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Post by ohhgeorgieberry on May 10, 2010 19:52:52 GMT
cilla i am sure i see you get whacked by the filthit was by the start of the bridge 2 blokes then start fightin guess which one gets nicked
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Post by barndoorbanjo on May 10, 2010 20:04:59 GMT
I was parked on Salford Quays. On the walk back me and my two nephews (12 & 14) received verbal pelters. The young'n was in colours. It could have got nasty but chose to keep my head down and keep walking even though I wanted to lash out.
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Post by johnnypotter on May 10, 2010 20:09:50 GMT
The shit fans have been the same since the 70's ''safety in numbers''. They think they are hard when there are thousands of them together, but we know the truth, spineless without backup. To pick on a bloke with his little lad, only goes to justify why they are hated countrywide.
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Post by march4 on May 10, 2010 20:20:50 GMT
I thought we had seen an end to the indiscriminate attacks on normal fans wearing colours.
Don't forget that it was Shit fans in the 70's who started the hooligan problems that led to Heysel and the Hillsborough disaster.
The fear for me is what will happen at the Brit when we play them next season, because I remember what the situation was like when we played them at home in the 70's and 80's.
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Post by auricle on May 10, 2010 20:33:26 GMT
i saw a lot of trouble a manure fan started shouting and pushing some stokies and stupid twat of a woman plod on a horse came gallopng in and knocked m flying was nothing to even do with us It was her and another mounted colleague that saw off a manc that had a go at my daughter The walk up to Chester Road was hairy - just shut up and keep going; overheard a senior police officer saying "we've got nothing from here (Chester Rd) to the Metro (at Old Trafford)
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Post by bigcashprizes on May 10, 2010 20:53:34 GMT
Some people need to get into the real world on here, you were playing Man United at Old trafford for fucks sake, You took the piss out of 60 odd thousand for 90 Min's, they had just lost the title and were perhaps not in the mood to party in the streets with a few space cadets, any one that has ever been to old Trafford would know that when you exit the stadium you are mixed in with the Manc Lads and if they happen to miss you on the way out they all stand waiting on the corner by Lou's chippy so any one in red and white stripes is going to stand out, what did you expect them to do slap you all on the back and tell you what a good laugh you have given them cheering all 8 goals by their rivals and singing praise for there American Satan. Just a thought but was all this violence occurring after the 90 min whistle as you made your way discretely from the ground or was it 15 Min's after the whistle due to you staying behind to wind them nasty northern monkeys up even more on their lap of honor. Bring back the ID card that sorted the minority out......Oh no wait a min......... Cue the "its our previous reputation that caused it" replies. Well said Sir
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Post by pottertoon on May 10, 2010 20:59:54 GMT
Some people need to get into the real world on here, you were playing Man United at Old trafford for fucks sake, You took the piss out of 60 odd thousand for 90 Min's, they had just lost the title and were perhaps not in the mood to party in the streets with a few space cadets, any one that has ever been to old Trafford would know that when you exit the stadium you are mixed in with the Manc Lads and if they happen to miss you on the way out they all stand waiting on the corner by Lou's chippy so any one in red and white stripes is going to stand out, what did you expect them to do slap you all on the back and tell you what a good laugh you have given them cheering all 8 goals by their rivals and singing praise for there American Satan. Just a thought but was all this violence occurring after the 90 min whistle as you made your way discretely from the ground or was it 15 Min's after the whistle due to you staying behind to wind them nasty northern monkeys up even more on their lap of honor. Bring back the ID card that sorted the minority out......Oh no wait a min......... Cue the "its our previous reputation that caused it" replies. You cock! I'll pass your comments on to my 8 year old who by the sounds of it deserved to be spat at and called a Chelsea rent boy wanker!!! Yes they were pissed off and we did have banter throughout the game, but attacking and abusing kids shows they are scum.
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Post by mozzer on May 10, 2010 21:06:27 GMT
feel free to do so if you so wish.............
I live in the real world, do you??
You put him in that situation ... as I asked did you leave at the final whistle and did you leave discretely.
