actually done for this football club?? I think it's down to his hair, it makes him look like the messiah. In reality of course he's just a very naughty boy. ;D
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Post by ColonelMustard on Sept 16, 2010 15:36:57 GMT
because we know he is a little less than average .... Tuncay will always be the great unknown. The cult of Tom Soares just never took off. The only great unknown is the reason he is here at all.
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Post by jay1610 on Sept 16, 2010 16:14:44 GMT
Just like he was great at Middlesbrough, firing them home, laying them on a plate. Hang on.. Middlesbrough got relegated! Huth has been relegated, Wilson also, yet they are vital players and will be in years to come. Don't seem to remember a leaky defence being Mboro's problem though. As for Wilson I can't comment on his ability yet.
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Post by nickscfc on Sept 16, 2010 16:21:27 GMT
Huth has been relegated, Wilson also, yet they are vital players and will be in years to come. Don't seem to remember a leaky defence being Mboro's problem though. As for Wilson I can't comment on his ability yet. What about Stewert Downing...he got relegated so hes wank right? Why did we even consider buying Wilson he got relegated he MUST be total shit. Also of course we must not forget Adam Johnson got relegated. But of course hes total shite. Tuncay is a great player... he just needs games.
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Post by march4 on Sept 16, 2010 16:38:48 GMT
Feckless waster, disloyal diletante - end of analysis.
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Sept 16, 2010 16:41:25 GMT
Feckless waster, disloyal diletante - end of analysis. I agree to disagree
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Post by march4 on Sept 16, 2010 16:42:14 GMT
Feckless waster, disloyal diletante - end of analysis. I agree to disagree ;D
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Post by berniescfc on Sept 16, 2010 17:22:43 GMT
Feckless waster, disloyal diletante - end of analysis. Pathetic moronic post
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Post by truckerged on Sept 16, 2010 17:25:45 GMT
tuncay plays for tuncay and no one else! his misses v wolves&spurs have allready cost us two points. a fact not gone unnoticed by tp. fantastic player on his day but for me he is a luxury we dont need. he has had one good game for us [fulham] sorry tuncs but you and stoke city need a divorce p.s. wendy will go ballistic when she reads this p.p.s i do wonder if he could do a job in the middle?
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Post by march4 on Sept 16, 2010 17:26:17 GMT
Feckless waster, disloyal diletante - end of analysis. Pathetic moronic post But accurate. Why do you still have any respect left for a man who has stormed off the pitch 3 times and refused to watch his team mates on Monday in a key game even though his manger was affected by bereavement? This isn't a rhetorical question as I really would like to know.
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Sept 16, 2010 17:33:39 GMT
But accurate. Why do you still have any respect left for a man who has stormed off the pitch 3 times and refused to watch his team mates on Monday in a key game even though his manger was affected by bereavement? This isn't a rhetorical question as I really would like to know. March4 mate, I'd like to answer that if I may Yes Tuncay walked down the tunnel after being subed but thats the way he is, he has publically stated (and backed by Pulis) that he gets frustrated as he feels he did not play well enough, that coupled with his Turkish temper (they are known for it) causes the actions he takes. Yes he got in his car and drove home before the match against Villa, did he know Pulis was going o turn up, probably not. He was given the night off, if your boss gave you a day off on full pay would you hang around for the duration of the shift and watch your workmates? I doubt it mate. We all have family lives to.
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Post by march4 on Sept 16, 2010 17:38:47 GMT
But accurate. Why do you still have any respect left for a man who has stormed off the pitch 3 times and refused to watch his team mates on Monday in a key game even though his manger was affected by bereavement? This isn't a rhetorical question as I really would like to know. March4 mate, I'd like to answer that if I may Yes Tuncay walked down the tunnel after being subed but thats the way he is, he has publically stated (and backed by Pulis) that he gets frustrated as he feels he did not play well enough, that coupled with his Turkish temper (they are known for it) causes the actions he takes. Yes he got in his car and drove home before the match against Villa, did he know Pulis was going o turn up, probably not. He was given the night off, if your boss gave you a day off on full pay would you hang around for the duration of the shift and watch your workmates? I doubt it mate. We all have family lives to. Of course you can answer. I do expect a footballer to stay and watch his team mates; they are hardly over worked and the ethos of team togetherness is a vital element at any club. I actually found this action more disturbing than his tunnel antics. If I ask my employees to turn up at a corporate event, they can't all do the presentations, but I would be very annoyed if any slipped away and not gave moral support. You might argue, that Tuncay is a typical modern footballer, but I feel he is going beyond even these levels of behaviour.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2010 17:41:36 GMT
I like Tuncay and he's clearly a quality player, but I dodn't see what he's done in a Stoke shirt to become the God he has in some peoples' eyes.
He's had some good games and some very poor ones, and surely that can't be ALL the manager's fault can it?
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Post by tazi on Sept 16, 2010 17:41:36 GMT
With all the sitters he's missed is it any wonder he didn't even make the bench?.
Oh, but he needs a run of games in order to tap in from all of 2 yards doesn't he?.
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Post by march4 on Sept 16, 2010 17:42:56 GMT
I like Tuncay and he's clearly a quality player, but I dodn't see what he's done in a Stoke shirt to become the God he has in some peoples' eyes. He's had some good games and some very poor ones, and surely that can't be ALL the manager's fault can it? Quite.