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Post by chinesedave on May 10, 2010 21:09:57 GMT
As much as I despise most Man Utd fans, Stoke's reputation definitely had a bearing on this. How many times have Stoke's firm caused havoc in the past in Manchester? Many, many times because I've seen it, even in the days of the old Third Division Stoke would stop off on the way back from places like Bury and Oldham and have a tear up... And waving that Chelsea flag was fucking pathetic...
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Post by essexstokie on May 10, 2010 21:10:57 GMT
I left discretely mozzer and still got started on and got abuse hurled at me. So your comments are rubbish
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Post by mozzer on May 10, 2010 21:13:54 GMT
final whistle tonbridge ??????? Still rubbish comments ??????
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Post by essexstokie on May 10, 2010 21:15:25 GMT
I left after the lap of honour, but what difference does it make.
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Post by StokieForever on May 10, 2010 21:17:07 GMT
mozzer it doesn't matter when anyone left the game, nothing permits that kind of behaviour no matter how 'wound up' the man united fans were, end of.
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Post by mozzer on May 10, 2010 21:17:15 GMT
Thought so Tunbridge, you just stopped to wish them success for next year no doubt. I am not trying to excuse the behavior if you read my post, but for gods sake do not go bleating about the behaviour when you put yourself in that position, you had the chance to leave on 90 mins but chose to stop and exit at exactly the same time as the Mancs, you chose to put yourself in that position.
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Post by mark71 on May 10, 2010 21:25:14 GMT
Mozzer has made some very good points. He's not saying what happened is right but it was to be expected.
The Stoke support had banter, took the piss, wound up the shit fans for 90 minutes. Out of 60,000 shit fans if only 2% of them wanted a fight that is a fair few.
Nobody is saying what happened is right but it is not a surprise some shit fans took offense. If this game was at the Brit and we had just got relegated this same thread would be on the red cafe with the same things said about Stoke fans.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on May 10, 2010 21:33:36 GMT
I left about 2 minutes after the final whistle (after our players had clapped us) - but I still got knocked to the ground by one of the thousands of Mancs who left at the same time as us. I don't think anyone is saying that it was anything other than a tiny minority who were violent - although a surprising number were angry with our singing!
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Post by kidsgrove4 on May 10, 2010 21:43:09 GMT
Putting it into context, it eneded as predictably as most would have imagined. We lost, Chelsea won, and Man United came second. I watched the game, and we took the piss with songs, and taunted the 'losers' before, during and after the game. We sang and made as much noise as we could during Sir Manure Knighted's speech at the end, and then sang songs about Chelsea to them on the concourse. I'm sorry to say, that had this been at Stoke, and say we'd just been relegated, it would have been ten times worse. We really did give it to them. As for heavy handed OB, well, it's a given, especially the GMP. I've been paddled by batons for Stoke and England, and fair play , some would have been deserved. But to hear of people getting pelted 3 or 4 times for just being stuck in the melee, is very wrong. A few bruises for your team you can take. But the kids being caught in the middle leaves a nasty taste in my mouth. See you at the Brit next year, Manky twats.
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Post by pottertoon on May 10, 2010 21:49:27 GMT
feel free to do so if you so wish............. I live in the real world, do you?? You put him in that situation ... as I asked did you leave at the final whistle and did you leave discretely. I do live the real world! Yes we did leave at the final whistle and we walked away minding our own business. As for the "you put him in that situation" comment, why shouldn't we be able to support out team away from home without getting threatened? We've been to 13 away games this season with no problems. Our only crime here was my lads stoke shirt!!! If the real world is full of scum manure fans who cannot take a bit of piss taking then it's a sad one in which we live.
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Post by WhitehillStoke on May 10, 2010 22:02:50 GMT
I thought we had seen an end to the indiscriminate attacks on normal fans wearing colours. Don't forget that it was Shit fans in the 70's who started the hooligan problems that led to Heysel and the Hillsborough disaster. The fear for me is what will happen at the Brit when we play them next season, because I remember what the situation was like when we played them at home in the 70's and 80's. And I thought that was Dave Kitson's fault?
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Post by bunnyscfc on May 10, 2010 22:20:52 GMT
this thread really hurts me, deeply.
Can't believe that less than 200 yards when I'm having beers and banter with some sound Mancunians all this is going on. Anyone who hits a bloke in a shirt or with a kid is a bellend. End of. No matter what shirt or club you follow.
But from what I've heard we had some tools there ourself yesterday. Eg. a United woman was tipped out of her wheelchair by Stoke fans outside afterwards.
Glass house and all that. If it's true (and I've been sent a pic showing her giving evidence to the police) I really do hang my head. I just wish the plums from both sides who see fit to hit scarfers, the disables etc would p*** off and leave the beautiful game well alone.
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Post by soicowboy2 on May 10, 2010 22:36:25 GMT
I left about 2 minutes after the final whistle (after our players had clapped us) - but I still got knocked to the ground by one of the thousands of Mancs who left at the same time as us. I don't think anyone is saying that it was anything other than a tiny minority who were violent - although a surprising number were angry with our singing! Sorry to hear about that Fornie but have had the option to see the replay on CCTV and have come to the conclusion that you dived Seriously though- shows what a cowardly bunch they are.
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Post by hanibal7 on May 11, 2010 2:25:35 GMT
A lesson to all the idiots of scfc
If you insist on slapping a few mancs next season dont do what they have done,attacking innocent people.Get their hard core if you are man enough
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Post by PolPotter on May 11, 2010 5:50:23 GMT
www.redcafe.net/f7/stoke-supporters-295550/I can see the next meeting being very interesting. I also read the thread from our game against them in Nov 2008. Some of the songs we sing are terrible. The one about Harry Roberts and where we show support for another team to upset Man Utd supporters is poor stuff. It just sounds like we're really scraping the barrel.
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Post by bostedclog on May 11, 2010 6:09:57 GMT
Some people need to get into the real world on here, you were playing Man United at Old trafford for fucks sake, You took the piss out of 60 odd thousand for 90 Min's, they had just lost the title and were perhaps not in the mood to party in the streets with a few space cadets, any one that has ever been to old Trafford would know that when you exit the stadium you are mixed in with the Manc Lads and if they happen to miss you on the way out they all stand waiting on the corner by Lou's chippy so any one in red and white stripes is going to stand out, what did you expect them to do slap you all on the back and tell you what a good laugh you have given them cheering all 8 goals by their rivals and singing praise for there American Satan. Just a thought but was all this violence occurring after the 90 min whistle as you made your way discretely from the ground or was it 15 Min's after the whistle due to you staying behind to wind them nasty northern monkeys up even more on their lap of honor. Bring back the ID card that sorted the minority out......Oh no wait a min......... Cue the "its our previous reputation that caused it" replies. I totally agree with the first paragraph.Stoke hoolies are out of their depth when the big clubs turn out.The only trouble is that innocent Stokies get it as well..As for manure not turning up at away games .Get real, they always have had and always will have a large hooligan problem home and away. There are some grounds you can gob off at and some you cant .Man u you cant unless you are with a well organised game crew.Try it at West ham and take the piss for 90 mins and see what happens afterwards.. Violence breeds violence..
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Post by knype on May 11, 2010 7:22:22 GMT
Some people need to get into the real world on here, you were playing Man United at Old trafford for fucks sake, You took the piss out of 60 odd thousand for 90 Min's, they had just lost the title and were perhaps not in the mood to party in the streets with a few space cadets, any one that has ever been to old Trafford would know that when you exit the stadium you are mixed in with the Manc Lads and if they happen to miss you on the way out they all stand waiting on the corner by Lou's chippy so any one in red and white stripes is going to stand out, what did you expect them to do slap you all on the back and tell you what a good laugh you have given them cheering all 8 goals by their rivals and singing praise for there American Satan. Just a thought but was all this violence occurring after the 90 min whistle as you made your way discretely from the ground or was it 15 Min's after the whistle due to you staying behind to wind them nasty northern monkeys up even more on their lap of honor. Bring back the ID card that sorted the minority out......Oh no wait a min......... Cue the "its our previous reputation that caused it" replies. I totally agree with the first paragraph.Stoke hoolies are out of their depth when the big clubs turn out.The only trouble is that innocent Stokies get it as well..As for manure not turning up at away games .Get real, they always have had and always will have a large hooligan problem home and away. There are some grounds you can gob off at and some you cant .Man you you cant unless you are with a well organised game crew.Try it at West ham and take the piss for 90 mins and see what happens afterwards.. Violence breeds violence.. Bosted, think that you may be wrong! Were the people who got hurt Stoke Hoolies?