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Sept 16, 2010 17:44:06 GMT
With all the sitters he's missed is it any wonder he didn't even make the bench?. Fuller, Mama, Shawcross to name but a few who have done the same thing
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Sept 16, 2010 17:46:20 GMT
March4 mate, I'd like to answer that if I may Yes Tuncay walked down the tunnel after being subed but thats the way he is, he has publically stated (and backed by Pulis) that he gets frustrated as he feels he did not play well enough, that coupled with his Turkish temper (they are known for it) causes the actions he takes. Yes he got in his car and drove home before the match against Villa, did he know Pulis was going o turn up, probably not. He was given the night off, if your boss gave you a day off on full pay would you hang around for the duration of the shift and watch your workmates? I doubt it mate. We all have family lives to. Of course you can answer. I do expect a footballer to stay and watch his team mates; they are hardly over worked and the ethos of team togetherness is a vital element at any club. I actually found this action more disturbing than his tunnel antics. If I ask my employees to turn up at a corporate event, they can't all do the presentations, but I would be very annoyed if any slipped away and not gave moral support. You might argue, that Tuncay is a typical modern footballer, but I feel he is going beyond even these levels of behaviour. I dont his actions at all, just pointing out where I believe he is coming from. I still think he's a dam good football player though
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Post by march4 on Sept 16, 2010 17:47:43 GMT
Of course you can answer. I do expect a footballer to stay and watch his team mates; they are hardly over worked and the ethos of team togetherness is a vital element at any club. I actually found this action more disturbing than his tunnel antics. If I ask my employees to turn up at a corporate event, they can't all do the presentations, but I would be very annoyed if any slipped away and not gave moral support. You might argue, that Tuncay is a typical modern footballer, but I feel he is going beyond even these levels of behaviour. I dont his actions at all, just pointing out where I believe he is coming from. I still think he's a dam good football player though He's a very skillful footballer, just not effective and a little too self-centred for my liking.
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 16, 2010 17:48:14 GMT
The mystery is why we spent £5M on a player who was quite clearly totally unsuited to any of the roles in our rigid system of play.
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Post by StoKeith on Sept 16, 2010 17:49:35 GMT
The problem with our strike force last year was that there was never a settled system, so no-one really managed to shine (including Ricci). Have a look at the starts and sub appearances of all of our strikers last season in the Prem and you get an idea of what I mean:
Starts (subs)
Fuller.............22 (13)..........3 goals Sidibe............19 (5)............2 goals Tuncay..........13 (17)...........4 goals Beattie..........11 (11)...........2 goals Kitson............10 (8)............3 goals
Looking from a purely goals return perspective, Tuncay and Kitson were our best strikers! Sidibe has the highest starts:subs ratio, but we know his role isn't primarily goalscoring (whether it should be is another argument).
Personally, I feel Tuncay is very similar to Fuller in his flashes of brilliance and the fact that I feel we seem "more dangerous" going forward when one of them is on the field.
Ultimately, I agree with those that suggest Tuncay hasn't a long enough run in the team (he has the lowest starts:subs ratio) and the lack of continuity can only have negatively affected his performances. The lack of continuity probably affected our strikeforce in general.
Having said that, I can't see the situation changing as we've replaced Beattie and Kitson (and Sidibe until NY) with Gudjohnsen, Jones and Walters. A significant improvement in his competition. Funnily enough, I think he'll be happier being kept out of the team by the likes of Jones and Gudjohnsen, than Kitson and Sidibe.
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Post by tazi on Sept 16, 2010 17:49:42 GMT
With all the sitters he's missed is it any wonder he didn't even make the bench?. Fuller, Mama, Shawcross to name but a few who have done the same thing Yes but Tuncay brings nothing else to the table though and if he aint scoring even the simplest of tap ins then i'm sorry but that doesn't warrant even a place on the bench.
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Post by march4 on Sept 16, 2010 17:49:46 GMT
The mystery is why we spent £5M on a player who was quite clearly totally unsuited to any of the roles in our rigid system of play. Because he needed to get out of the Championship and TP felt that he would adapt his game.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Sept 16, 2010 17:53:41 GMT
The mystery is why we spent £5M on a player who was quite clearly totally unsuited to any of the roles in our rigid system of play. Because he needed to get out of the Championship and TP felt that he would adapt his game. Oh come on March - we all know you are indeed the secret leader of the Tuncay Cult - you just hide it very well
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Post by zeroprobe on Sept 16, 2010 17:54:18 GMT
Who was top scorer pre season?
He could certainly match anyone we have in midfield.
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Post by march4 on Sept 16, 2010 17:57:44 GMT
Because he needed to get out of the Championship and TP felt that he would adapt his game. Oh come on March - we all know you are indeed the secret leader of the Tuncay Cult - you just hide it very well I know, but it is so hard to be chief fan of Mama and Tuncay
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2010 17:59:08 GMT
Who was top scorer pre season? He could certainly match anyone we have in midfield. But we don't play with that type of central midfielder do we? We ask our midfielders to play deep.
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Sept 16, 2010 18:00:00 GMT
Fuller, Mama, Shawcross to name but a few who have done the same thing Yes but Tuncay brings nothing else to the table though Really?! The fact is before we bought in our new players he was seconds in front mentally than any other stoke player on the pitch. Hence he was always lumbered wating for others to catch up.
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Post by march4 on Sept 16, 2010 18:00:07 GMT
Who was top scorer pre season? He could certainly match anyone we have in midfield. But we don't play with that type of central midfielder do we? We ask our midfielders to play deep. 'Seek out and destroy' isn't Tuncay's natural game is it?
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