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Post by bostedclog on May 11, 2010 7:36:43 GMT
Dont know Knype .What I was saying is innocent Stokies get hit because of Stokes hooligans.At home we give it all the big un but when Stoke go away they cry when we get it back.Ive seen many away fans this season and last get hit in unprovoked attacks down Stoke.So going to Old Trafford what do people expect?.Wrong but true..
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Post by alanhopkin2010 on May 11, 2010 9:51:00 GMT
me and my 6 year old son were at the game we had a ace time till after the match a united fan called my little lad a prick, luckly i was with a few stokies so just kept me head down. It was stupid how the let the united fans mix in with the stokies like they did. The sercurity at the brit is good you don't even get chance get to any away fans because they are all fenced in, and at least they feel safe don't think i will be going the old trafford again after hearing about all these posts and if i did i would want stoke to sort some proper protection, instead of walking into a lions den
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Post by baddo on May 11, 2010 10:27:52 GMT
What saddens me about this whole series of events is that the United fans seemed to pick on and attempt to intimidate small children along with the parents/guardians of those with the children.
I hope we can not stoop to the level at which those supporters behaved to a good number of the travelling Stoke supporters on Sunday.
Let United have the reputation of being bullies picking on children etc. Manchester City supporters have already picked up on this thread on blue moon and they do not appear to be surprised of United actions.
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Post by RINGO STARR on May 11, 2010 10:40:39 GMT
Some middle aged man calling a child an obscene name is just a method to the madness of the middle aged man trying to get the father/guardian to retaliate.
Anything then captured on CCTV, or spotted by stewards/GMP means the innocent parties get caught.
Its an old dirty Mancunian trick that they do week in/week out. Due to the fact that it costs £40 odd quid to get a ticket for away fans at Old Trafford and twinned with the fact that its bloody difficult to get one aswell usually, most trouble that occurs is within the city centre. This is where the Stoke hooligans would have been and where the main trouble organized or not would have taken place. I believe on this occassion the place it kicked off was in Wetherspoons.
Stoke City have always taken good numbers to Manchester whether it be at Citeh or a 3rd division game at Wigan. Alot of the trouble with the GMP and the Manchester City/Utd boys is that Stoke have always been there in numbers throughout the years. Wigan away being the big one and teh England/Greece game when the stoke boys travelled in large numbers and caused some mayhem.
Man United have always travelled away from home with a large number of nutters on board and there will definitely be a tasty atmosphere next season at both grounds. The people who watch United away from home are completly different to the Prawn sarnie brigrade at Old Trafford. Thats why they're in good voice away from home and its also no surprise that nearly evey year its Man United fans who top the number of arrests in a season (not Millwall, Stoke, Leeds, Cardiff) as most people assume.
I just hope that for once we can turn up on the pitch and channel our energies into something positive as for the four games we've played against them we've only turned up once. It'd be nice for them to get battered in teh right way (on the pitch)
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Post by Yorkshirepotter on May 11, 2010 10:51:37 GMT
www.redcafe.net/f7/stoke-supporters-295550/I can see the next meeting being very interesting. I also read the thread from our game against them in Nov 2008. Some of the songs we sing are terrible. The one about Harry Roberts and where we show support for another team to upset Man Utd supporters is poor stuff. It just sounds like we're really scraping the barrel. [/quo what a bunch of tossers on there. So basically because you dont like what other fans are singing you can tat fans and threaten little kids? They really are a scummy set of lowlifes. This is the same supporters that sing about Hillsbrough and have shit like '96 not enough' on their shirts??? aids to the lot of em!
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